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MY19 Tyres

Just a little update to wrap this one up. I've had my tyres changed over and I also now have a spare key that works. I am a happy camper :)
Good job, you must be totally satisfied with that result & service.
 
Yup, so much so that I went and placed an order for another car for my daughter. Not a stinger though, I could only afford 1 of those LOL
 
Yup, so much so that I went and placed an order for another car for my daughter. Not a stinger though, I could only afford 1 of those LOL
What did you order?
 
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The new model or the run out, I bought my wife White Cerato sport last year as well.
 
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Well that speaks volumes for the way your dealer treated you, they sorted out your issues, made you a happy customer so much so you bought another car, a win for all.
 
Awesome. If you speak to the sales guy again... Get him to point out where your "puddle" lamps should be...

Hi ADSL,

Sorry for the late response, as it took me a while to get a half reasonable answer for the puddle lamps. Here is what I could gather from around the web about what a puddle light is :

When you unlock or open your door the puddle lights illuminate the ground by your vehicle to warn you of a puddle you might inadvertently step in.

This is also what the dealer told me when I rang him after I got home. As a result I couldn't think of an argument that sounded reasonable as he told me that the puddle lamps were the ones under the mirrors. As that is exactly what they do, so by definition they are puddle lamps. I left it at that.

Apparently there is an official kit for the lamps under the car, but I don't think they are available here.
 
Hi ADSL,

Sorry for the late response, as it took me a while to get a half reasonable answer for the puddle lamps. Here is what I could gather from around the web about what a puddle light is :

When you unlock or open your door the puddle lights illuminate the ground by your vehicle to warn you of a puddle you might inadvertently step in.

This is also what the dealer told me when I rang him after I got home. As a result I couldn't think of an argument that sounded reasonable as he told me that the puddle lamps were the ones under the mirrors. As that is exactly what they do, so by definition they are puddle lamps. I left it at that.

Apparently there is an official kit for the lamps under the car, but I don't think they are available here.

That was the same response I got from my car broker and waiting for confirmation from KIA. The car broker mentioned that the os kit is different in respect to what "puddle lights" are. So far it seems that the Australian "puddle lamps" are actually USA "welcome lights".

I think it's actually illegal to illuminate the underside of a vehicle in Australia but I can't remember where I read that... Or maybe that was me trying use blue lights underneath my previous car... Need to confirm that statement...

Glad to read that you're getting the spec stated by KIA.
 
That was the same response I got from my car broker and waiting for confirmation from KIA. The car broker mentioned that the os kit is different in respect to what "puddle lights" are. So far it seems that the Australian "puddle lamps" are actually USA "welcome lights".

I think it's actually illegal to illuminate the underside of a vehicle in Australia but I can't remember where I read that... Or maybe that was me trying use blue lights underneath my previous car... Need to confirm that statement...

Glad to read that you're getting the spec stated by KIA.

I asked around a bit more about lights under cars. The consensus seems to be that the cops will certainly give you a ticket for driving with lights on under your car. Having said that, puddle lamps should only come on while your entering or exiting your vehicle, and off while your driving. So I don't see why they would be illegal. As I can't seem to find anything written to confirm it, take that with a grain of salt. I doubt the cops will stop and give you a ticket though if your parked with lights on briefly while you enter/exit your vehicle.
 
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Got a response from KIA. The puddle lamps are welcome lights so no puddle lights available for MY19 under the driver and passenger door wells.

Still very happy so far.
 
Got a response from KIA. The puddle lamps are welcome lights so no puddle lights available for MY19 under the driver and passenger door wells.

Still very happy so far.
Perhaps Kia could give an explanation as to why puddle lights and welcome lights are available on the US model.
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Perhaps Kia could give an explanation as to why puddle lights and welcome lights are available on the US model.
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I'll be checking MY19 models over the next 10 months and if I find that they have the US version of puddle lights then I'll pick up this discussion with them and the dealer again.

BTW the words "puddle lamps" can also be known as "welcome lights" as I was told on the phone.

The US version of the Stinger "puddle lamps" are not same description used by the AU version of the Stinger "welcome lights" which project from under the mirror to the ground.

The AU Stinger manual does not have puddle lamps reference listed either but only reference to welcome lights on page 4-139.
 
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I'll be checking MY19 models over the next 10 months and if I find that they have the US version of puddle lights then I'll pick up this discussion with them and the dealer again.

BTW the words "puddle lamps" can also be known as "welcome lights" as I was told on the phone.

The US version of the Stinger "puddle lamps" are not same description used by the AU version of the Stinger "welcome lights" which project from under the mirror to the ground.

The AU Stinger manual does not have puddle lamps reference listed either but only reference to welcome lights on page 4-139.
They’re two completely different things and they’ve told you “can be known as” to feed you a load of bs and get you to go away. If they don’t want to refer to them as puddle lamps then they shouldn’t have put it in the literature for the MY19 Au model the MY18 only referred to welcome lights and nobody in Aus was any the wiser until our US friends posted about puddle lights on the forum. Kia Au have brought this on themselves and are now trying to backpedal by using marketing double speak and bs after realising their mistake.
 
I still have the MY18 brochure the dealer gave me in May this year. The print date is Sept 2017 and "puddle lamps" is mentioned for all 3.3L models.
 
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I still have the MY18 brochure the dealer gave me in May this year. The print date is Sept 2017 and "puddle lamps" is mentioned for all 3.3L models.

The problem is, whatever wording Kia decides to use. Puddle lamps seems to be accepted as :

When you unlock or open your door the puddle lights illuminate the ground by your vehicle to warn you of a puddle you might inadvertently step in.

That is exactly what the lights under the mirror do. They can argue that that is your puddle lamps and can probably get away with saying that welcome lights and puddle lamps wording used was an editorial oversight and get away with it.

The funny thing is, the Commodores we used to buy here, manufactured here, shipped to the US had more kit than we did here and no one screamed blue murder on that one.
 
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I agree I have the same Sept.17 Brochure & it says puddle lamps.
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I agree I have the same Sept.17 Brochure & it says puddle lamps.
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Because the entry for puddle lamps is lumped in with all the other wing mirror features they would probably argue that they are referring to what we are now calling welcome lights. And honestly I think that’s the case. If it was say, entry number 3 directly below 2 where they are listing bumper, fender and side moulding features it would look more like they were referring to under body lights.
 
In the end call them what you like, courtesy/welcome/puddle lights, it all serves the same function to me, you can see at night & also shows what’s on the ground around the car, I don’t care what there called, this is the first car I’ve owned with it & it serves a multitude of purposes for me, I’m just happy the car actually has it.
Way off topic now, sorry all.
 
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