Drag/Acceleration Mods to improve ¼ mile times and unofficial track thread

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Should be possible. With the right weather I think 11.3s are possible on the JB4 end with bolt on mods. Right now even the current record of 11.59 was set using heavy stock rims and ~2500' DA. Imagine -1000' DA and RPF1s all around!

Yep. I need some lighter and smaller wheels. And I am counting down the days until we start getting DA that’s not quadruple digits.

 

[Doel]

LOL......

The one I am getting has low miles and no mods and was babied by the owner. I won't be going crazy on the car since it already runs low 11's stock.

The 2010s aren't that fast, you're thinking of the newer ones. That one stock should be a mid/high 11 car with good conditions. The top Stingers here would probably beat a stock 2010 GTR.

Of course they easily get into the high 10s with just a tune and bolt ons. My cousin had one with 800 WHP, launched like a bat out of hell. He eventually sold it because it just wasn't practical.

 

[Angel]

The 2010s aren't that fast, you're thinking of the newer ones. That one stock should be a mid/high 11 car with good conditions. The top Stingers here would probably beat a stock 2010 GTR.

Of course they easily get into the high 10s with just a tune and bolt ons. My cousin had one with 800 WHP, launched like a bat out of hell. He eventually sold it because it just wasn't practical.

There definitely not as practical like the Stinger hence the reason why I fell in love with the Stinger for its practicality and hatchback. I love hatchbacks lol.

As far as performance the top Stinger could possibly beat it lol.... but that is the hybrid turbo, wmi , ecu tune , jb4 and the whole kitchen to just run an 11.5 lol.

Even my Stinger I am sure it would give a run for its money on a 1/4 mile race. The GTR with just Intake/exhaust and E85 tune would shred the Stinger to bits. I stay away from comparing modified cars from stock cars.

Either way I have love and respect for the Stinger. The Stinger truly is an amazing car! It’s beautiful, it’s practical, and it performs good. I know I will end up buying another one next year when the value goes to shit because of the GTS.

Hopefully by then there will be more big turbo kits and ecu tunes.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I'm going to go on a bit of a rant here because I hear this all the time so please forgive me, "it's a Kia, you're going to get massive depreciation!" I've been checking out other similar cars and their depreciation looks to be just as bad as the Stinger or far worse from a dollar perspective. Take the Infiniti RS400, MSRP is around $55k for RWD, those suckers are going for mid to low 30s with under 15k miles and a 2018 model. Audi S5, MSRP is around $60-65k, they're going for mid to low 40s with under 15k miles and a 2018. Let's try an SUV, BMW X5 xDrive50I, MSRP $80-85K, they're going for mid 50s under 15k miles and a 2018, that's roughly THIRTY THOUSAND dollars in ONE year.

Depreciation on any new vehicle is garbage unless you have some kind of rare and highly sought after model. I paid 37k for my new GT1 last year, 10k miles on it now, looks like my car at the lowest prices on autotrader is going for mid 30s still, pretty damn good in the depreciation department I would say. As long as you get a decent deal when buying new, which everyone should be at this point, you shouldn't take much of a loss in the first year or two.

Every car takes a big hit through the first year. Its what happens at year 3-5 thats the tale we want to know. Im assuming it wont be good though, just based on what we see already.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

The 2010s aren't that fast, you're thinking of the newer ones. That one stock should be a mid/high 11 car with good conditions. The top Stingers here would probably beat a stock 2010 GTR.

Of course they easily get into the high 10s with just a tune and bolt ons. My cousin had one with 800 WHP, launched like a bat out of hell. He eventually sold it because it just wasn't practical.

I had a 2010 GT-R. With intakes, exhaust, injectors and a tune, I managed a 10.56 @ 130 mph (with using the far from most aggressive launch control software available at the time-1.6 sec 60 ft. time)). 545 HP at the wheels with a 0-60 in 2.7 secs. A few more minor bolt-on options that I could have done (another 30 WHP), and the most aggressive launch software would have likely put me in the 10.3 range according to the people in the know. A friend who was the track pro at our local track (road course) and who had a GT-R with an 800 HP Switzer kit, drove my car at the track and according to him, the difference in acceleration was really minor. If that isn't fast, then I don't know what is.

My Stinger Limited AWD is fast, but really, can't hold water to my GT-R even in stock trim. They don't call it Godzilla-King of the Monsters for no reason!

 

[Doel]

I had a 2010 GT-R. With intakes, exhaust, injectors and a tune, I managed a 10.56 @ 130 mph (with using the far from most aggressive launch control software available at the time-1.6 sec 60 ft. time)). 545 HP at the wheels with a 0-60 in 2.7 secs. A few more minor bolt-on options that I could have done (another 30 WHP), and the most aggressive launch software would have likely put me in the 10.3 range according to the people in the know. A friend who was the track pro at our local track (road course) and who had a GT-R with an 800 HP Switzer kit, drove my car at the track and according to him, the difference in acceleration was really minor. If that isn't fast, then I don't know what is.

My Stinger Limited AWD is fast, but really, can't hold water to my GT-R even in stock trim. They don't call it Godzilla-King of the Monsters for no reason!

I've driven and riden in a few of them, on the drag strip and road tracks, I never said they weren't fast. All I said was the fastest Stingers on here are faster than a STOCK 2010 GTR, those are facts. I also said a tuned and FBO GTR was in the 10s, so you don't have to explain to me how fast yours was, I'm fully aware, I've gone down the track in the mid 9s as a passenger in one. I didn't suggest one was better than the other, I'm strictly comparing times. One is a fast daily driver GT and the other is potentially a very fast and expensive sports car, very different cars with different purposes.

 

[Jonathan Lasich]

I've driven and riden in a few of them, on the drag strip and road tracks, I never said they weren't fast. All I said was the fastest Stingers on here are faster than a STOCK 2010 GTR, those are facts. I also said a tuned and FBO GTR was in the 10s, so you don't have to explain to me how fast yours was, I'm fully aware, I've gone down the track in the mid 9s as a passenger in one. I didn't suggest one was better than the other, I'm strictly comparing times. One is a fast daily driver GT and the other is potentially a very fast and expensive sports car, very different cars with different purposes.

Exactly! Agree wholeheartedly!

Stinger is a great all around daily driver with tons of "bells and whistles", impressive performance especially for the price. GT-R is a way more focused sports car, faster yes, but WAY less practical and at over twice the cost! Today, if I had to choose between the two, it would be the Stinger any day, and twice on Sunday.

 

[Manaz]

I am aware of at least on ECU tuner claiming to have mapped the entire OEM ECU and has, amongst other things:

He's tuned two cars for me before the Stinger (and done wonders), has done tunes for "factory supported" vehicles in numerous motorsport categories internationally, tuning for road cars on behalf of manufacturers, I've got no reason to disbelieve his claims. I will absolutely be having his tune put on my car as soon as it arrives.

Latest comments are that the tuner is getting about a 20% increase over stock power levels on RON98 with no mods. 300hp at the wheels as a stock benchmark, so that's 360whp.

With mods (intake, exhaust, e85), he is seeing 500whp.

 

[Talloneus Khan]

Latest comments are that the tuner is getting about a 20% increase over stock power levels on RON98 with no mods. 300hp at the wheels as a stock benchmark, so that's 360whp.

With mods (intake, exhaust, e85), he is seeing 500whp.

If thats the case holy cow! So much potential for this car with good ecu tuning. Reading this, is what makes being a early adopter of this platform so exciting!

Cant wait to see where everything ends up power wise, hopefully without anyone blowing up needlessly

 

[xot1]

If thats the case holy cow! So much potential for this car with good ecu tuning. Reading this, is what makes being a early adopter of this platform so exciting!

Cant wait to see where everything ends up power wise, hopefully without anyone blowing up needlessly

No one blew the engine in the US yet?

 

[Talloneus Khan]

No one blew the engine in the US yet?

Aside from a trurbo eating itself, nothing else i've heard of. And to clarify, I am fine with a engine or two blowing up, long as something was learned, you know, useful data. Vs some idiot doing something dumb.

It does stand to reason, that more power we wring out, sooner or later, we will find the weak link(s).

 

[terrelltechsup]

Latest comments are that the tuner is getting about a 20% increase over stock power levels on RON98 with no mods. 300hp at the wheels as a stock benchmark, so that's 360whp.

With mods (intake, exhaust, e85), he is seeing 500whp.

Is there some kind of NDA here? Any reason why we dont already know who this person is?

 

[Tonkabob]

This was on FB but no coverage here. Amazing results. Jb4 did not have fuel wires and car does not have bms brake snip. Tune is for california 91 octane.

 

[terrelltechsup]

This was on FB but no coverage here. Amazing results. Jb4 did not have fuel wires and car does not have bms brake snip. Tune is for california 91 octane.
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Guess I do not understand the issue between the jb4 camp and tork camp. Coming from an Optima, tork was present and trying. I know he can be a little crass and combative but I am of the opinion more options are better. Personally I want both. I have the jb4 now and once everything really gets fleshed out, I'll get the ecu/tcu tuned.

 

[Angel]

This was on FB but no coverage here. Amazing results. Jb4 did not have fuel wires and car does not have bms brake snip. Tune is for california 91 octane.
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LOL is that 1 of the 10 Tork ecu tune sold globally vs the 1,000+ JB4 sold?

Great for Tork! Now they need to sell them..........JK

 

[Manaz]

Is there some kind of NDA here? Any reason why we dont already know who this person is?

Kinda, yes. Something happening commercially with his tune. I will reveal all I can as soon as cleared to do so.

 

[Manaz]

Guess I do not understand the issue between the jb4 camp and tork camp. Coming from an Optima, tork was present and trying. I know he can be a little crass and combative but I am of the opinion more options are better. Personally I want both. I have the jb4 now and once everything really gets fleshed out, I'll get the ecu/tcu tuned.

There has been a bit of banter that got a bit heated, it's calmed down lately, which is good to see.

More options is good as long as they are good options - this far, both BMS and Tork seem to both be safe (I have seen bad tunes destroy engines, neither Tork or BMS are doing that, and I've already commented on the safety aspects in the JB4 that make me appreciate the way BMS are operating - that's not a comment on Tork, I have very little visibility of their product).

 

[turboAWD]

Kinda, yes. Something happening commercially with his tune. I will reveal all I can as soon as cleared to do so.

Please do! And just for fun, since I only know one Australian Tuner, and he's done Subarus (including working on my tune), I'll just throw a (guaranteed to be wrong name out there: ThrottleHappy.

 

[Ritz]

No one blew the engine in the US yet?

I haven't seen anyone claiming a blown engine yet, but there is a car the 1/4 mile times thread that just roached his transmission with hard launches at the track. That's with aftermarket turbos. He says he's going to get it rebuilt with more stout clutches. I guess we now know what will give out first as the power levels go up. Frankly, I'm surprised how well the drive train is handling the extra 100-150hp some of the tuners are getting.

Best,

 

[Angel]

Guys I want to announce I am getting her ready..........Her new home will be in Madison Wisconsin......Godzilla will Rise!!!!!!!!