I can't stand other drivers

Devin

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No one pays attention anymore. Hasn't even been a year since I've been hit. Fortunately nothing happened this time.

Make getting license harder and all the folks that want to be passengers can just let a computer drive them.
 
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Cell phones.
 
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As much as people in the PacNW are loathe to use it--there's a reason cars have horns.

But yeah, US drivers suck. A$$h*les like that driver should take the bus.
 
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I think we all have the same view.

You have to make allowances for all the rules others don't know or follow and that's most rules but if you have the opportunity, why would you drive in the outside lane when there is a vacant inside lane? It puts you closer to oncoming traffic and having to avoid idiots like the one shown.......
 
That looks lie a two lane road with marked shoulders to me, so, no option to drive in the outside lane. I hold a different view when there is an option to drive in the center or outside lane. I want as much maneuvering room and warning as possible when some idiot barges out of a parking lot or side street. If you make a habit of driving in the outside / near lane, they'll take you out. At least when driving in the center lanes you can observe the oncoming traffic constantly and see a situation developing and swerve to avoid it. At least, that's the plan.
 
I think we all have the same view.

You have to make allowances for all the rules others don't know or follow and that's most rules but if you have the opportunity, why would you drive in the outside lane when there is a vacant inside lane? It puts you closer to oncoming traffic and having to avoid idiots like the one shown.......
One of the things about PacNW drivers (of which I am one, so yeah, I'm guilty of this too on occasion) is that they don't to the typical "Drive in the right lane/pass in the left lane" like much of the rest of the world. What a lot of them do is get into the lane of whatever their next move is going to be. I lived in Seattle for a while back in the 2000's, and if I'm not mistaken, that road ends in a T with the left lane going left, and the right lane going right, so a lot of drivers go over that bridge in the lane that will take them right or left. I could be wrong though, it's been awhile since I lived there.
 
One of the things about PacNW drivers (of which I am one, so yeah, I'm guilty of this too on occasion) is that they don't to the typical "Drive in the right lane/pass in the left lane" like much of the rest of the world
Honestly I think that sums up most of the US. Pretty much everywhere I have driven in the US (which is a about 2/3 of the states by now) for the most part people just sit in whatever lane they're in regardless of whether or not they're passing. It seems like there's a few different mind sets that cause this. They seem to be "I'm eventually going to turn left", "I'm not exiting (or turning right) any time soon", "I'm in this lane and there's nothing forcing me to change lanes in front of me", And then there's just people who immediately go all the way over into the left lane the second they turn on to a multi lane road even if the road is completely empty. Some states are worse than others, but the problem is country wide from my experience.

When I was driving in Europe, there was NONE of this. Well there might have been but I never came across it in the almost month I was there. I absolutely loved driving out there and for the first time I felt like I was driving where I was born to drive. Everyone always stayed to the right unless they were passing. There wasn't any road rage (due to self centered inconsiderate morons), it wasn't difficult passing, people didn't go half a KM/h faster then the car next to them while passing simply because they were on cruise control and didn't want to be bothered to change anything with their driving to convenience the rest of the flow of traffic.
 
Honestly I think that sums up most of the US. Pretty much everywhere I have driven in the US (which is a about 2/3 of the states by now) for the most part people just sit in whatever lane they're in regardless of whether or not they're passing. It seems like there's a few different mind sets that cause this. They seem to be "I'm eventually going to turn left", "I'm not exiting (or turning right) any time soon", "I'm in this lane and there's nothing forcing me to change lanes in front of me", And then there's just people who immediately go all the way over into the left lane the second they turn on to a multi lane road even if the road is completely empty. Some states are worse than others, but the problem is country wide from my experience.

When I was driving in Europe, there was NONE of this. Well there might have been but I never came across it in the almost month I was there. I absolutely loved driving out there and for the first time I felt like I was driving where I was born to drive. Everyone always stayed to the right unless they were passing. There wasn't any road rage (due to self centered inconsiderate morons), it wasn't difficult passing, people didn't go half a KM/h faster then the car next to them while passing simply because they were on cruise control and didn't want to be bothered to change anything with their driving to convenience the rest of the flow of traffic.
I've noticed on highways at least that it's less prevalent in the midwest. You drive right/pass left. Down the I-5 corridor between Blain and Medford, no dice--even though I do try to adhere to drive right/pass left when I can--I am guilty of it too.

Europe is a different ballgame, but then again everything I hear from my inlaws is that getting licensed to drive there is much, much, much more difficult. Plus, they tend to treat driving as a privilege, not a right. Meanwhile, states out here have nixed the parallel parking requirement because not enough people were passing it. Even though that's all the more reason to have that requirement!
 
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Today...

Moments ago.

Lane change - to a full stop. I was not expecting the "FULL STOP"
Guys behind me as well, if I had a rear facing cam, that was a close rear ending for me.

 
Today...

Moments ago.

Lane change - to a full stop. I was not expecting the "FULL STOP"
Guys behind me as well, if I had a rear facing cam, that was a close rear ending for me.

DJ - that's where I would be leaning on my horn - not letting go.
 
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One thing I have noticed on Youtube videos of police chases in the USA is the excessive amount of Stop signs. You would encounter a Stop sign in Australia only where there is poor visibility. In most cases it would be a give way sign, so no need to Stop unless there is a car approaching.
 
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Here in the Northeast, the worst drivers are those who get into the left-most lane and then just stay there either at or barely above the flow of traffic in the other lanes. It's like a rolling roadblock. I am certainly guilty of hanging out in the left lane, but I do try to pay attention to what is going on behind me.

Sometimes I say that I have all of the bad habits from everywhere I drove as a young driver. I grew up and learned to drive in Southwestern Washington, joined the Army and went to Germany right after High School, then went to college in New York.
 
Here in the Northeast, the worst drivers are those who get into the left-most lane and then just stay there either at or barely above the flow of traffic in the other lanes. It's like a rolling roadblock. I am certainly guilty of hanging out in the left lane, but I do try to pay attention to what is going on behind me.

Sometimes I say that I have all of the bad habits from everywhere I drove as a young driver. I grew up and learned to drive in Southwestern Washington, joined the Army and went to Germany right after High School, then went to college in New York.
Left-lane huggers are everywhere, not just the Northeast. Plenty of them here in TX. If it's an old grandpa or grandma, it doesn't bother me as much. I certainly hope when I get to be senile enough not to have the reflexes & reaction time to drive above the PSL, other motorists will afford me some consideration.

What I find most aggravating are those who drive super slow because they are on their smartphone texting away. Moping along at 45mph on a 70mph fwy might be safer for them to glue their eyeballs to the iPhone, it messes up everybody else trying to get around them.
 
Right lane here because we drive on the left but same problem. As someone mentioned earlier there is better vision from the outside lane so people drive in it. It also avoids more punctures as lanes sweep to the inside curb rather than the centre. You can drive in any lane in Australia marked 80 kmh (50mph) or below. Above 80kmh you must only be in the outside lane when overtaking but many ignore this.

My biggest concern is lack of road rules knowledge. They pass their license test then it's everyone else's fault that they don't know the rules. You ask anyone what the TEN roundabout rules are they can think of one and usually get it wrong. You ask what a traffic signal turning yellow means and you get ten different answers. Who goes first, a driver doing a U turn or one turning at a Stop sign. You would be surprised. So, driving in the outside lane is the least of one's problems when drivers out there actually think they are right and are in a state of shock when you show them the actual rule.
 
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You are allowed to make a mistake though and we all do. But that's OK because we know we made it. It's those behind that don't so it can be misconstrued by others into road rage. Take it easy. I can follow a vehicle for one kilometre and record ten road rule breaches. 1. Above the speed limit. 2. Hitting a continuous line at the side or centre. 3. Cutting a corner. 4. Failing to give way. 5. Entering a bike lane. 6. Failing to indicate around a parked car. 7. Failing to stop at a yellow light. 8. Turning in front of incoming traffic. 9. Using the horn except in emergency. 10. Pulling into or out of a curb without indicating. All minor indiscretions and all not a problem to the driver because hey the guy that cut you off now HE is the big problem along with the guy in the outside lane. So, any of those minor indiscretions will cause someone else grief, but that's OK because it didn't cause YOU grief. So rather than whinge about everyone out there which is actually YOU on another day...........log onto your government legislation and read those 4000 plus rules you never knew existed. :)
 
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