how to get pass 400 hp

[jerryyas5]

we have 91 here in los angeles starting at about $4.39 cheapest at arco an upward to $4.99

 

[jerryyas5]

that was by lax airport on florance and lacianica in inglewood

 

[Beer Snob]

Your 10%-15% is generally correct. Your 17%-25% number is wildly off base. These cars typically have nearly identical mpg numbers between RWD vs. AWD. Older cars had much less efficient power trains.

Today’s cars typically will have between 10%-15% power train loss regardless of AWD or RWD. With a good DCT and RWD it can be as low as 8% now.

I would love to see some proof that driving 4 wheels instead of just 2 is equally as efficient. Also, we do not have DCT's.

 

[Travis Wills]

I would love to see some proof that driving 4 wheels instead of just 2 is equally as efficient. Also, we do not have DCT's.

They list a mpg rating for each car. If the losses were anywhere close to double for AWD the mpg ratings would be substantially different for RWD vs. AWD. They are the exact same for some cars and only off by 1 mpg for the Stinger GT2.

Of course we don’t have a DCT. That is why it is not an 8%-10% loss for Stingers. More like 12%-15% for both RWD and AWD. AWD is just ever so slightly more loss than RWD in the Stingers.

 

[Travis Wills]

we have 91 here in los angeles starting at about $4.39 cheapest at arco an upward to $4.99

E85 is about $2.20 a gallon here on the East Coast. 93 is about $3.20. A 93/E85 blend is not that expensive here. I would have to ride a bike everywhere if I ever moved back to Cali.

 

[SIMONGUEY]

i havent checked mpg’s between awd & rwd
but im gonna start tomorrow
i average 12 mpg in awd. sometimes less.... gas is watered down in los angeles. plus i have lead foot

felt that! if I'm unlucky I hit 10 mpg in the city lol...

 

[jerryyas5]

felt that! if I'm unlucky I hit 10 mpg in the city lol...

the only time i see 15 plus mpg is on the freeway when i have a long way to go and in eco mode.

 

[Beer Snob]

They list a mpg rating for each car. If the losses were anywhere close to double for AWD the mpg ratings would be substantially different for RWD vs. AWD. They are the exact same for some cars and only off by 1 mpg for the Stinger GT2.

Of course we don’t have a DCT. That is why it is not an 8%-10% loss for Stingers. More like 12%-15% for both RWD and AWD. AWD is just ever so slightly more loss than RWD in the Stingers.

Actually, the mpg rating for the 3.3TT RWD (EPA, mind you) is 18/25/20, but for AWD is 17/24/20, so you just literally proved my point. It's physics. AWD will always have a higher drivetrain loss when compared to a RWD. This is the reason why he is gaining HP by effectively disconnecting the front wheels from being driven. You can literally google this and find thousands of articles stating this is the case. It's called parasitic loss. Even the extra weight of the front driveshaft causes it, not to mention the unsprung weight of the front wheels added to that of the rear wheels. AWD puts less power to the ground, but does it in a more efficient manner for the launch.

 

[SIMONGUEY]

the only time i see 15 plus mpg is on the freeway when i have a long way to go and in eco modit really do be like that lol.

 

[ScottM]

Google!! Drivetrain Power Loss - The 15% "Rule"- Modified Magazine

 

[jerryyas5]

Actually, the mpg rating for the 3.3TT RWD (EPA, mind you) is 18/25/20, but for AWD is 17/24/20, so you just literally proved my point. It's physics. AWD will always have a higher drivetrain loss when compared to a RWD. This is the reason why he is gaining HP by effectively disconnecting the front wheels from being driven. You can literally google this and find thousands of articles stating this is the case. It's called parasitic loss. Even the extra weight of the front driveshaft causes it, not to mention the unsprung weight of the front wheels added to that of the rear wheels. AWD puts less power to the ground, but does it in a more efficient manner for the launch.

its night and day from both modes. Launching off in awd with traction off is like a rocket, Where is launching off in rwd with traction off Let you walking down the street like a 39who. very fun

 

[SIMONGUEY]

with my current set up and a e30 mix yall think I'm hitting 400? i got ewg cables on the way also rn.

 

[ChaneRZ]

With intakes/exhaust/e30/jb4 map2, should be over 400 I think.

 

[Travis Wills]

Actually, the mpg rating for the 3.3TT RWD (EPA, mind you) is 18/25/20, but for AWD is 17/24/20, so you just literally proved my point. It's physics. AWD will always have a higher drivetrain loss when compared to a RWD. This is the reason why he is gaining HP by effectively disconnecting the front wheels from being driven. You can literally google this and find thousands of articles stating this is the case. It's called parasitic loss. Even the extra weight of the front driveshaft causes it, not to mention the unsprung weight of the front wheels added to that of the rear wheels. AWD puts less power to the ground, but does it in a more efficient manner for the launch.

It is 1 mpg on the city and highway and zero combined. For most sedans in this class it is zero for city too. The difference for AWD is absolutely negligible in modern sedans like the Stinger. The EPA tests demonstrate that point.

 

[RogueIV]

got 450 ft pd of torque with awd an 350 hp and with awd turn off by pulling fuse ( switch install) 500 ft pd of torque and 389 hp to rear wheel
why is this. What can I do to get more power. got injen air filters, stage one tune, secondary cat delete, snorkel delete,
it’s enough to leave a scat pack 39who
but i still need more power

Wait a minute. Is your car not an Indigo Edition? Sport plus should basically deactivate the front wheels without pulling any fuses.

 

[jerryyas5]

Wait a minute. Is your car not an Indigo Edition? Sport plus should basically deactivate the front wheels without pulling any fuses.

I don’t know what the indigo edition is. but i do know it’s almost always in awd. i can tell by the way it take off and when i gas brake

 

[RogueIV]

I don’t know what the indigo edition is. but i do know it’s almost always in awd. i can tell by the way it take off and when i gas brake

Is your car a repaint or just not in the US? As far as I know the only model that Deep Chroma Blue was available on in the US was 2020 GT "Indigo Edition" (only 500 made) which has the D-AWD system from a GTS. You put it into sport then hold down the TCS button till both Traction and Stability controls are disabled and it should put all the power to the rear wheels.

 

[jerryyas5]

Is your car a repaint or just not in the US? As far as I know the only model that Deep Chroma Blue was available on in the US was 2020 GT "Indigo Edition" (only 500 made) which has the D-AWD system from a GTS. You put it into sport then hold down the TCS button till both Traction and Stability controls are disabled and it should put all the power to the rear wheels.

i got all that of which u were saying. It turns off the traction control and the stability control and puts it into launch control. I deemed launch control useless after I cut the brake switch wire to the ECM Launch control only let you go to 1500 RPMs. cutting the brake switch wire aka( burn out switch) let you go to 3000 RPMs before the tires spin, and in all wheel drive all four tires takeoff burning rubber for a tiny bit
But I will go out there today I’ll try launch control with all wheel drive on and see if the back tires will spin out. I don’t like turning off traction control all day because the car spins in a circle when you try to turn the corner.

 

[RogueIV]

i got all that of which u were saying. It turns off the traction control and the stability control and puts it into launch control. I deemed launch control useless after I cut the brake switch wire to the ECM Launch control only let you go to 1500 RPMs. cutting the brake switch wire aka( burn out switch) let you go to 3000 RPMs before the tires spin, and in all wheel drive all four tires takeoff burning rubber for a tiny bit
But I will go out there today I’ll try launch control with all wheel drive on and see if the back tires will spin out. I don’t like turning off traction control all day because the car spins in a circle when you try to turn the corner.

LOL WAT?

No, I didn't say to use launch control. It's Drift Mode it changes the center diff to put the power to the rear.

A car doesn't just spinout by itself. You shouldn't be depending on Stability control to fix that especially in high performance driving... Regardless, you car has a built in way of going to RWD without pulling fuses, that's what I was getting at.

 

[Ric 'Ochet]

LOL WAT?

No, I didn't say to use launch control. It's Drift Mode it changes the center diff to put the power to the rear.

A car doesn't just spinout by itself. You shouldn't be depending on Stability control to fix that especially in high performance driving... Regardless, you car has a built in way of going to RWD without pulling fuses, that's what I was getting at.

Someone needs to be trained on the advantage of D-AWD. The whole point of having it is to be able to circumnavigate “the fuse pull” to get 100% to the rears with the LSD that comes on the GTS/INDIGO. It puts the power down more efficiently..don’t use launch control, brake boost but make sure everything is turned off..

but what the hell do I know, my cars orange..