Lozic ECU + TCU + AWD Tune

[SneakerB]

No, they cant as long ECU isnt flashed and stock TCU also is in.

They deff can even with stock ecu put back in

 

[SneakerB]

Anyone ever had their order stuck at “Ready for customs clearance - Incheon Hub”? When tracking my order, it’s been stuck there for a few days now and stopped updating.

Sign up for ups delivery manager ups probably has it.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

They deff can even with stock ecu put back in

So with a typical ECU, Yes, I would agree, However our (and other Kia/Hyundai ECU's) Where built very... lazily in that regard. I have it right from the Kia techline When my motor was replaced, that the integrity checks for the ECU's are largely based on RAM Storage instead of your typical flash memory, meaning that if they don't have power for a certain amount of time, all the information stored in that RAM storage, is just.... Gone. That is why resetting information such as the fuel adaptive is as easy as disconnecting the battery. As far as I have seen, the only things that are really stored Long term on the ECU's are Engine maps, VIN information, and other stuff that typically does not change on a car, ever.

mileage, fuel economy, Boost numbers, and information like that is all variable, So it is stored in the short term RAM storage.

Your cars mileage is tracked in one of the CANBUS modules, so when the ECU looks at it to check apon ignition, instead of throwing up a Discrepancy, it just more or less deletes what it had last remembered the mileage at and just overrides it with what the canbus is reporting.

Now, all of this is information I got directly from the tech who worked on my car, Who IS "Stinger Certified" and is very knowledgeable on cars in general, Not the typical idiots that most kia dealers hire. He has dealt with this kind of issues before and he said that what I have stated above is more or less how the ECU thinks.

So Realistically If a dealer thinks your ECU has been tampered with, Id say with a 95% certainty, its because you scratched the paint on where the ecu sits, and not that they can actually tell.

NOW, Take everything I have said here with a BIG Grain of salt, as I am not a kia employee and have not disassembled an ECU to verify RAM chips, PCB traces, or anything that would verify these claims. I am just passing on what I have been told. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[HoosierStinger]

What kind of oil are you running? More specifically, what thickness? 30 or 40?

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40. When I was using 5w-30 (before Lozic ECU) I noticed the oil would creep down the dipstick throughout the oils life. I changed to 5w-40 about 10K ago and the oil consumption disappeared until I upgraded my primary downpipes.

I mentioned 20w-50 to Lozic and he said I can give it a try. I asked him about 20w-50 because in the 18MY Stinger Kia recommend it. I wonder why they changed their recommendations?

 

[Corleone1]

They deff can even with stock ecu put back in

How and where could they? Kia run diagnostics to look for logged max boost and like rev what I understand and with a stock ECU it cant have been logged.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40. When I was using 5w-30 (before Lozic ECU) I noticed the oil would creep down the dipstick throughout the oils life. I changed to 5w-40 about 10K ago and the oil consumption disappeared until I upgraded my primary downpipes.

I mentioned 20w-50 to Lozic and he said I can give it a try. I asked him about 20w-50 because in the 18MY Stinger Kia recommend it. I wonder why they changed their switched their recommendations?

Oh Good, That the exact oil I was going to suggest trying if you where not on it. The 20w40 probably wouldn't hurt to at least try it.

 

[oc.stinger]

Sign up for ups delivery manager ups probably has it.

UPS has no record of anything under my tracking number Lozic provided me, so I guess I’ll reach out to him and see if he knows what’s going on.

 

[HoosierStinger]

Oh Good, That the exact oil I was going to suggest trying if you where not on it. The 20w40 probably wouldn't hurt to at least try it.

You mean 20w50? Valvoline makes a 20w50 full synthetic API SP rating. That's the one I'm eyeing. But I'm also worried about oil pump strain and the CVVT hydraulic system not liking such a thick oil. I really would like to hear from a Kia engineer why they changed their recommendations. Any Kia engineers on here? lol

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

You mean 20w50? Valvoline makes a 20w50 full synthetic API SP rating. That's the one I'm eyeing. But I'm also worried about oil pump strain and the CVVT hydraulic system not liking such a thick oil. I really would like to hear from a Kia engineer why they changed their recommendations. Any Kia engineers on here? lol

Probably not in this thread at least lol

 

[HoosierStinger]

Probably not in this thread at least lol

I guess I'll give the 20w50 a try since Lozic gave the green light. Also it's summer time and according to Kia's original recommendations 20w50 is gtg.

 

[SneakerB]

All automotive manufacturers use the same basic techniques to detect flash tuning because they all buy their electronics from the same automotive electronics manufacturers. Flash tunes are easily detected after the fact even if flashed to factory and EVEN if you swap the ECU. In this case not only can they detect the ECU itself has been swapped but you'd have to change the computers for the trans, stability control, dash, at a minimum, to try to escape detection. Good luck with that.

There are lots of great reasons to flash your car but doing so makes it impossible to avoid detection later if that is something you're trying to do.

That was posted directly from terry burger

 

[SneakerB]

UPS has no record of anything under my tracking number Lozic provided me, so I guess I’ll reach out to him and see if he knows what’s going on.

It wont be the same tracking number. If you go to ups.com and make an acc and sign up for delivery manager using the same name and address on your package it will show all packeges being delivered to that address without providing tracking number

 

[oc.stinger]

It wont be the same tracking number. If you go to ups.com and make an acc and sign up for delivery manager using the same name and address on your package it will show all packeges being delivered to that address without providing tracking number

Sadly I did do that, and it says “You have no in-transit packages at this time.”

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Sadly I did do that, and it says “You have no in-transit packages at this time.”

Throw the tracking number into this website and see what pops up.

All-in-One Global Package Tracking | 17TRACK

17TRACK supports tracking for 2800+ carriers, including USPS, UPS, FedEx, and DHL. Enter your tracking number to get 99.9% accuracy and real-time updates.

www.17track.net

 

[oc.stinger]

Throw the tracking number into this website and see what pops up.

All-in-One Global Package Tracking | 17TRACK

17TRACK supports tracking for 2800+ carriers, including USPS, UPS, FedEx, and DHL. Enter your tracking number to get 99.9% accuracy and real-time updates.

www.17track.net

That site is showing the same info as the original EMS link that Lozic sent me. Same “Ready for customs clearance - Incheon Hub” I reached out to Lozic on any advice, so we’ll see what he says.

 

[buddy712]

Are you talking dragy or JB4?

Looking for JB4

 

[GennyGuy]

No, they cant as long ECU isnt flashed and stock TCU also is in.

This is incorrect.

It does not matter, if you are running non-oem parts, warranty can be voided. This is part of the risk with modding cars. Also, it depends on what that "something" is that happens. A suspension issue isn't going to get voided because of intakes or things unrelated to that part. But again, unequivocally, the manufacturer can void your warranty when you start messing with their product.

Whether or not they find your "upgrades" or even care if they are on the car is irrelevant.

 

[Yves998]

All automotive manufacturers use the same basic techniques to detect flash tuning because they all buy their electronics from the same automotive electronics manufacturers. Flash tunes are easily detected after the fact even if flashed to factory and EVEN if you swap the ECU. In this case not only can they detect the ECU itself has been swapped but you'd have to change the computers for the trans, stability control, dash, at a minimum, to try to escape detection. Good luck with that.

There are lots of great reasons to flash your car but doing so makes it impossible to avoid detection later if that is something you're trying to do.

That was posted directly from terry burger

I don’t trust either his word or his product anymore since a simple swap to injen intake shaved off 0.3s quarter mile on a 3600 DA day comparing with 2700 DA with BMS intake. Also it shaved off 0-60 by 0.1s too. How badly can their intake being designed to be this much slower than injen.

 

[SneakerB]

I don’t trust either his word or his product anymore since a simple swap to injen intake shaved off 0.3s quarter mile on a 3600 DA day comparing with 2700 DA with BMS intake. Also it shaved off 0-60 by 0.1s too. How badly can their intake being designed to be this much slower than injen.

I trust terry more than anybody in the stinger community.

 

[SneakerB]

I don’t trust either his word or his product anymore since a simple swap to injen intake shaved off 0.3s quarter mile on a 3600 DA day comparing with 2700 DA with BMS intake. Also it shaved off 0-60 by 0.1s too. How badly can their intake being designed to be this much slower than injen.

Not to mention thats such a minuscule difference. Was it the exact same engine temp? Trans temp? Was it on the same day? Was track prep the same? Was the wind blowing the same direction?