JB4 Vs Lap3 ProTuner - Any opinions?

Terry has stated that JB4 is “as fast or faster” processing as the stock ECU is... so capability wise, they are both CANbus...

The JB4 has the ability to remove the speed limiter... just not released due to testing or something.
 
Terry has stated that JB4 is “as fast or faster” processing as the stock ECU is... so capability wise, they are both CANbus...

The JB4 has the ability to do it... just not released due to testing or something.
I am sure it is possible but is all "if" and "when" it happens......the pro tuner does it......no if or when.....
 
I looked into the pressertech & Tork tunes as well, but yes the two hybrid piggybacks will do about 430-440whp on stock Stingers!

Also keep in mind the JB4s run about 30-50 more torque than the lap3 so they still have a ways to go before matching the power and potential of the JB4.:thumbup:

Well everyone is saying that a "real tune" will smack a piggyback but I am not seeing any real tunes hitting these numbers? Also, I understand the JB4 vs Lap3 argument has very divided sides for some reason. I've paged through the bickering threads and I am not impressed with the maturity of Burger jumping into others threads and starting shit on every forum I can find. In saying that, both sides need to put up or shutup. Run them side by side or on the exact same dyno if you are so sure you win the heads up.
 
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Terry posted Dragy times of 12.1 @ 118mph - haven't seen a Lap3 car post a 118mph run yet
 
Well everyone is saying that a "real tune" will smack a piggyback but I am not seeing any real tunes hitting these numbers? Also, I understand the JB4 vs Lap3 argument has very divided sides for some reason. I've paged through the bickering threads and I am not impressed with the maturity of Burger jumping into others threads and starting shit on every forum I can find. In saying that, both sides need to put up or shutup. Run them side by side or on the exact same dyno if you are so sure you win the heads up.
Sir I agree Terry (JB4) will always tell you his product is better, not arguing that but he should LOL it is his product .....we the consumer need to do our research and testing and come up with our own conclusions.....I own a JB4 and i am happy with it but the pro-tuner seems to be the best piggyback out right now if price is not a concern......JB4 is the best if price is a factor.....but i agree right now there no data showing that a ecu tune is better or outperforms... i agree with you on that.....of course the tuners will tell you otherwise....but i am sure once there has been enought development the ecu tune will be better....i will personally go the ecu tune route but in like a year or so for now i am good with my JB4...
 
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Terry posted Dragy times of 12.1 @ 118mph - haven't seen a Lap3 car post a 118mph run yet
I feel you. Wasn't that with meth and full mods? Thanks for all the info guys, I am certainly not taking a side as I just got here and haven't formed an opinion besides not liking the invasive shit starting.
 
I feel you. Wasn't that with meth and full mods? Thanks for all the info guys, I am certainly not taking a side as I just got here and haven't formed an opinion besides not liking the invasive shit starting.
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I feel you. Wasn't that with meth and full mods? Thanks for all the info guys, I am certainly not taking a side as I just got here and haven't formed an opinion besides not liking the invasive shit starting.
Yes meth injection and 91 octane but Terry only had intakes. Fully stock exhaust. Meth injection is not a huge mod but it allows some great power.
 
Meth keeps the charge cooler and allows more timing. Also keeps the top end clean...pair it with a better FMIC and you’ve got about the best charge air money you can... then you just have to get it out.
 
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I am sure it is possible but is all "if" and "when" it happens......the pro tuner does it......no if or when.....

To add that feature you have to cut and splice the speed sensor wire going to your ECU, not many of our customers are going to want to do that. Then there is the issue of high speed vehicle safety with stability control while clamping the speed signal. Another issue is it may void the warranty if vehicle speed is stored redundantly in other modules. Overall just a lot of negatives to it from our perspective. But the JB4 itself can certainly handle the signal clamp so we'll better evaluate it at some point in the future.
 
Yes meth injection and 91 octane but Terry only had intakes. Fully stock exhaust. Meth injection is not a huge mod but it allows some great power.

WMI is huge if you have 91 octane and are not mixing in E85. And with our new nozzle adapter super easy to implement. :)
 

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WMI is a great performance boost, it’s also a great protective benefit.
 
I feel you. Wasn't that with meth and full mods? Thanks for all the info guys, I am certainly not taking a side as I just got here and haven't formed an opinion besides not liking the invasive shit starting.

JB4, BMS intake, BMS WMI, drag radials, 91 octane. Has a lot more in it, just need to get that perfect launch. Finding a flatter track would also help. :)

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WMI is huge if you have 91 octane and are not mixing in E85. And with our new nozzle adapter super easy to implement. :)
Sorry, when I said it wasn't huge I meant it wasn't hugely invasive - meaning it can be easily installed and removed. Easier than downpipes at least.
 
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WMI is huge if you have 91 octane and are not mixing in E85. And with our new nozzle adapter super easy to implement. :)
Is the adapter avalaible for sale ?? How much is the kit ??
 
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I think this week it’s supposed to be available.... I think :cautious:
 
Sorry, when I said it wasn't huge I meant it wasn't hugely invasive - meaning it can be easily installed and removed. Easier than downpipes at least.

Yes especially with our new adapter. Can install/remove a kit in 15-20 min start to finish. And some of that is one time setup stuff so even faster to remove & reinstall. :)
 
Is the adapter avalaible for sale ?? How much is the kit ??

Should be this week! Meth kits are on our site, depends on tank setup you choose. Adapter will add another $89 give or take.
 
Good To hear....The Lap 3 pro tuner seems better than the JB4.... i personally own a JB4 and like it......but the pro tuner is bad ass i have a friend with one locally to me and he has the same mods and his car is faster and it just feels faster as well......but for me when i seen the install instructions of getting to the cam sensor i was like i am good with the JB4 even if its a little slower....but i personally will get an actual ecu tune for the price of a pro tuner....but it is good to hear that you like it and its performing well
I have to respectfully disagree and here are a few facts to prove otherwise.

First of all, both “hybrid” chips can alter the same exact parameters and any difference of power is simply based on each tuners boost, ignition & A/F settings...

Second, according to both Stock dyno’s, lap3 sacrifices a ton of low end torque to maximize HP.:thumbdown:Not only do they make 25 less peak torque, it’s actually 100wtq less at 2500 rpm, and 60wtq less at 4k!:eek:

That’s a huge difference in low end power and only good for drag racing or trying to break HP records.

Bottom line, they’re simply moving the power curve higher to prioritize peak HP over daily drivability. The lap3 only makes more power from 4500-6k so unless someone normally drives at over 5k rpm the JB4 will be & feel faster.

Again, since both “hybrid” chips can make the same adjustments saying one is better than the other is misleading. Whatever the lap3 can do the JB4 can do as well. It’s simply how each tuner prioritizes power. Max HP(lap3) for top end speed vs max torque(JB4) for improved daily drivability and 0-60 runs.

Hope this helps and happy tuning all!
 
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