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[dasaint]

Wait to test a 2.5L, then you'll know if you need that additional 68 HP.

or an additional 45 HP... or 3 HP.

 

[Ric 'Ochet]

or an additional 45 HP... or 3 HP.

I had this dilemma for a long time as well - I waited for the K5 GT to drop before picking up my CPO GTS. While I like the new K5 GT, the torque steer would send me a little crazy. Also, the Midwest winters are better suited to AWD regardless of Winter/Summer tire combo (I did that swap on my 5 series and G37S as well and got tired of it). Now my swap is performance oriented (lol).

There is a premium right now for used, so waiting might not be bad. I drove the 4cyl and was not impressed (and I was coming from an Optima SXL). She is thirsty though, so be prepared if you go with the 3.3.

 

[dasaint]

I had this dilemma for a long time as well - I waited for the K5 GT to drop before picking up my CPO GTS. While I like the new K5 GT, the torque steer would send me a little crazy. Also, the Midwest winters are better suited to AWD regardless of Winter/Summer tire combo (I did that swap on my 5 series and G37S as well and got tired of it). Now my swap is performance oriented (lol).

There is a premium right now for used, so waiting might not be bad. I drove the 4cyl and was not impressed (and I was coming from an Optima SXL). She is thirsty though, so be prepared if you go with the 3.3.

I don't see any good deals in my area and even the used prices are not much $$ savings compared to new. I drove both the 2.0T and 3.3TT and enjoyed both. I like to get behind the 2.5T (there is nothing available within 100 miles from me) just to make it even more trivial. LOL.

 

[Stanger]

Am I just crazy or does $36k for a used non CPO 2018 GT2 with about 35k miles just seem stupid to buy? I feel like if I could get that for a CPO or non closer to $30k I'd feel ok with it but there's just about nothing nationwide with that. I'm in Seattle and not trying to drive from FL or NC either, unfortunately.

 

[Nocostinger]

I don't see any good deals in my area and even the used prices are not much $$ savings compared to new. I drove both the 2.0T and 3.3TT and enjoyed both. I like to get behind the 2.5T (there is nothing available within 100 miles from me) just to make it even more trivial. LOL.

My local dealer got the 2.5t and I did get a chance to drive it. Its a pretty big difference from the 2.0t.
In the Stinger, its a much nicer base engine with some really solid top end. It felt sluggish on passing above 70mph but, I drive like an assh*le so take that with a grain of salt.

For reliability sake, both engines are solid. I've built the 2.0t in the 2011 Sonata when it first launched stateside then did it twice again in a 2013 and 2015 Optima SXL. With a few bolt ons and a tune, the 2.0t is a decent engine.
Now, the 3.3tt motor is pretty excellent as well. It came out first in the Genesis G80 Sport as an alternative to the 5.0 V8 and proved to be really snappy on the low end. It has a good reliability record and responds well to tuning.
That said, if you're coming from BMW's just maintain your Stinger like a BMW. I keep my oil changed every 5k as I drive mine hard and it feels A-ok.
Keep up on preventative maintenance and you'll be fine.
My local dealer quoted me $90 for a full synthetic oil change which isn't bad for something that was designed by the former Audi design chief and tuned by Albert Biermann, formerly of BMW's M Division.

Do this:
Drive the 3.3tt and don't hold back.
Drive the 2.0t immediately afterwards.

If you can drive the 2.0t afterwards and be happy with the power difference, save the money. If you can't stomach the 2.0t after the 3.3tt, then get more power.

 

[dasaint]

My local dealer got the 2.5t and I did get a chance to drive it. Its a pretty big difference from the 2.0t.
In the Stinger, its a much nicer base engine with some really solid top end. It felt sluggish on passing above 70mph but, I drive like an assh*le so take that with a grain of salt.

For reliability sake, both engines are solid. I've built the 2.0t in the 2011 Sonata when it first launched stateside then did it twice again in a 2013 and 2015 Optima SXL. With a few bolt ons and a tune, the 2.0t is a decent engine.
Now, the 3.3tt motor is pretty excellent as well. It came out first in the Genesis G80 Sport as an alternative to the 5.0 V8 and proved to be really snappy on the low end. It has a good reliability record and responds well to tuning.
That said, if you're coming from BMW's just maintain your Stinger like a BMW. I keep my oil changed every 5k as I drive mine hard and it feels A-ok.
Keep up on preventative maintenance and you'll be fine.
My local dealer quoted me $90 for a full synthetic oil change which isn't bad for something that was designed by the former Audi design chief and tuned by Albert Biermann, formerly of BMW's M Division.

Do this:
Drive the 3.3tt and don't hold back.
Drive the 2.0t immediately afterwards.

If you can drive the 2.0t afterwards and be happy with the power difference, save the money. If you can't stomach the 2.0t after the 3.3tt, then get more power.

Thanks for the info. Just like all my cars, they are all maintained (mostly by me) and kept for long periods of time (unless something catastrophic happens). Time is on my side since my commute has been reduced to 98% due to the pandemic. The Genesis G70 has been added to my watch list. LOL

 

[dasaint]

Am I just crazy or does $36k for a used non CPO 2018 GT2 with about 35k miles just seem stupid to buy? I feel like if I could get that for a CPO or non closer to $30k I'd feel ok with it but there's just about nothing nationwide with that. I'm in Seattle and not trying to drive from FL or NC either, unfortunately.

Yes, I think the used prices are ridiculous. It's great if you are wanting to sell but to purchase a CPO Stinger (at the current time, at the current market price) doesn't make financial sense, IMHO. There are other CPO vehicles that I would get over CPO GT2/GT1. For me, I am just waiting. Thank goodness that my work commute is non-existent for the time being.

 

[monusa]

Wait to test a 2.5L, then you'll know if you need that additional 68 HP.

Just my "little" bit......with the 2.0, it was easy to justify the additional $$$ to pay for the 3.3. For an additional 110 HP, the choice was easy....relatively......

Now, with the 2.5, that difference is down to 68. Still a nice difference but now, that $$$$ decision just got a little harder. Sure, the V6 loyals won't care one way or the other but if you are serious about getting the best "bang for the buck'. that 2.5 is going to be hard to ignore

 

[Nocostinger]

I had this dilemma for a long time as well - I waited for the K5 GT to drop before picking up my CPO GTS. While I like the new K5 GT, the torque steer would send me a little crazy. Also, the Midwest winters are better suited to AWD regardless of Winter/Summer tire combo (I did that swap on my 5 series and G37S as well and got tired of it). Now my swap is performance oriented (lol).

There is a premium right now for used, so waiting might not be bad. I drove the 4cyl and was not impressed (and I was coming from an Optima SXL). She is thirsty though, so be prepared if you go with the 3.3.

I did drive the K5 GT as well. It reminds me of the good ol Acura TL Type S.

Yes, I think the used prices are ridiculous. It's great if you are wanting to sell but to purchase a CPO Stinger (at the current time, at the current market price) doesn't make financial sense, IMHO. There are other CPO vehicles that I would get over CPO GT2/GT1. For me, I am just waiting. Thank goodness that my work commute is non-existent for the time being.

If you're swimming in Stinger waters pre-owned and are used to BMW's, I highly recommend taking a peek at the the M550x drive. Its 4 doors with a detuned version of the M5's biturbo V8. It doesn't look aggressive but puts down some real firepower. Food for thought.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I did drive the K5 GT as well. It reminds me of the good ol Acura TL Type S.


If you're swimming in Stinger waters pre-owned and are used to BMW's, I highly recommend taking a peek at the the M550x drive. Its 4 doors with a detuned version of the M5's biturbo V8. It doesn't look aggressive but puts down some real firepower. Food for thought.

I was lucky enough to get a ride in a 2018 M550i-xdrive and was blown away by the performance off the line. I heard the new 2020/2021 models are even faster off the line (3.5second 0-60?) which is incredible for such a large and luxurious sedan!

But, and it's just my opinion, I would be hesitant buying any used BMW out of warranty. They're very expensive to maintain; especially the higher performing ones. My little old e36-M3 I picked up years ago (bought for $1800 cash and had to put in almost $2000 plus the help of a family friend to get it running again) was super cheap and affordable when compared to the newer BMW cars.

 

[Nocostinger]

I was lucky enough to get a ride in a 2018 M550i-xdrive and was blown away by the performance off the line. I heard the new 2020/2021 models are even faster off the line (3.5second 0-60?) which is incredible for such a large and luxurious sedan!

But, and it's just my opinion, I would be hesitant buying any used BMW out of warranty. They're very expensive to maintain; especially the higher performing ones. My little old e36-M3 I picked up years ago (bought for $1800 cash and had to put in almost $2000 plus the help of a family friend to get it running again) was super cheap and affordable when compared to the newer BMW cars.

BMW's are all money pits. Like anything high performance, the more power you make, the better it corners, the more maintenance it takes.

Basically the closer you get to a race car, the more you need to care for it like a race car.
Once I realized this in life, I learned to be content at a certain point of less maintenance and better reliability...though I do miss my M's

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

BMW's are all money pits. Like anything high performance, the more power you make, the better it corners, the more maintenance it takes.

Basically the closer you get to a race car, the more you need to care for it like a race car.
Once I realized this in life, I learned to be content at a certain point of less maintenance and better reliability...though I do miss my M's

Absolutely! Well put!

Of course if I came from money or made a ton of money myself (we're talking millions n' millions?) I would definitely have a M2 with a six-speed manual and a heavily tuned second generation R8 for weekends, tracks, or fun cruises. Probably throw in an RS3 for a fun daily driver haha!

 

[MerlintheMad]

Absolutely! Well put!

Of course if I came from money or made a ton of money myself (we're talking millions n' millions?) I would definitely have a M2 with a six-speed manual and a heavily tuned second generation R8 for weekends, tracks, or fun cruises. Probably throw in an RS3 for a fun daily driver haha!

No you wouldn't. You'd have something a lot more high end. I would have one of these:

And a few more besides: a vintage 427 Cobra for starters. And airplanes. "Millions and millions" can buy toys like these for comparative pennies on the dollar.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

No you wouldn't. You'd have something a lot more high end. I would have one of these:
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And a few more besides: a vintage 427 Cobra for starters. And airplanes. "Millions and millions" can buy toys like these for comparative pennies on the dollar.

Naaaaa I love the R8. It stands out but differently than a Ferrari or McLaren or Lamborghini. Both the R35-GTR and the R8 have always been my favorite cars. They capture attention and respect but don't try to be too flashy... at least in my opinion. Plus the M2 with a manual transmission is said to be one of the greatest driving experiences by many different journalists. Also an RS3 as a daily is perfect. It's small enough that makes parking easy while being large enough to carry around everything I need.

Is that the Drako supercar? I don't like electric cars. They don't have a sound that I enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's amazing how far electric vehicles have come, and heck I was part of that after working for Tesla for a year, but they're just not my cup of tea.

Airplanes? Like private jets? I don't know anything about helicopters, boats, or aircrafts. I prefer to drive than fly even if it takes significantly longer and is less practical. I'm still young and dumb I guess.

You have good classic taste. A few years ago in Great Falls Virginia I saw a 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 in dark blue with white stripes at a classic car show. Fantastic and beautiful machine. Personally I would be too paranoid driving such a work of art on a public road though.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Is that the Drako supercar? I don't like electric cars. They don't have a sound that I enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's amazing how far electric vehicles have come, and heck I was part of that after working for Tesla for a year, but they're just not my cup of tea.

Yes, the super car indeed. This is where electric gets my attention. I hate them categorically, but this one is an exceptional tour de force. Those are not fake vents, for one thing. No other electric super car comes close to aesthetics and performance function. But the price is dreamland stuff for sure.

Airplanes? Like private jets? I don't know anything about helicopters, boats, or aircrafts. I prefer to drive than fly even if it takes significantly longer and is less practical. I'm still young and dumb I guess.


You have good classic taste. A few years ago in Great Falls Virginia I saw a 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 in dark blue with white stripes at a classic car show. Fantastic and beautiful machine. Personally I would be too paranoid driving such a work of art on a public road though.

No. Airplanes as in Peter Jackson's WW1 replica collection.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Yes, the super car indeed. This is where electric gets my attention. I hate them categorically, but this one is an exceptional tour de force. Those are not fake vents, for one thing. No other electric super car comes close to aesthetics and performance function. But the price is dreamland stuff for sure.

No. Airplanes as in Peter Jackson's WW1 replica collection.

Solid!!

 

[Nocostinger]

No you wouldn't. You'd have something a lot more high end. I would have one of these:
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And a few more besides: a vintage 427 Cobra for starters. And airplanes. "Millions and millions" can buy toys like these for comparative pennies on the dollar.

Id definitely buy a plane or two if I had millions. Old soviet Mig 29's and Sukhoi 27's can be found easily enough these days. Hell, I know a guy who recently bid on an F-4 Phantom with 3 spare sets of engines and a full parts kit. That thing would be my go-fast rig any day!

 

[Nocostinger]

Naaaaa I love the R8. It stands out but differently than a Ferrari or McLaren or Lamborghini. Both the R35-GTR and the R8 have always been my favorite cars. They capture attention and respect but don't try to be too flashy... at least in my opinion. Plus the M2 with a manual transmission is said to be one of the greatest driving experiences by many different journalists. Also an RS3 as a daily is perfect. It's small enough that makes parking easy while being large enough to carry around everything I need.

Is that the Drako supercar? I don't like electric cars. They don't have a sound that I enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's amazing how far electric vehicles have come, and heck I was part of that after working for Tesla for a year, but they're just not my cup of tea.

Airplanes? Like private jets? I don't know anything about helicopters, boats, or aircrafts. I prefer to drive than fly even if it takes significantly longer and is less practical. I'm still young and dumb I guess.

You have good classic taste. A few years ago in Great Falls Virginia I saw a 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 in dark blue with white stripes at a classic car show. Fantastic and beautiful machine. Personally I would be too paranoid driving such a work of art on a public road though.

The R8 sounds good but have you been in a Ferrari Superfast? Those not only drive like you wouldn't believe, they sound nasty as all hell to boot! If we're being honest, my next acquisition won't be anything screaming fast. Im waiting for the Lexus LC500 to fall in price. 3 years old and they've already lost 50-55% of their initial value.
They aren't fast but they're phenomenal touring cars. Novel makes a titanium exhaust for that 5.0 V8 that sounds amazing with its crazy high redline.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

The R8 sounds good but have you been in a Ferrari Superfast? Those not only drive like you wouldn't believe, they sound nasty as all hell to boot! If we're being honest, my next acquisition won't be anything screaming fast. Im waiting for the Lexus LC500 to fall in price. 3 years old and they've already lost 50-55% of their initial value.
They aren't fast but they're phenomenal touring cars. Novel makes a titanium exhaust for that 5.0 V8 that sounds amazing with its crazy high redline.

I've been taken on a ride in a F430 Spyder and a 458 Italia but that's about it for my Ferrari experience. I sat in a 360 Modena but it was parked. I admit I lack a lot of "up to speed" knowledge on the newer supercars and higher-end luxury brands. I would feel awkward driving a Ferrari since "it's a Ferrari" and for me that name has such a strong weight behind those heavy words that it makes me feel like it's too much for me. I rather be in a R8 or LC500 or maybe even a M8 or E63s of some flavor. Again, this is if I had millions upon millions of dollars to blow. I'm sure the newer Ferrari cars are fantastic daily drivers just like Bentley or Aston. I just have always felt the R8 to be the perfect balance between having something exotic and high-end while still maintaining a "reasonably modest" profile.

Oh and I actually had a neighbor with an LC500 who parked next to me at the apartment complex. His car was stock for about three months (their stock exhausts sound incredible) and then he went with an aftermarket exhaust which sounded even better. They're crazy beautiful cars and of course have fantastic Lexus reliability. What disappointed me a bit though was their lack of performance when compared to the looks and sounds of a car I would say starts to dip its toes into exotic appearances.

 

[Nocostinger]

I've been taken on a ride in a F430 Spyder and a 458 Italia but that's about it for my Ferrari experience. I sat in a 360 Modena but it was parked. I admit I lack a lot of "up to speed" knowledge on the newer supercars and higher-end luxury brands. I would feel awkward driving a Ferrari since "it's a Ferrari" and for me that name has such a strong weight behind those heavy words that it makes me feel like it's too much for me. I rather be in a R8 or LC500 or maybe even a M8 or E63s of some flavor. Again, this is if I had millions upon millions of dollars to blow. I'm sure the newer Ferrari cars are fantastic daily drivers just like Bentley or Aston. I just have always felt the R8 to be the perfect balance between having something exotic and high-end while still maintaining a "reasonably modest" profile.

Oh and I actually had a neighbor with an LC500 who parked next to me at the apartment complex. His car was stock for about three months (their stock exhausts sound incredible) and then he went with an aftermarket exhaust which sounded even better. They're crazy beautiful cars and of course have fantastic Lexus reliability. What disappointed me a bit though was their lack of performance when compared to the looks and sounds of a car I would say starts to dip its toes into exotic appearances.

I drove an LC for a couple of days pre-launch. Its an amazing grand touring car. Great road manners for most curves, extremely comfortable to sit in. A total head turner pulling up at the valet for dinner the two evenings (wife LOVED the attention)