Here’s what I thought of my last service appointment...

Sounds like "my" dealership, Jerry Seiner in South Jordan. :thumbup:

I haven't noticed any oil mess. And I've never expected them to vacuum my car: would rather do that myself anyway.
Yeah, it really is better to take care of interior ourselves.
 
The Kia service departments are the only things that give me pause; my wife and I have been considering an AWD GTS but the Louisville Kia dealers aren't exactly confidence inspiring. I've owned BMWs since 1983 and my local dealer has treated me incredibly well; with BMW Car Club discounts service costs are very reasonable. I brought in my 1995 Club Sport for service and was given an M340i for a loaner. Now I don't expect that level of service from a Kia dealer, but I will be beyond furious if every service visit leaves the car covered with oily fingerprints and fluid drips. I really like the GTS, but not at the expense of my blood pressure spiking at every service visit.
 
My recent service visit went OK until I realized on the way home that the tire rotation failed to involve an air pressure adjustment to compensate for the rear to front move. I have 18” square setup and RWD. I adjusted them myself but it was a PITA out in the cold weather. Looks like they put enough oil in this time. Kudos to them. Lol
 
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Sheesh, if I only suffered from some dirty finger marks when dealing with other "premium" manufacturers I'd be in euphoric bliss.
 
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The interesting thing to me is they (KIA) want you to believe this is some 40K sports car and can be compared to some of the German auto manufacturers. But when it comes to service and the look/feel of the dealerships, they have not moved in that direction at all. They still seem to have this appearance they are selling cheap K cars that are disposable more so than drive-able. When I bought my Stinger the finance guy was practically salivating I was buying a ports car from them. But I kindly reminded him, his dealership and showroom did not match the level of expectation a 40K sports car owner may desire. When I got my buying survey in the mail this was the biggest area I hit them with....you gotta step up your dealership game.

I have owned several Lexus' and an Infiniti and this is my first endeavor with KIA. While I do not expect the level of service to match either one of those brands, there should be some level of professionalism to be expected.
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
The interesting thing to me is they (KIA) want you to believe this is some 40K sports car and can be compared to some of the German auto manufacturers. But when it comes to service and the look/feel of the dealerships, they have not moved in that direction at all. They still seem to have this appearance they are selling cheap K cars that are disposable more so than drive-able. When I bought my Stinger the finance guy was practically salivating I was buying a ports car from them. But I kindly reminded him, his dealership and showroom did not match the level of expectation a 40K sports car owner may desire. When I got my buying survey in the mail this was the biggest area I hit them with....you gotta step up your dealership game.

I have owned several Lexus' and an Infiniti and this is my first endeavor with KIA. While I do not expect the level of service to match either one of those brands, there should be some level of professionalism to be expected.

I did visit 3 out of 4 Kia dealers in my city when I was buying in 2018. 2 of them felt like holes in the ground, honestly. The one I bought from, closest to where I live, was a "premium" dealer and it was nicer inside. At least I thought it was as nice as a dealership needs to be. Fast forward to 2020, I've been to both BMW dealerships, they are WAAYYYYY nicer than the nicest Kia dealership, by quite a margin. I think the best way to describe the nicer Kia dealership is probably "claustrophobic." The décor wasn't as modern either, just stark white.

Anyway, just a mention on premium vs non-premium dealerships. In all honesty, I'd be fine with pretty much whatever for a dealership (besides an absolute dump), I'm buying a car and hopefully I don't need to spend much time at the dealership anyway! As long as the car is good, I'm somewhat indifferent to the dealership, but I did now notice there are nice ones lol.
 
Anyway, just a mention on premium vs non-premium dealerships. In all honesty, I'd be fine with pretty much whatever for a dealership (besides an absolute dump), I'm buying a car and hopefully I don't need to spend much time at the dealership anyway! As long as the car is good, I'm somewhat indifferent to the dealership, but I did now notice there are nice ones lol.

Completely agree with you here....I am driving the car a lot more than I am at the dealership and hope that I do not have to visit it often. It's just nice to know when you do HAVE to go to the dealership, they care as much about their dealership as the manufacturer does about the vehicles produced.
 
It is truly sad in my opinion that they can produce a great car like the stinger but they do not address the dealership experience.
I service my GT all of the time myself. It goes to a friend/mechanic shop and everything is done prima donna style. LOL.
Thats just because I like to take care of my stuff and I want it done right.. Period !
I found this open letter to Kia thread and only read the first and the fourth page because it’s sickens me. Now we have this recall that many of us 2019 GT owners are going to have to deal with. It’s not right that I truly fear taking my car to the people that have shown me before, they cannot be trusted. I actually had a Sorrento before the stinger. I serviced that car the same way, on my own. The one time I had to bring that car in for a recall, they washed the car before I picked it up and end result was light scratches all around... I first noticed
one on the drivers door when I retrieved the car. The service manager took the car right in and “almost” polished it out with couple products they had. When I got the car home and looked at it in bright sun, I realized it had multiple tiny scratches on everything. It just disgusted me so bad because the car was perfect before that. I made sure the dealership knew this as it was a lease. I also had them change the oil this one time. I also had oil dripped across the top of the motor. Like the guy was just too lazy to grab a rag...
Nope !! Doesn’t fly with me.
I REALLY hope that Kia is actually digesting this feedback from some of its main clients and soon demonstrates that they are going to aggressively address this issue.
This issue alone is absolutely enough to make me leave the Kia platform all together. The stinger lease is done next year. We will see...
 
It is truly sad in my opinion that they can produce a great car like the stinger but they do not address the dealership experience.
A poll would be useful. Nobody has ever created one (that I ever saw, anyway, i.e. that got any traction). "How do you rate your Kia Stinger service center experience?" 1-20. That would be granular enough to determine 5% gradients.

I would rate my experience 100% thus far. To read all the carping on the forum (bad news travels), you'd think that all of Kia's service centers the world over hire Neanderthals as mechanics and work in caves.
 
The interesting thing to me is they (KIA) want you to believe this is some 40K sports car and can be compared to some of the German auto manufacturers. But when it comes to service and the look/feel of the dealerships, they have not moved in that direction at all. They still seem to have this appearance they are selling cheap K cars that are disposable more so than drive-able.

I wouldn't expect a car showroom to look like a downtrodden motel but the look of it is mainly irrelevant to me. I'll take common sense, honesty, courtesy and knowledgable service techs over aesthetics every time. Over the fence it's not always a land of sunshine and unicorns either, it's dealer specific very much like Kia.

Seen as the Stinger needs servicing regularly I'm sure I'll find out soon :)..!
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
I responded to the ‘tell us about your first service appointment’ survey. Was I neurotic? See below





During my recent service visit, my experience was... Fine, but not up to the standard I was expecting from buying a Stinger GT over a competing German made vehicle.

Not upset, just disappointed. And I have already moved to Ourisman Chantilly from Koons Woodbridge because they’re on a completely different level of disappointment. I don’t want to relocate to Fairfax Kia.

Just a few notes from a Stinger owner;

- A German manufacturer dealership would have used microfiber towels instead of red cotton towels leaving red fibers all over the inside of my car.

- A German manufacturer dealership technician would have worn gloves and kept their hands clean. Maybe then your technician wouldn’t have been wiping up the oil marks left inside my car with a red cotton towel.

- The oil smear on the glove box took forever to remove. I can’t help but feel that a German manufacturer dealership would have completed interior service work before exterior service work. (Obviously my oil was changed before my cabin filter, or your techs are not washing their hands between tickets)

- I had to instruct the service attendant that yes, there is indeed a high-use maintenance schedule detailed in my user manual for first service at 3,000 miles—not 6,000 miles. The same individual told me it took an hour to change the cabin filter AND another hour to remove the frame braces to access the air intake filters (four bolts total), I just smiled. You can’t assume your customers don’t know what their talking about. And if your team doesn’t know what their talking about, the worst thing you could do is fake it. It’s uncomfortable feeling like I know more about my vehicle than the professionals. (This last note is NOT about money or hourly charge rates. I’m happy to pay an hour for 30 minutes of work because the value is in having the YOU do it over doing it myself. The point is your team inspired little confidence that they knew enough about the stinger to be servicing it - and did not project the level of attentiveness and respect that comes with tapping into the luxury performance market dominated by the German manufacturers)

I’m in sales and service. I was conflicted writing this email because I don’t want my name to get around as “that customer”. I understand you have to grease the wheels to get anything done and being unpleasant rarely gets the point across. Please keep this email out of the eyes of the technicians. It was obvious that the tech did lay down those red cotton towels as protection over the open glove box while changing the cabin filter. I know because I had to clean all the red fibers out of the felt lining. But I do appreciate that they were trying.


And thank you to whoever took the time to read this.

Sincerely,
A Proud Kia Stinger GT Owner





I wasn’t expecting and didn’t receive a response except for an automated response email that said to call for any further questions/comments but did not include a phone number. Ha.
Well written. In my experience, I went to 3 different kia dealerships for service/warrenty work. none of the could recreate my problems and told me there was nothing wrong with my car. long story short every problem iIcomplained about I ended up fixing myself or had a private shop do the work.

Kia service technicians definitely are not qualified to work on a vehicle of this caliber. I wont even take it there for an oil change.
 
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