Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[Get Stung]

You are right Blitz on most of this. But if the run is off so is the 60 foot so its not really "money".
I also noticed the huge discrepency in the log vs dragy.
Even before the dump valves these numbers where out liers. Jb4 has 500 Stingers sold so out liers do stand out.
I am a bit of an outlier too since I'm also .4 or .5 faster than i should be but I'm one of 2 tork ecu beta tunes and we are both in the 11s. Plus Blitz just used my dragy on my track with awd, jb4 intake and dp and ran 12.5s.
Pretty easy for Stung to run map 0 and close the dumper and run a 0-60 dragy and log but hasn't. Blitz pulled off his intake cause Stung was getting better results which is ridiculous, but a good test for the community.
So run near stock or run two dragy.
There is no way a catback jb4 map2 93 octane runs 12.1. Terry knows this but doesn't want to turn down the free advertising.
And its not just intake temps cause blitz ran very close temps with same timing and 1 more lb boost.

Scottycole ran 12.6 flat with k&ns and borla catback. No tune. Before you ask his dragy.

He installs the lap pro3 today. we'll do some runs today I'm sure.

 

[TwinSnails]

Scottycole ran 12.6 flat with k&ns and borla catback. No tune. Before you ask his dragy.
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He installs the lap pro3 today. we'll do some runs today I'm sure.

That’s a nice 60ft time, slower than I would have thought on the trap speed, but that’s pretty respectable for no tune.

 

[Blitz]

Scottycole ran 12.6 flat with k&ns and borla catback. No tune. Before you ask his dragy.
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He installs the lap pro3 today. we'll do some runs today I'm sure.

 

[Tonkabob]

@Tonkabob why throw Terry into it? I was with you until then, that’s no different then saying my tires are spinning and I need to call HarmonKardon.

The dragy is a device... either accept the outlier, or don’t. The dragy is meant to compare mods and give you an idea of it worked or not. Instead it has become DEFINITIVE proof.

Divide the 1/4 mile times... Dragy times and true track times. Problem solved... gives some validity to the times. It should have been that way originally not just the *.

I only mentioned Terry cause he is in the best position to say if this is unusual or if all his customers should expect this performance. Not saying anything may sell more product but leave customers frustrated. Blitz removed his intake to be fast like Stung.

 

[Blitz]

I only mentioned Terry cause he is in the best position to say if this is unusual or if all his customers should expect this performance. Not saying anything may sell more product but leave customers frustrated. Blitz removed his intake to be fast like Stung.

Well if someone is running 11s with stock intakes I figured it was definitely worth a test to verify that the aftermarket intakes are increasing my performance. Figured that it was a good test for the community as well. Agency intakes are back on now and I missed the definitely missed the sound!

 

[Tonkabob]

Scottycole ran 12.6 flat with k&ns and borla catback. No tune. Before you ask his dragy.
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He installs the lap pro3 today. we'll do some runs today I'm sure.

Thats really fast for an AWD with those mods.

 

[Get Stung]

Thats really fast for an AWD with those mods.

yep it is, still think the temps are helping.
Lap3 pro going on now, stay tuned

 

[Blitz]

Thats really fast for an AWD with those mods.

2 different dragys too. Leaves 2 options.

Dragy is f&*%ed for different geographical locations. Doesnt seem likely. The leaderboards aren't filled with one location over another.

The ambient temperature, elevation, humidity, or something we aren't tracking is helping ALOT.

 

[Doel]

2 different dragys too. Leaves 2 options.

Dragy is f&*%ed for different geographical locations. Doesnt seem likely. The leaderboards aren't filled with one location over another.

The ambient temperature, elevation, humidity, or something we aren't tracking is helping ALOT.

Bingo, there are fast tracks and slow tracks, fast days and slow days. The same car in two different locations can run very different times, the same car in the same location even during the same day can run two very different times. It's called the "density altitude" which is a number calculated using the temp, elevation, humidity, and barometric pressure. The lower those numbers, the lower the density altitude value, the faster you go. This thread is about the fastest time, not the fastest car. Those that hit the density altitude jackpot are going to have an advantage, that's just the way it is.

The only way to find out who has the fastest stinger is to line em up.

 

[Tonkabob]

yep it is, still think the temps are helping.
Lap3 pro going on now, stay tuned

It's going to be fast.
I added dyno verified 64 hp with a tune and catback k&n drop ins and only ran 12.76 @ 111 and a 1.996 60 But that was at a track and temps in the low 60s.

2 different dragys too. Leaves 2 options.

Dragy is f&*%ed for different geographical locations. Doesnt seem likely. The leaderboards aren't filled with one location over another.

The ambient temperature, elevation, humidity, or something we aren't tracking is helping ALOT.

We have a dragy vortex over Wa messing with our slopes over multiple days. Sucks!

 

[Terry@BMS]

Scottycole ran 12.6 flat with k&ns and borla catback. No tune. Before you ask his dragy.

He installs the lap pro3 today. we'll do some runs today I'm sure.

Damn nice 60' stock! I predict another 11 second Stinger soon. You should have talked him in to a JB4... Same or better performance, better logging and features, for less money and install headache. Then we'd have another in the 11s.

 

[Tonkabob]

Fun with GPS altitude. Maybe dragy can't fix this as the phones altitude is just as bad. The first 2 starting points are on top of each other within a few feet and the third looks like 10 feet according to the coordinates. ? inserted to save the location of the sacred private track. First 2 runs at speed and the last was at 60 MPH. (phone altitude in meters)
On a normal day at speed this track is -.7 to -.8 and at a slower pace its .-35 to .-47.

 

[TwinSnails]

What are you using to hold the phone? Tonka.

 

[StingerNYC]

Thats really fast for an AWD with those mods.

When I was at the track last summer there was a completely stock AWD that ran 12.7 on two runs. I had to check out his car to believe it was completely stock. He beat me both times while I was on JB4 map2 with intakes.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Fun with GPS altitude. Maybe dragy can't fix this as the phones altitude is just as bad. The first 2 starting points are on top of each other within a few feet and the third looks like 10 feet according to the coordinates. ? inserted to save the location of the sacred private track. First 2 runs at speed and the last was at 60 MPH. (phone altitude in meters)
On a normal day at speed this track is -.7 to -.8 and at a slower pace its .-35 to .-47.
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Phone GPS runs around 1 sample per second, while dragy runs around 10 samples per second. The phone itself is not accurate at all. The height aspect of GPS is less accurate than the other coordinates which is why you'll see minor slope variations on the same road. Generally the slope reading is close enough on the average.

When I was at the track last summer there was a completely stock AWD that ran 12.7 on two runs. I had to check out his car to believe it was completely stock. He beat me both times while I was on JB4 map2 with intakes.

Maybe some of us just got factory duds... Our GT was around 13.0@108 stock lol.

 

[Blitz]

When I was at the track last summer there was a completely stock AWD that ran 12.7 on two runs. I had to check out his car to believe it was completely stock. He beat me both times while I was on JB4 map2 with intakes.

Was it a different Model year? It seems there are certainly some inconsistencies, just trying to figure out if it's luck of the draw, or a 2019 change.

 

[Kamauxx]

Was it a different Model year? It seems there are certainly some inconsistencies, just trying to figure out if it's luck of the draw, or a 2019 change.

There were no 2019 Stingers out last summer. They would have both been 2018s.

 

[StingerNYC]

Was it a different Model year? It seems there are certainly some inconsistencies, just trying to figure out if it's luck of the draw, or a 2019 change.

2019s weren't even out yet. I haven't been back to the track to see if my times improved though.

 

[SteveCo]

I was shocked that the Dragy has the measurement accuracy that it does, using GPS satellite data. I don't have a local track for comparison, but from what I've seen from other users, it has proven itself over and over vs. 'official' strip timings.

However, I do occasionally see some variation in the slope value over the same terrain. Vertical error (altitude) from a top-down GPS satellite fix always has a much greater margin for error than horizontal. I don't really care, as once I've found a level stretch of ground I'm comparing the time, speed and distance measurements (to my own numbers), which show up as extremely consistent for a given session (same temperature, road conditions, DA, etc.).

 

[Blitz]

There were no 2019 Stingers out last summer. They would have both been 2018s.

2019s weren't even out yet. I haven't been back to the track to see if my times improved though.

Thanks. Bought MY2019 in 2018 so wasn't sure when they came out or when you went!