Intro - newbee buying his first Stinger

[RickyV]

Buying any used car is a gamble. The more miles/years it has been pre-owned, the more you're likely to find skeletons in the closet. Ideally, you'd find a lady-owned low-miles, no more than 1-2 year old. Lack of performance mods doesn't automatically mean it hasn't seen it rough, but any visible mod(s) should be viewed with extreme prejudice. Good indicator of previous owner's mindset Peruse these forums, and you'll see that these cars are prone to be thrashed about.

Last thing you'd want is to buy somebody else's headache.

This car only has 23K on the clock. It was a rental car so im sure it got thrown into a wall or two. The exterior damage was fixed but nothing else. Dealer said car was purchased at auction in GA over the summer.

 

[Snicklefritz]

2 accidents reported​

No damage reported.

1 previous owner​

That's from the car offer page. How does that square with "light" and "moderate"? But Ima thinking that what you are feeling, along with limited RPM output, and the valved exhaust on the refresh '22 models, they go into "limp mode" as a quirk, particularly when you WOT before fully warmed up. It's a reported thing on here. And it won't go away until the car is shut down and restarted. While in limp mode of course it won't run right. As you described it, that might be most or all of the car's issues. Anyway, if they make good on fixing everything and another test drive doesn't show anything amiss, and they sell for c. $20,000, what would you do then? I think that sounds doable.

How do you know it was a rental? I haven't heard of the Stinger being a rental. "1 owner" was the rental company? That would be super rare and weird.

 

[RickyV]

2 accidents reported​

No damage reported.

1 previous owner​

That's from the car offer page. How does that square with "light" and "moderate"? But Ima thinking that what you are feeling, along with limited RPM output, and the valved exhaust on the refresh '22 models, they go into "limp mode" as a quirk, particularly when you WOT before fully warmed up. It's a reported thing on here. And it won't go away until the car is shut down and restarted. While in limp mode of course it won't run right. As you described it, that might be most or all of the car's issues. Anyway, if they make good on fixing everything and another test drive doesn't show anything amiss, and they sell for c. $20,000, what would you do then? I think that sounds doable.

How do you know it was a rental? I haven't heard of the Stinger being a rental. "1 owner" was the rental company? That would be super rare and weird.

Ill have to see what they say on Monday. The car was warmed up, it had been driven over from storage and then i sat and had it idle for 10 mins. i agree it felt like limp mode but only when you punched it. If they wanna fix whats wrong and offer it to me at 20K, and i have all the proof the job was done right then maybe. However that doesnt explain why all the codes were intentionally cleared. Ive had 2 cars in the past at dealerships like this have codes cleared..my wifes Chevy Traverse had its ECU cleared before we bought it. Turned out a CAT was bad and they had to fix it before i bought the car. Dealers do this all the time.

It was listed as a fleet vehicle or corporate use. The dealer told me that usually equals it was a rental and possibly a Turo rental. Copied over carfax report below.

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Not all accidents / issues are reported to CARFAX

Event 1​

08/31/2022

• Accident reported: minor damage
  
  • Vehicle involved in a sideswipe collision
  • Functional damage reported
  • Airbags did not deploy

Event 2​

05/09/2023

• Accident reported: minor to moderate damage
  
  • Functional damage reported
  • Airbags did not deploy

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[Alpinesting]

Yikes! Sounds like a trip to a Kia dealership is in order.

 

[RickyV]

Yikes! Sounds like a trip to a Kia dealership is in order.

Yeah..like mentioned previously the car did feel like it was in some sort of limp mode..when you first hit the gas it starts to take off and then dies. When you floored it the car went to take off, and then suddenly felt like it was towing a trailer loaded with boulders. It could be a simple fix or major problems. Reflecting back on yesterday, it was clear as day these snakes selling the car knew it was a huge issue and they hoped i somehow wouldnt know. They are so stupid they thought i wouldnt try to launch a twin turbo V6 and wouldnt realize something was wrong. Cant wait for them to follow up with me tomorrow, ill post the email here.

 

[RickyV]

Gonna check this out tomorrow..not very keen on the mileage but worth a look. Just wanted to get any thought on the mileage vs the price from you guys. Thanks!!!

https://www.carfaxdotcom/vehicle/KNAE55LC3J6015985

 

[Thomby]

BTW..when i drove the modded car, i felt no differnce in the suspension from comfort to sport mode, i was thinking maybe thats because its not the OEM suspension but wasnt sure

I have driven ECS for almost seven years now. There is no perceivable, to my butt, difference in any of the ECS drive modes. That same optional selection applies to all of the electronic gizmos. For instance, I can tell no difference in the steering feel between Sport and the rest of the drive modes.

Just chiming in to confirm: in my GT2 I feel no difference in shock settings, or steering speed, between Eco, Comfort, and Sport.

I do immediately notice the higher shift points (flipping to Sport while cruising steadily at lower revs will usually downshift), the more sensitive throttle pedal, and the seat bolsters tightening. The valved mufflers (2022+, I believe) also make a subtle difference.

 

[Alpinesting]

Near average mileage. These are going to get harder to find. But, the basic engine/drivetrain are available because of

the Genesis line. Check it out.

 

[RickyV]

Near average mileage. These are going to get harder to find. But, the basic engine/drivetrain are available because of

the Genesis line. Check it out.

Hey man yeah... 2 dealers i went to offer me a Genesis G70 after I passed on the Stinger, I said no as it’s not what i want. As for this car today, HARD PASS. This place wants me to drop 24k in total out the door, with no maintenance history, a BS 30 day warranty that covers really nothing and wont budge on the price with a car at 83K miles. The oil was dirty, i mean at least do a simple oil change to show me you really looked over the car. I looked right at the guy and was like I’m not the sucker you are looking for, but I’m sure some buyer, full of emotion and no logic, will come take it off your hands. I’m a hard customer, I get it..but I will get the right deal for me I’m not falling prey to these scumbags. I don’t care of it takes a year..