OT discussion from LAP3 Turbo R&D thread

[WillieP82]

Agree we wont know if it blows up.....i dont think it has been tested for longevity but i personally dont want to find out ..I will keep my baby snails and 400 whp lol..... Maybe when i pay the car off lol

From what I know JB4 was on the only Stinger to go BOOM so yeah and they were not even FBO. LMFAO

 

[brancky3]

From what I know JB4 was on the only Stinger to go BOOM so yeah and they were not even FBO. LMFAO

That's what happens when you're a dumbass and put a tune on a car with turbos that are failing on the stock tune. That failure has nothing to do with a tune as it was already broken before the tune was put on.

 

[Angel]

That's what happens when you're a dumbass and put a tune on a car with turbos that are failing on the stock tune. That failure has nothing to do with a tune as it was already broken before the tune was put on.

May I ask how you know this information ?? We’re you involved in the situation ?

From what I know JB4 was on the only Stinger to go BOOM so yeah and they were not even FBO. LMFAO

So again what happened lol .... excuse me for my ignorance I need more details ? So a JB4 stinger went boom ?

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

May I ask how you know this information ?? We’re you involved in the situation ?


So again what happened lol .... excuse me for my ignorance I need more details ? So a JB4 stinger went boom ?

No one really knows. The dude blew his engine. He posted on FB, but then got worried that the dealer would find out about the JB4 so he mass deleted everything. By everything I mean EVERYTHING lol. Felt like Hillary Clinton and the email scandal watching this all go down HAHA.

Sorry for the useless info in your thread David. Just felt I should respond

 

[Doel]

From what I know JB4 was on the only Stinger to go BOOM so yeah and they were not even FBO. LMFAO

the turbo failed which killed the engine, very unlikely a tune killed the turbo. From what I've read, it sounded like a factory defect in the turbo, especially since it happened in the first 1k miles. The only way the JB4 would be to blame is if it was running waayyyy too much boost or some how caused an overboost issue. It would have to get up to ridiculous pressures to cause sudden failure though, typically overboost causes slow failure.

 

[Angel]

the turbo failed which killed the engine, very unlikely a tune killed the turbo. From what I've read, it sounded like a factory defect in the turbo, especially since it happened in the first 1k miles. The only way the JB4 would be to blame is if it was running waayyyy too much boost or some how caused an overboost issue. It would have to get up to ridiculous pressures to cause sudden failure though, typically overboost causes slow failure.

It’s all speculation seems like at this point ... the fact that it had a JB4 on when it went boom is scary .....regardless what caused it , if it was a combination of a bad turbo with a the JB4 causing extra stress/pressure on the turbo to make it fail sooner rather than later ..... but wow that’s just scary I can’t imagine going to the dealer especially when you know you had a JB4 on it .... I would not want to be that guy.....the worst part is that he is on his own he won’t be able to prove what the hell did the damage .....

 

[brancky3]

Y'all should probably stop talking about JB4 and stock turbos on this thread... this is specific to Lap3 and their turbo upgrades. This forum gets so off-topic so quickly

 

[Doel]

Y'all should probably stop talking about JB4 and stock turbos on this thread... this is specific to Lap3 and their turbo upgrades. This forum gets so off-topic so quickly

Discussing engine failure and tunes is definitely on topic for this thread. We're all interested in potential engine failures from modding, especially when you get into the realm of new turbos. We all want to see if this car blows up.

 

[WillieP82]

the turbo failed which killed the engine, very unlikely a tune killed the turbo. From what I've read, it sounded like a factory defect in the turbo, especially since it happened in the first 1k miles. The only way the JB4 would be to blame is if it was running waayyyy too much boost or some how caused an overboost issue. It would have to get up to ridiculous pressures to cause sudden failure though, typically overboost causes slow failure.

Oh so they are the ONLY one with a "factory turbo defect"??? Yeah okay, if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Lap3 is pushing a lot of stock turbo Stingers and ZERO went POP.

 

[brancky3]

Oh so they are the ONLY one with a "factory turbo defect"??? Yeah okay, if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Lap3 is pushing a lot of stock turbo Stingers and ZERO went POP.

The guy who put the tune on clearly stated that his turbo was extremely loud (dentist drill sound) before the tune even went on

If any tune is going to test the limit of the stock turbos it's Lap3, and everything has been great so far from what I've read. Lap3 is pushing ~4-6psi more than JB4 is

 

[Kamauxx]

Oh so they are the ONLY one with a "factory turbo defect"??? Yeah okay, if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Lap3 is pushing a lot of stock turbo Stingers and ZERO went POP.

Actually, there are two other turbo failures I'm aware of.

One was on a completely stock vehicle and the dealership caught it before placing the car up for sale. They pulled the engine, took pics, and repaired it. The pics were posted here a long time ago.

The other, unfortunately was also running a JB4. The dealership determined the failure was due to a factory defect, however. It was repaired under warranty.

 

[Doel]

Oh so they are the ONLY one with a "factory turbo defect"??? Yeah okay, if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Lap3 is pushing a lot of stock turbo Stingers and ZERO went POP.

please tell me exactly what in the JB4 tuning caused the turbo to fail then. Factory parts aren't perfect, sometimes they fail on their own before they should.

 

[WillieP82]

please tell me exactly what in the JB4 tuning caused the turbo to fail then. Factory parts aren't perfect, sometimes they fail on their own before they should.

Extremely convenient that Lap3 pushes the shit out of them and not one has failed yet TWO with JB4 had "turbo" failure. All I am saying is coincidents don't exist.

 

[Kamauxx]

All I am saying is coincidents don't exist.

 

[Terry@BMS]

please tell me exactly what in the JB4 tuning caused the turbo to fail then. Factory parts aren't perfect, sometimes they fail on their own before they should.

Our office is next door to a Kia dealership. On the way in I normally see one or two Stingers sitting in their service bay. I doubt many are modified. Stuff breaks on these cars regularly and will continue breaking even if modified or tuned. Tuning your car does not create a magical protective bubble around it protecting it from any future mechanical failure.

Regarding the factory Stinger turbos out of over 600 now Stingers we've tuned I've still only heard of two turbo failures, both with similar symptoms. Loud turbo whine from one turbo especially when cold. One of those guys I know didn't take it in, added a JB4, did a short pull on map2, and his turbo gave out. Apparently in the chaos that ensured getting it to the dealer so much oil came out the dealer or someone let the engine run without oil and it developed a rod knock. Not sure what happened with that situation after as that was the last update I got.

Anyway we offer various maps on the JB4 for a reason, so pick your risk level. More boost generally equals more risk, but also a lot more fun.

In terms of how durable the motor is at 600whp power levels we're hoping it's solid as long as the tuning is good. We'll see as more people add these large aftermarket turbo kits and push things. Normally these power levels are where the extra JB4 safety systems we can implement start to shine.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

nicely done Mod (whoever you maybe lol). Nice of you to move this out of the LAP3 Thread but also keep the content!

 

[eflyguy]

 

[eflyguy]

It's easy to follow when you're "engaged" in a discussion but look at it from the perspective of people who are not - either today, or at some point in the future. That's why it's important to keep threads with valuable information on-topic, and also move valuable off-topic discussion to their own thread to preserve it.

It's not easy to "make that call"..

Sometimes, I feel like I should have just signed up to be a volunteer weatherman...

 

[Terry@BMS]

I like the moderation approach!

 

[brancky3]

Extremely convenient that Lap3 pushes the shit out of them and not one has failed yet TWO with JB4 had "turbo" failure. All I am saying is coincidents don't exist.

Lol what are you implying that 1 tuner did to 'blow turbos' that another tuner isn't doing? Do you even know what different factors can cause a turbo failure?