Here’s what I thought of my last service appointment...

BertBert2019GT

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I responded to the ‘tell us about your first service appointment’ survey. Was I neurotic? See below





During my recent service visit, my experience was... Fine, but not up to the standard I was expecting from buying a Stinger GT over a competing German made vehicle.

Not upset, just disappointed. And I have already moved to Ourisman Chantilly from Koons Woodbridge because they’re on a completely different level of disappointment. I don’t want to relocate to Fairfax Kia.

Just a few notes from a Stinger owner;

- A German manufacturer dealership would have used microfiber towels instead of red cotton towels leaving red fibers all over the inside of my car.

- A German manufacturer dealership technician would have worn gloves and kept their hands clean. Maybe then your technician wouldn’t have been wiping up the oil marks left inside my car with a red cotton towel.

- The oil smear on the glove box took forever to remove. I can’t help but feel that a German manufacturer dealership would have completed interior service work before exterior service work. (Obviously my oil was changed before my cabin filter, or your techs are not washing their hands between tickets)

- I had to instruct the service attendant that yes, there is indeed a high-use maintenance schedule detailed in my user manual for first service at 3,000 miles—not 6,000 miles. The same individual told me it took an hour to change the cabin filter AND another hour to remove the frame braces to access the air intake filters (four bolts total), I just smiled. You can’t assume your customers don’t know what their talking about. And if your team doesn’t know what their talking about, the worst thing you could do is fake it. It’s uncomfortable feeling like I know more about my vehicle than the professionals. (This last note is NOT about money or hourly charge rates. I’m happy to pay an hour for 30 minutes of work because the value is in having the YOU do it over doing it myself. The point is your team inspired little confidence that they knew enough about the stinger to be servicing it - and did not project the level of attentiveness and respect that comes with tapping into the luxury performance market dominated by the German manufacturers)

I’m in sales and service. I was conflicted writing this email because I don’t want my name to get around as “that customer”. I understand you have to grease the wheels to get anything done and being unpleasant rarely gets the point across. Please keep this email out of the eyes of the technicians. It was obvious that the tech did lay down those red cotton towels as protection over the open glove box while changing the cabin filter. I know because I had to clean all the red fibers out of the felt lining. But I do appreciate that they were trying.


And thank you to whoever took the time to read this.

Sincerely,
A Proud Kia Stinger GT Owner





I wasn’t expecting and didn’t receive a response except for an automated response email that said to call for any further questions/comments but did not include a phone number. Ha.
 
Out of curiosity, was this written about Ourisman Chantilly Kia?

And I have already moved to Ourisman Chantilly from Koons Woodbridge because they’re on a completely different level of disappointment. I don’t want to relocate to Fairfax Kia.

Are you saying Ourisman Chantilly is on a completely different level of disappointment or Koons Woodbridge is?
 
Koons Woodbridge defines disappointment. They’re awful. Everything from missing interior pieces and sloppy detail work to a complete lack of customer service.

I relocated to Ourisman Chantilly from Koons Woodbridge because originally I was going to buy a stinger from Ourisman, but they just couldn’t match the OTD price that Koons was offering. I was impressed with the Ourisman facilities and customer service through the sales process, so I purchased from Koons and brought my stinger to Ourisman for its first service. Ourisman is also closer.

The letter was written in response to my first service at Ourisman Chantilly. They were pleasant and courteous - but the tech just made an absolute mess in my car and the service rep couldn’t tell the difference between a forte and a stinger.
 
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The letter was written in response to my first service at Ourisman Chantilly. They were pleasant and courteous - but the tech just made an absolute mess in my car and the service rep couldn’t tell the difference between a forte and a stinger.

Really? I am rather surprised. It is no secret that I love Ourisman Kia. Been going to them for Cars & Service for more then 6 years now. Next time you go in for any service, ask for Scott. I can confidently say he will take care of you.
 
Really? I am rather surprised. It is no secret that I love Ourisman Kia. Been going to them for Cars & Service for more then 6 years now. Next time you go in for any service, ask for Scott. I can confidently say he will take care of you.
Thanks! Hopefully Scott can help with my arm rest issue. There is something rattling inside of the center arm rest when it's being opened or closed to access the storage space in the center console. It doesn't happen every time so of course they looked at me like I have a brain tumor when I tried showing the service rep during my last visit, but they said it's normal. I think not. I'm going to record it on video so I can show someone at KIA the video during my next service.
 
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Thanks! Hopefully Scott can help with my arm rest issue. There is something rattling inside of the center arm rest when it's being opened or closed to access the storage space in the center console. It doesn't happen every time so of course they looked at me like I have a brain tumor when I tried showing the service rep during my last visit, but they said it's normal. I think not. I'm going to record it on video so I can show someone at KIA the video during my next service.
Something little and loose under the pad?
So far I am in "honeymoon" mode with my dealer's service department. As with everything else about this new car experience, I scored well on the dealership too. Jerry Seiner of South Jordan.
 
YES! It's like a damn rattle (but only half the time, or every time if nobody else is with me). It's taking all of me to (1) ignore it and (2) not disassemble the entire center console to find what's making the noise -- the car also came with two very small almost un-noticeable scratches in the center console base which in combination is tempting me to replace the entire center console with a new base, KDM cup holder and alcantara arm rest. And that's where I stop and remind myself I'm crazy. I love my stinger and if my only issues are sloppy technicians and center console qwerks, I consider myself very lucky.

Officially getting ZERO work done today.
 
UPDATE:

bahahah I think our local VA dealers maybe perusing the forums because I just got a phone call from KIA Ourisman regarding my letter. AWESOME!
 
UPDATE:

bahahah I think our local VA dealers maybe perusing the forums because I just got a phone call from KIA Ourisman regarding my letter. AWESOME!
I had a similar experience not with bad service on the car but with comments heard on my dash cam from an apprentice nearby to my car. I always check my dash cam after service to see if they drove my car erratically. Fortunately this time they did not. The only issue was a mechanic was heard to infer that I was a fussy ****** and I must have a *hit load of money cause my car looks like it gets detailed every day. I was offended initially but decided to say nothing in case he got told off. I feared retribution on my car if the guy was not fired. He was immature I guess to make such comments but I have kept the footage as leverage. I don’t want to take the car anywhere else for a service as I trust the work they do. I would like to know who told them I was fussy though.
 
UPDATE:

bahahah I think our local VA dealers maybe perusing the forums because I just got a phone call from KIA Ourisman regarding my letter. AWESOME!

If you are open to sharing, are they offering to make things right? I've had similar experiences to yours with the dealerships you've mentioned, and I live somewhat close to you. I'm not sure where I'm willing to go for my next service.
 
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If you are open to sharing, are they offering to make things right? I've had similar experiences to yours with the dealerships you've mentioned, and I live somewhat close to you. I'm not sure where I'm willing to go for my next service.

I was instructed to call and inform the customer service manager who called me this afternoon when I'm ready for my next service so that he could be there to address my concerns personally. We'll see what happens but the phone conversation this afternoon was a positive one, which is always encouraging.

If you live close Snazz, come to cars and coffee tomorrow morning. More info is in the regional forums section
 
I've had similar experiences to yours with the dealerships you've mentioned, and I live somewhat close to you.

Have you tried Ourisman @SnazZ ?
 
I was instructed to call and inform the customer service manager who called me this afternoon when I'm ready for my next service so that he could be there to address my concerns personally. We'll see what happens but the phone conversation this afternoon was a positive one, which is always encouraging.

If you live close Snazz, come to cars and coffee tomorrow morning. More info is in the regional forums section

Thanks for the invite. I didn't see it until just now. I'll try to make it next Saturday.
 
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Update - Beyond disappointed.

The Good-ish:

I went in for my second service (6k because high use maintenance schedule). I met with Jeremy as instructed. We inspected my car inside and out. We reviewed the noise my arm rest makes and then compared it to a showroom Stinger. The showroom Stinger arm rest made a similar but less exaggerated noise. I decided it wasn’t worth replacing if there was a chance the same noise persist with the replacement arm rest.

The Bad;

I walk out to my car and there’s oil dripping down my passenger fender. I touch it because I think to myself there’s no way it’s oil, probably windshield washing fluid...nope. Oil.

I go inside to get Jeremy. He gets a microfiber cloth but it just smears it around. I don’t let him use a shammy and tell him that I’ll clean in at home with personal products.

I check the oil, it seems over filled (oil well above the indicator bar on dip stick). Jeremy goes back to ask the service tech and verifies the tech filled 7.3 liters + additives. Okay.

I race home to clean everything. Upon further inspection there’s fuel additive dripping down out of the fuel door and literally dirt in the glove box (I had them install K&N cabin filter).

I sent Jeremy an email after I finished cleaning everything. Is this the norm? I was an auto tech for a few summers growing up and I know I could get all of the oil into the engine.

I want all of my maintenance documented with KIA but this is frustrating. Very frustrating.
 
Mine can't even inflate tires correctly were at 48psi and when I comforted them with it they didn't seem to care.
 
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And here’s a copy of my follow up email after cleaning everything:


Hey Jeremy,

I understand you told your technician to be careful but he wasn’t.

Here’s some pictures of the fuel additive dripping down out of the gas tank door and (I can’t imagine HOW) dirt in the glovebox when I removed the items in the glove box to check the K&N filter was installed. I also included pictures of the oil dripping down the front fender and oil on the engine cover for record. I don’t have pictures of it but there were palm prints all over both of the side mirror chrome covers like someone was leaning on the mirrors (both of them)

[pictures were included here in email]

I appreciate your attention to this matter. If it’s possible to schedule specific times for service in which to have a senior technician who cares about their trade to service my car please let me know.

Thanks,
Rob

Sent from my iPhone
 
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I just do not know what to say at this point. I am so very sorry about this. I am planning to stop by there tomorrow, and Scott should be back from vaca by then.

I hate that this is how your Stinger came back to you after service.
 
I LOVE my stinger. I look at my stinger like it’s a La Ferrari. I know everyone else doesn’t see it in a similar light but please KIA stop treating it like a La Forte.

Jeremy was fine. I’d say great but I’m too disappointed in the actual service to feel comfortable describing any part of my experience as great.

Jeremy knew when to listen and when to talk - IMO a rare trait in customer service of late. However, the manager can say everything he’s supposed to say to the technician but at the end of the day if the KIA tech doesn’t have an F to give, all is lost.
 
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Update - Beyond disappointed.

The Good-ish:

I went in for my second service (6k because high use maintenance schedule). I met with Jeremy as instructed. We inspected my car inside and out. We reviewed the noise my arm rest makes and then compared it to a showroom Stinger. The showroom Stinger arm rest made a similar but less exaggerated noise. I decided it wasn’t worth replacing if there was a chance the same noise persist with the replacement arm rest.

The Bad;

I walk out to my car and there’s oil dripping down my passenger fender. I touch it because I think to myself there’s no way it’s oil, probably windshield washing fluid...nope. Oil.

I go inside to get Jeremy. He gets a microfiber cloth but it just smears it around. I don’t let him use a shammy and tell him that I’ll clean in at home with personal products.

I check the oil, it seems over filled (oil well above the indicator bar on dip stick). Jeremy goes back to ask the service tech and verifies the tech filled 7.3 liters + additives. Okay.

I race home to clean everything. Upon further inspection there’s fuel additive dripping down out of the fuel door and literally dirt in the glove box (I had them install K&N cabin filter).

I sent Jeremy an email after I finished cleaning everything. Is this the norm? I was an auto tech for a few summers growing up and I know I could get all of the oil into the engine.

I want all of my maintenance documented with KIA but this is frustrating. Very frustrating.
Unfreakingbelievable. One "little" error I can see as human imperfection of a tech having a bad day. But that is a damned LIST of crap. I hope that you get results as you roast this tech. If you don't get satisfaction, I wonder how Kia's premier service hotline would respond if you called them and emailed these pics, etc.
 
45EF9ABB-147D-44A8-8AE1-5DEFF26B7D3F.webp BBBFD983-F407-4BCD-A52A-1D2F91AEB951.webp And my door pillar is scratched. I don’t touch this part of the car and nobody drives is but me. I am beside myself. Hopefully my detail guy car get these out and re-apply the ceramic coating.

Pictures from after cleaning the area for full assessment. Did this tech have metal dust in his fingers?!
 
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