Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[brancky3]

I like the new format. 120.3mph is serious but I expected higher with E30 + WMI.

 

[Terry@BMS]

I like the new format. 120.3mph is serious but I expected higher with E30 + WMI.

Yes it wasn't octane limited on WMI + 93 so isn't much of a surprise to me. Adding primary downpipes would probably unlock another 15-20hp at this point but not sure I want to bother with it. Car is a blast as it is.

 

[Revvdmedia]

That's the tricky part with a Dragy - finding a flat, straight stretch of road where you can briefly run a car up to 100+ MPH in a safe manner, and without running afoul of local law enforcement. Sadly, our local racetrack (with 1/4 mile strip) closed a few years back when the city needed the land for a ring road.

Castrol Raceway is only about 2-1/2 hours from you...take the Stinger for a road trip

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Slight improvement. Same mods (JB4, BMS intake, BMS WMI 50/50 mix, Enkei 18" rims, 555R tires) but instead of 91 + octane booster I'm on 30% E85 this tank. Interestingly didn't make much difference in terms of trap speed but timing adapted a bit higher. Started a few feet further and picked up a little slope for the extra 0.01th lol.

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Impressive pull Terry! Congrats on the Mile Stone. I think those wheels/tire combo can help improve a lot of timing in the community.

 

[SteveCo]

Castrol Raceway is only about 2-1/2 hours from you...take the Stinger for a road trip

The thought has crossed my mind ... maybe I'll check into that next year.

At least Nisku's 2300 ft. altitude is about 1500 ft. lower than where I am, so it has that going for it!

 

[Doel]

Yes it wasn't octane limited on WMI + 93 so isn't much of a surprise to me. Adding primary downpipes would probably unlock another 15-20hp at this point but not sure I want to bother with it. Car is a blast as it is.

no Terry, no. As a tuner it's your responsibility to keep pushing your car to new heights, for the community of course

 

[washguy]

I know this is redundant ....do the ssr type down pipes add drone or lotta noise? Ive read both,and listened to the vids,but ya cant go by those....Im thinkin the downpipes did not add very many decibels?
sure would be an easy 25 plus hp...and then wmi to that...WOW .....Wash

 

[Adamdan]

I know this is redundant ....do the ssr type down pipes add drone or lotta noise? Ive read both,and listened to the vids,but ya cant go by those....Im thinkin the downpipes did not add very many decibels?
sure would be an easy 25 plus hp...and then wmi to that...WOW .....Wash

It’s not much extra sound with oem catback. It’s a little more bass in the cabin low rpm under load and you get a bit of popping in sport more slowing down.

 

[Terry@BMS]

A lot of questions about what the WMI is adding vs E30 alone... Did a quick run this AM on map5 for comparison (map8 is the WMI enabled map). Almost the same trap lol. I'll try again when time permits for 11s on E30 only.

 

[Terry@BMS]

For those wondering the 4 rims were $1250 shipped off Amazon, front tires $98 each, rear tires were half used 555Rs off our M4. When new were around $250 each. TPMS sensors were $100 for 4. Figure around $2100 with mounting and balancing for everything. But if the point is to claim it's an expensive setup don't forget to subtract whatever the stock rims/tires/TPMS sensors that are no longer on the car are worth. I looked at the rims as more of a lateral move... Trading some ugliness for around 10hp worth of extra performance and more consistent traction.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

For those wondering the 4 rims were $1250 shipped off Amazon, front tires $98 each, rear tires were half used 555Rs off our M4. When new were around $250 each. TPMS sensors were $100 for 4. Figure around $2100 with mounting and balancing for everything. But if the point is to claim it's an expensive setup don't forget to subtract whatever the stock rims/tires/TPMS sensors that are no longer on the car are worth. I looked at the rims as more of a lateral move... Trading some ugliness for around 10hp worth of extra performance and more consistent traction.

Personally I like the look. Its a more muscle look over luxury sure, but look good to me.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Guys at the office here are split on the look, but the weight savings is legit. Those factory 19s are an engineering tragedy. No reason Kia could not have designed them to be 24# each or less like BMW's 19" rims.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Guys at the office here are split on the look, but the weight savings is legit. Those factory 19s are an engineering tragedy. No reason Kia could not have designed them to be 24# each or less like BMW's 19" rims.

What did the RPF1's weigh?

 

[Terry@BMS]

Little under 19# each. Stock rims and tires ~58# each, compared to ~44# on the new setup, fronts vs. rears +- 1#.

 

[Revvdmedia]

The thought has crossed my mind ... maybe I'll check into that next year.

At least Nisku's 2300 ft. altitude is about 1500 ft. lower than where I am, so it has that going for it!

Actually, the air at Nisku is pretty bad in the summer. I've seen over 3500ft most summer days. It took a (Ford) Performance Pack 1 tune to get my '15 Mustang GT 6MT into the high 12's up here, and that was with a 2.0 60ft and quick shifts (NLS). Not sure many drivers could have done much better. But hey, I whomped my buddy's new '18 Camaro SS 6MT because he hasn't figured out how to launch it yet. His response is "f*ck you and your perfect launches" lol.

I'm curious to see how the Stinger does at our altitude, I figure low 13's (13.3 maybe). It doesn't affect turbo cars quite as much as NA. Then I'll see how it does after a tune/piggyback lol.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Yes the 12.06 was was supposedly with no meth, yet still couldnt break the 11s

That's just a quick run on the way to the office this morning. Based on the MPH I'm confident it will run 11s with the WMI kit off now on E30. WMI helps a lot on 91 octane when you're octane limited. On E30 the octane isn't really a factor. Maybe on a warm day with the factory intercooler it will make a bigger difference but temps are in the low 60s right now.

But big picture you're asking your customers to throw $800 down the drain in a one time flash along with their warranty just so they can run 11.98@119 instead of 12.06@119?

Even if the cars ran the same parts that would be ridiculous. But they aren't running the same parts. You are fully catless with no muffler, upgraded IC, and while I disclosed I was on E30 this morning & post logs of every run we're to trust you did all those runs at the track trying to break in to the 11s and didn't increase the octane? Didn't remove any weight? As the saying goes I was born at night but not last night.

As I've said all along with flash mapping there are several things you can do that are not possible JB4 only. But there are trade offs too. Those who are really serious about performance run both for obvious reasons. But it's funny to see in these early stages just how competitive the JB4 only solution is to the flash maps.

 

[SteveCo]

Actually, the air at Nisku is pretty bad in the summer. I've seen over 3500ft most summer days.

Yes, we can get some pretty high DA numbers once the heat starts rolling back in - will be interesting to see what shakes out ...

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

That's just a quick run on the way to the office this morning. Based on the MPH I'm confident it will run 11s with the WMI kit off now on E30. WMI helps a lot on 91 octane when you're octane limited. On E30 the octane isn't really a factor. Maybe on a warm day with the factory intercooler it will make a bigger difference but temps are in the low 60s right now.

But big picture you're asking your customers to throw $800 down the drain in a one time flash along with their warranty just so they can run 11.98@119 instead of 12.06@119?

Even if the cars ran the same parts that would be ridiculous. But they aren't running the same parts. You are fully catless with no muffler, upgraded IC, and while I disclosed I was on E30 this morning & post logs of every run we're to trust you did all those runs at the track trying to break in to the 11s and didn't increase the octane? Didn't remove any weight? As the saying goes I was born at night but not last night.

As I've said all along with flash mapping there are several things you can do that are not possible JB4 only. But there are trade offs too. Those who are really serious about performance run both for obvious reasons. But it's funny to see in these early stages just how competitive the JB4 only solution is to the flash maps.

You are also on $2,000 wheels and tires.... soooo.

Also, why bring comments from other threads to this one? That thread is a discussion about piggybacks vs ecus. This is about 1/4 mil times not about values of mods (which you have a much more costly modded car).

In regards to your down the drain with warranty your JB4 would do the same thing Terry. Yours is just easier to hide, no difference in getting it reflashed back to stock. If Kia wants to find out they will know since your almost 20PSI of boost is quite abit more than stock.

 

[Terry@BMS]

You are also on $2,000 wheels and tires.... soooo.

Yes but without the luxury of a burn out on a well prepped track and with a worse 60' time. My rims/tires are $2100 but the factory rims/tires are not much less.

In regards to your down the drain with warranty your JB4 would do the same thing Terry. Your is just easier to hide, no difference in getting it reflashed back to stock. If Kia wants to find out they will know since your almost 20PSI of boost is quite abit more than stock.

No because with the JB4 the vehicle is never aware it's making more than the factory boost, load, and toque levels. Meanwhile with the flash peak boost, load, and torque are stored across multiple modules on the vehicle. Flashing back to stock is really a waste of time (not fooling anyone) and tune flash tuners know it.

 

[Blitz]

You are also on $2,000 wheels and tires.... soooo.

Also, why bring comments from other threads to this one? That thread is a discussion about piggybacks vs ecus. This is about 1/4 mil times not about values of mods (which you have a much more costly modded car).

In regards to your down the drain with warranty your JB4 would do the same thing Terry. Yours is just easier to hide, no difference in getting it reflashed back to stock. If Kia wants to find out they will know since your almost 20PSI of boost is quite abit more than stock.

I think that keeping out of competitors threads is a smart move personally. Yeah you might get some bleed-over, but it's better than the feuding in every thread anyone makes that we had before this. Props in my book.