Is the Stinger a DCT(Dual Clutch Transmission)?

[Travis Wills]

Please settle this once and for all. My understanding is the the Stinger has an 8 speed traditional planetary automatic with a torque converter. However, my salesman and this article both told me that the Stinger has a DCT. Can you set the record straight on this one?

Some of the comments in the article indicated that some Stingers have a DCT and some don’t. What is correct?

Dual-clutch transmissions got started in racing, but now they're on everything from supercars to hatchbacks. These are my favorites, ranked.

 

[nhcowboy28]

not a DCT.

SLUSHBOX. (Pretty decent).

 

[westcoastGT]

not a DCT.

SLUSHBOX. (Pretty decent).

Didnt the GTS's get a DCT ?? or was it just the Diff ??

 

[General_Vodka]

Didnt the GTS's get a DCT ?? or was it just the Diff ??

just the diff. that's it. No DCT here. just the normal slushbox

 

[Silvermanor]

Conflicting info on whether or not it's a ZF 8 speed but It's a good unit and it can handle alot of power.

 

[General_Vodka]

Conflicting info on whether or not it's a ZF 8 speed but It's a good unit and it can handle alot of power.

Pretty sure it's not a ZF. It's kias take on a ZF but not really a ZF.

 

[AdamNZ]

No, the Stinger doesn't use a dual-clutch transmission, and never has. It uses eight-speed torque converter twins from Hyundai Transys: the A8LR1 for RWD and the A8TR1 for AWD. AT(FR) | HYUNDAI TRANSYS.

 

[Nasscar]

Kia's own torque converter transmission.

 

[eflyguy]

Please settle this once and for all.

Not sure why it "has to be settled".. It's never been up for debate. As stated, it never has had a DCT.

If it did, it would have been marketed as such.

 

[Travis Wills]

Not sure why it "has to be settled".. It's never been up for debate. As stated, it never has had a DCT.

If it did, it would have been marketed as such.

When I bought my Stinger a salesman explicitly told me it has a DCT. I said it didn’t and he still stood behind his claim. Also the article about DCTs claims the Stinger has one. There is definitely still some confusion out there.

 

[Metalmania82]

Pretty sure it's not a ZF. It's kias take on a ZF but not really a ZF.

I WISH it had a ZF!

 

[Rynil2000]

Please settle this once and for all. My understanding is the the Stinger has an 8 speed traditional planetary automatic with a torque converter. However, my salesman and this article both told me that the Stinger has a DCT. Can you set the record straight on this one?

Some of the comments in the article indicated that some Stingers have a DCT and some don’t. What is correct?

Dual-clutch transmissions got started in racing, but now they're on everything from supercars to hatchbacks. These are my favorites, ranked.

If my shopping experience taught me anything, it was do not listen to what sales people tell you about the car. At least take everything they say with a HUGE grain of salt. Most of them may as well be temporary workers, who rotate from one manufacturer to the next every few months, and say whatever it takes to get you to plunk down as much money as they can squeeze out of you. Nearly every time I took a test drive, someone would tell me something ludicrously wrong about the car I was driving.

Example: One of the salespeople was swore up and down that Kia was developing a GT4 roadster and the proceeded to show me 3 year old photos of the Stinger concept vehicle.

Do your own research. Read the manufacturers specs and reputable reviews. Not sure why the Stinger is lumped into that article, but Business Insider opinion piece via Yahoo news isn't really top tier journalism. Try Road & Track, Car & Driver, Motor Trend, even Jalopnik.

A: Torque converter auto-trans. Developed in-house, which IMO is more impressive for how good it feels.

 

[Nasscar]

When I bought my Stinger a salesman explicitly told me it has a DCT. I said it didn’t and he still stood behind his claim. Also the article about DCTs claims the Stinger has one. There is definitely still some confusion out there.

Just shows you how well some of the car salesman out there know their cars. Definitely not a DCT.

 

[eflyguy]

 

[cwbrant]

Would it benefit and be better with a dct?? Shifts may be quicker.

 

[Stock_stinger]

Would it benefit and be better with a dct?? Shifts may be quicker.

Shifts may be faster but making a dct handle lots of power is extremely expensive. Not to mention they are easy to do wrong, don't like slow speeds/crawling and way more to replace.

 

[cwbrant]

Chargers with scatpacks have the ZF 8 speed. These things can handle wicked horsepower. Would Stinger benefit from the ZF or do you think their in-house unit is sufficient? I know it’s cheaper for sure.

 

[stoopid]

When I bought my Stinger a salesman explicitly told me it has a DCT. I said it didn’t and he still stood behind his claim. Also the article about DCTs claims the Stinger has one. There is definitely still some confusion out there.

There's one site that's posted misinformation out there. The only confusion is why people nowadays *look* for the outlier. [this isn't pointed at you Travis, just a general statement based on observation of the past decade of the quality of information on the internet degrading]

Anyway, the shifts on the A8TR1 are really quick and seamless. I'm not sure I care if it's DCT.

This wikipedia page says the A8TR1 is rated up to 383 lb/ft torque, which is close to what the engine puts out stock. This would make me really weary of tuning the car.

The same wikipedia page also lists all the Hyundai DCT models, and none of them meet the torque requirements for the 3.3L, so that can easily explain why they didn't put a DCT in the 3.3L Stinger.

 

[rpoffen]

There's one site that's posted misinformation out there. The only confusion is why people nowadays *look* for the outlier. [this isn't pointed at you Travis, just a general statement based on observation of the past decade of the quality of information on the internet degrading]

That's pretty much what conspiracy theory is all about. You could point to dozens, hundreds, even thousands of papers, books, and articles that tell the truth about something based on science, but they will find ONE quack that says different, and latch on to it and never let go. Just the desire to be different. Look at some of the things that Q-anon preaches, like space based lasers that are the real cause for the forest fires last summer.

 

[stoopid]

That's pretty much what conspiracy theory is all about. You could point to dozens, hundreds, even thousands of papers, books, and articles that tell the truth about something based on science, but they will find ONE quack that says different, and latch on to it and never let go. Just the desire to be different. Look at some of the things that Q-anon preaches, like space based lasers that are the real cause for the forest fires last summer.

That's basically the details of my thinking, I was trying to keep it general to not start a shit storm.

I'm not sure it can be summarized as easily as "wanting to be different". I think people look for an echo-chamber, something to validate a desired outcome. Most Qanons are anti government and politically right leaning, so naturally all the BS that they're feeding on is against the establishment [even though the right have controlled 3/4 of the branches of government for a few years now, until recently] and more specifically the left. Who cares how valid an accusation is if it allows them to justify the actions they want to take. I don't underestimate the power of validation.

In the example of this post/topic, the OP may have wanted confirmation of the DCT as a form of wishful thinking [assuming they thought the Stinger having a DCT was an improvement on paper]. IE - validation of an outcome they desired. They temporarily(?) latched onto the one source they could find to validate that wishful claim. But at least they asked for confirmation!