Naturally Aspirated vs Turbo

[CaliSting]

With the car stock, slap it in Sport mode and turn of Stability/Traction Control. Thats about the limit of getting rid of any throttle control nannies you can do. The car will still step in, but only at 9/10 of the limit of driving when your getting a little 'too' sideways.

Unless you go full ECU flash, you won't remove the throttle control from the ECU at all, and honestly, unless your going full on track mode why would you? The car does a pretty dam good job for launching, but it will hold back a little. The best explanation most of us have been able to figure out is that it saves the tranny and differentials (AWD) from multiple hard launch control launches.

Once it's broken in, put it in Sport mode and disable traction/stability control. Stand on the brakes, watch for 'Launch Control Active' to pop up on the dash. Floor the gas and then let off the brake. You'll never utter the words 'lag' again for the Stinger and you'll have a perma-grin that I still have almost a year into owning mine.

I’d agree and disagree. If you are just interested in launch controlled starts sure it works ok. However Dodge does better job giving you all power whenever you want it. Also all nannies really make response in Stinger awful when in turns. Great for average driver who would get into trouble with power these cars make at low rpm but infuriating for us who know how to drive. If I had held onto my car I would have been looking for reflash that gave me more control of throttle . Might mean disabling accelerometers . In other cars that use similar trimming I have eliminated accelerometer to gain control of throttle.

 

[TwinSnails]

I’d agree and disagree. If you are just interested in launch controlled starts sure it works ok. However Dodge does better job giving you all power whenever you want it. Also all nannies really make response in Stinger awful when in turns. Great for average driver who would get into trouble with power these cars make at low rpm but infuriating for us who know how to drive. If I had held onto my car I would have been looking for reflash that gave me more control of throttle . Might mean disabling accelerometers . In other cars that use similar trimming I have eliminated accelerometer to gain control of throttle.

Hmmm, in sport mode, and using the paddles to come through and out of turns I can hang the rear out until it bites or dig out of the curve rolling through the pedal.... I’d say driven hard in these settings you can overcome 95% of all that. Will it intervene... slightly.

 

[Eyestinger]

So I put the car in sport mode, turned off the traction control and then put it in manual mode locked in first gear at 10mph. When I tap the throttle It responds slightly and then kicks in. But still a lag.

If anyone here has ever had a naturally-aspirated V8 or Dodge Challenger or something similar, you know that when you tap the throttle on and off you can basically throw the head back all of your passengers almost like a seesaw.

Now, I know that once the turbo kicks in on the Stinger, It will leave the Challenger in the dust. But that goes back to my original question. How do I get that same snappy performance to the throttle? Is it an intake? Is it the jb4? Is it exhaust?

You can't really understand what I'm talking about unless you've experienced both and have something to compare it to. Any thoughts?

 

[Kamauxx]

You can't really understand what I'm talking about unless you've experienced both and have something to compare it to. Any thoughts?

I've owned a NA V8 or two. Specifically a GTO, 3 Camaros, and a Z06. I still have no idea what the issue is you're experiencing.

 

[Eyestinger]

I've owned a NA V8 or two. Specifically a GTO, 3 Camaros, and a Z06. I still have no idea what the issue is you're experiencing.

Do me a favor, go out for a small drive. Put the car in first gear, put it in sport mode, and take off the traction control. Drive at about 10 to 15 miles an hour stuck in first gear. Then tap the throttle again, again and again. Does your head bob back and forth?

 

[ScottM]

Pedal Commander, Racechip XLR, etc.??? Same power, but quicker response (relatively speaking).

 

[Eyestinger]

https://www.pedalcommander.com/prod...tor=3.3L+V6+twin+turbo&v=7516fd43adaa#reviews

I think I may have just found the solution that I'm looking for....

 

[Eyestinger]

And then there's this one....NEW! BMS Pedal Tuner - BurgerTuning.com

 

[Angel]

So I put the car in sport mode, turned off the traction control and then put it in manual mode locked in first gear at 10mph. When I tap the throttle It responds slightly and then kicks in. But still a lag.

If anyone here has ever had a naturally-aspirated V8 or Dodge Challenger or something similar, you know that when you tap the throttle on and off you can basically throw the head back all of your passengers almost like a seesaw.

Now, I know that once the turbo kicks in on the Stinger, It will leave the Challenger in the dust. But that goes back to my original question. How do I get that same snappy performance to the throttle? Is it an intake? Is it the jb4? Is it exhaust?

You can't really understand what I'm talking about unless you've experienced both and have something to compare it to. Any thoughts?

Well I understand what you mean ... I own a Lexus ISF which has a V8 .... honestly what your talking about will only be overcomed by an ecu tune because the ecu will hold the car back ... but modding this car will make it faster and you will feel it .... if you want to open up your throttle response get DYI intakes because there cheap for under 100 bucks and the ssr down pipes .... if that doesn’t help then get and ecu tune or piggyback and turn up the boost .... but honestly I understand where your coming hard to compare to that V8 feel ... especially a Dodge Challenger which there loose lol ...

 

[Eyestinger]

Well I understand what you mean ... I own a Lexus ISF which has a V8 .... honestly what your talking about will only be overcomed by an ecu tune because the ecu will hold the car back ... but modding this car will make it faster and you will feel it .... if you want to open up your throttle response get DYI intakes because there cheap for under 100 bucks and the ssr down pipes .... if that doesn’t help then get and ecu tune or piggyback and turn up the boost .... but honestly I understand where your coming hard to compare to that V8 feel ... especially a Dodge Challenger which there loose lol ...

Okay thank you! So I'm not crazy!

Yes, it might be that the Challenger is super loose, as All American cars are put together pretty sloppily. But it's just kind of what I'm used to and I was just curious if it's possible to get something that feels close to it. I'm thinking a throttle response controller might be the ticket. But I'm also wondering about long-term issues there. Any thoughts?

 

[Doel]

Okay thank you! So I'm not crazy!

Yes, it might be that the Challenger is super loose, as All American cars are put together pretty sloppily. But it's just kind of what I'm used to and I was just curious if it's possible to get something that feels close to it. I'm thinking a throttle response controller might be the ticket. But I'm also wondering about long-term issues there. Any thoughts?

does it do it in second gear as well? Like I said earlier, all turbo cars have at least a little turbo lag. Only way around that is to install a supercharger or electric motor as well

 

[Eyestinger]

does it do it in second gear as well? Like I said earlier, all turbo cars have at least a little turbo lag. Only way around that is to install a supercharger or electric motor as well

Yep, second gear as well. But I'm not sure if you've seen it I think the problem might be solved with a throttle response controller. Have you ever used one? If you look up some videos online to see a huge difference in throttle response. I think that may solve the issue.

Have you personally used one?

 

[Doel]

Yep, second gear as well. But I'm not sure if you've seen it I think the problem might be solved with a throttle response controller. Have you ever used one? If you look up some videos online to see a huge difference in throttle response. I think that may solve the issue.

Have you personally used one?

A throttle controller won't solve turbo lag, if that's what you're feeling. It's just part of owning a turbo car.

 

[Angel]

Okay thank you! So I'm not crazy!

Yes, it might be that the Challenger is super loose, as All American cars are put together pretty sloppily. But it's just kind of what I'm used to and I was just curious if it's possible to get something that feels close to it. I'm thinking a throttle response controller might be the ticket. But I'm also wondering about long-term issues there. Any thoughts?

Your not crazy lol....Dont waste your money on BMS pedal, use that towards something else man....buy down pipes, intake or a different mod. Just get used to the fact that the Stinger will be a different feel than a V8 sports car.....Many on this forums have completely different taste on mods and opinions so my advice is read and search on this forum, search the internet and get as much info as possible.