Lowering springs misaligned?

[1slow2.5]

Hello fellow hive members was looking for some insight on a situation at hand. I have a 2022 gt line with lowering springs recently installed about a month back initially off the bat with the install I felt a lot of play and the tail would whip back and forth almost like it was loading control over a bump or blemish in the road. I took it back to the installing shop twice now and both times they found nothing wrong today I finally had the opportunity with the day off work to get under the car to inspect and I saw a slightly bent spring on the rear suspension is this normal? How do your springs look while seated on your stinger any help would be appreciated please tired of feeling like I’m going to be sent into another lane after the slightest bump in the road it makes it feel completely unsafe.

 

[Stanger21]

I can't say I've inspected the suspension on my Stinger but I've installed springs on other cars and I can't say I've ever seen anything like the spring in that first picture, it looks like it could ping out the side of the car any second if you go over a big enough bump. It can't be right, did the springs seem bent at all before they were installed?

Sounds silly but are they definitely the correct spec for your particular year etc? I one purchased some springs direct from a certain reputable German manufacturer and what they sent me was the completely wrong ones so it can happen.

 

[1slow2.5]

Yes I ordered the springs direct from the k8 store. They are Eibach model pro kit for the stinger rwd model and no they weren’t bent at all I was just concerned of how badly the spring was bulging out.
I had a shop called Concept 3 out here in socal do the job they are supposed to be a kdm specialist shop and I’m just surprised after taking it in twice they didn’t catch what I did. I’m going in tomorrow hopefully they can get a look at it.

 

[rk88]

So i have ark performance springs but this is how my rear passenger looks. Your first pic scares me.

 

[Kodiack]

Tell them to inspect with them loaded ie: weight on them. If they lifted the car they probably look ok unloaded....definitely not right.
It almost looks like they aren't lined up properly, if the top or bottom isnt lined up it will bulge like that....not good.
Either that or they are too long and aren't the correct springs...
After looking closer it looks like the bottom of the springs aren't in the proper location...they look off center of the pan.

 

[Volfy]

was an alignment done after the lowering spring install?

 

[Snowwhite]

it looks like it's not seated correctly. no they are not supposed to look like that. I will take a photo of mine tonight.

 

[Thomby]

What are these things in between the coils?

 

[Snowwhite]

What are these things in between the coils?
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they're just plastic liners on the springs. my eibachs have those.

 

[Snowwhite]

mine don't look so straight either but nowhere near as crooked as yours, and I don't have any driving issues. have you gotten an alignment since you got them put on?

 

[Thomby]

they're just plastic liners on the springs. my eibachs have those.

Gotcha. Follow-up question: by my count that makes 10 coils, vs. 7-8 in the product photo. Am I seeing things?

 

[Snowwhite]

Gotcha. Follow-up question: by my count that makes 10 coils, vs. 7-8 in the product photo. Am I seeing things?

I don't think those are the actual stinger springs in the k8 photo. the eibach site has them with about 8 coils for the rears. (outside L and R in the photo from the eibach site.) if you stare you can see the plastic liners on coils 3 and 5 starting from the top, along with some on coil 3-4 on the front ones (middle two):

 

[Thomby]

I don't think those are the actual stinger springs in the k8 photo. the eibach site has them with about 8 coils for the rears. (outside L and R in the photo from the eibach site.) if you stare you can see the plastic liners on coils 3 and 5 starting from the top, along with some on coil 3-4 on the front ones (middle two):
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Ok, that makes sense on the Eibach/K8 side, but does the one on the car not look like it has a couple extra coils?

 

[1slow2.5]

was an alignment done after the lowering spring install?

Yes I had it aligned twice and inspected twice by the installing shop I’m definitely going to a different shop tomorrow this hopefully gets resolved.

 

[1slow2.5]

I don't think those are the actual stinger springs in the k8 photo. the eibach site has them with about 8 coils for the rears. (outside L and R in the photo from the eibach site.) if you stare you can see the plastic liners on coils 3 and 5 starting from the top, along with some on coil 3-4 on the front ones (middle two):
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Yeah I saw this too lol I was scared it was the wrong spring it seems to be right the box says the correct part number for the 2.0t rwd ima just have to see what this second shop has to say. Currently I know the alignment is slightly off at the moment in the rear. Would that really cause such significant bow?

 

[1slow2.5]

Ok, that makes sense on the Eibach/K8 side, but does the one on the car not look like it has a couple extra coils?

Yeah I felt that was the case too but I counted the coil rings when off the ground and it was normal nothing seemed off the seating was just slightly off about a inch from the rubber stop on the bottom hat not sure if this is the issue at hand. It’s in the images as well I believe 4th

 

[Volfy]

I wouldn't go by the pictures shown on any website, even Eibach's own "official" website. Just never know if they used photos of the exact items, or just similar stock photos.

 

[Volfy]

The coils themselves look fine to me. Both of Eibach's spring kits for the Stinger/G70 use the exact same rear spring, so I can't imagine they would send you the wrong rear ones. Only the front springs are different - to account for heavier front end of, say, a 3.3T AWD, vs. a 2.0T RWD.

I just took some pics of my '19 2.0T RWD, with the same Eibach spring. The only possible problem areas are either the top or bottom spring seats. Now... the top seat is pretty easy to tell if it's not seated correctly, since the end of the coil should butt up against the notch molded into the top seat. Also the top seat can spin 360deg and there are no "index" points to worry about.

However, the bottom spring seat does have 2 (or 3?) rubber nubs that must be lined up correctly so they poke through holes on the lower control arm meant to receive them. You can see one of them in this pic here (where the flash light beam is shining at). It's the triangular thingy pointing downward. If you do not see any of them (or only one) poking down past the lower control arm (inbetween it and the plastic fairing as shown), then the lower spring seat is not clocked correctly. If that's is the case with your car, the misalignment can allow that lower seat to shimmy around. Whether that would cause the symptoms you described, I dunno. Certainly that would not be good and should be rectified.

It's an easy mistake to make, even for a season shadetree or a "pro". In one of your pics, there does look like an empty hole, which looks like it's one of the index holes. Plus your spring doesn't look like it sat properly centered in the "pocket" on the lower control arm. Those signs worry me.

Regardless... easy to check.


As I said, the top seat just fits into the perch on the chassis. I doubt

 

[1slow2.5]

The coils themselves look fine to me. Both of Eibach's spring kits for the Stinger/G70 use the exact same rear spring, so I can't imagine they would send you the wrong rear ones. Only the front springs are different - to account for heavier front end of, say, a 3.3T AWD, vs. a 2.0T RWD.

I just took some pics of my '19 2.0T RWD, with the same Eibach spring. The only possible problem areas are either the top or bottom spring seats. Now... the top seat is pretty easy to tell if it's not seated correctly, since the end of the coil should butt up against the notch molded into the top seat. Also the top seat can spin 360deg and there are no "index" points to worry about.

However, the bottom spring seat does have 2 (or 3?) rubber nubs that must be lined up correctly so they poke through holes on the lower control arm meant to receive them. You can see one of them in this pic here (where the flash light beam is shining at). It's the triangular thingy pointing downward. If you do not see any of them (or only one) poking down past the lower control arm (inbetween it and the plastic fairing as shown), then the lower spring seat is not clocked correctly. If that's is the case with your car, the misalignment can allow that lower seat to shimmy around. Whether that would cause the symptoms you described, I dunno. Certainly that would not be good and should be rectified.

It's an easy mistake to make, even for a season shadetree or a "pro". In one of your pics, there does look like an empty hole, which looks like it's one of the index holes. Plus your spring doesn't look like it sat properly centered in the "pocket" on the lower control arm. Those signs worry me.

Regardless... easy to check.
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As I said, the top seat just fits into the perch on the chassis. I doubt
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Thinking it should be such a small issue like what you described with the seating in the hat but I think the side step I’m feeling in the rear end is just normal with the car. I read a lot of threads where it was mentioned and it was a normal thing seems the car just doesn’t behave to well over bumpy roads I suppose the lowering of the car doesn’t help, in fact might even make it worst.

 

[Snowwhite]

The coils themselves look fine to me. Both of Eibach's spring kits for the Stinger/G70 use the exact same rear spring, so I can't imagine they would send you the wrong rear ones. Only the front springs are different - to account for heavier front end of, say, a 3.3T AWD, vs. a 2.0T RWD.

I just took some pics of my '19 2.0T RWD, with the same Eibach spring. The only possible problem areas are either the top or bottom spring seats. Now... the top seat is pretty easy to tell if it's not seated correctly, since the end of the coil should butt up against the notch molded into the top seat. Also the top seat can spin 360deg and there are no "index" points to worry about.

However, the bottom spring seat does have 2 (or 3?) rubber nubs that must be lined up correctly so they poke through holes on the lower control arm meant to receive them. You can see one of them in this pic here (where the flash light beam is shining at). It's the triangular thingy pointing downward. If you do not see any of them (or only one) poking down past the lower control arm (inbetween it and the plastic fairing as shown), then the lower spring seat is not clocked correctly. If that's is the case with your car, the misalignment can allow that lower seat to shimmy around. Whether that would cause the symptoms you described, I dunno. Certainly that would not be good and should be rectified.

It's an easy mistake to make, even for a season shadetree or a "pro". In one of your pics, there does look like an empty hole, which looks like it's one of the index holes. Plus your spring doesn't look like it sat properly centered in the "pocket" on the lower control arm. Those signs worry me.

Regardless... easy to check.
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As I said, the top seat just fits into the perch on the chassis. I doubt
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are those yours? I don't know if it's just me but those look like a decent curve as well. and even the ARKs look like they have a bit of a curve. so it looks like itis kind of normal, at least for lowering springs, to look like that on this platform.