Heard a rumor today about mpg issues

[Never thought]

If this isn't just a Kia Motors "America" issue there's also the tens of thousands of other Stingers in Asia, Europe, and Australia to consider.

But the EPA and their MPG calculation are only in America

 

[eflyguy]

But the EPA and their MPG calculation are only in America

Correct. The credit for 2011-2013 models was US only (as best as I can determine)..

 

[CaliSting]

Watching as I already have 16000 miles on my GT2. I’d love Kia to pay for my gas!

 

[eflyguy]

16,000 miles at 21mpg should have consumed 760 gallons but instead consumed 800. That's ~40 gallons difference, at an average of $2.50 over the period of ownership - here's your $100 check. Have a nice meal.

 

[SteveCo]

Correct. The credit for 2011-2013 models was US only (as best as I can determine)..

Canada and the US.

 

[CaliSting]

16,000 miles at 21mpg should have consumed 760 gallons but instead consumed 800. That's ~40 gallons difference, at an average of $2.50 over the period of ownership - here's your $100 check. Have a nice meal.

Damn need to move to Goergia . 91 premium is $3.50 gal here in Cali.

 

[MerlintheMad]

At Costco the other day, 91 Premium was $2.50. Or was it $2.55?

 

[eflyguy]

I paid $2.19..

 

[Kamauxx]

I saw 89 octane a few days ago for $1.98.

 

[TwiceStung]

Premium here is $3.00-3.50. I can drive in almost any direction an hour (usually south or east) and get it for at least 50-60 cents less. Pisses me off.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Let me do the math...

I have 4,000 miles on my car.
4000/21MPG = 190.48 Gallons
4000/20MPG = 200.00 Gallons
190.48 - 200 = 9.52 Gallon difference.
$3/Ga = $28.56 owed to me, by KMA (Kia Motors America) for the incorrect mileage.

$28.56 X 17,000 Kia Stingers = $485,520 in checks cut for a 1MPG error...

Escalated quickly huh? Somebody is in the hot seat today.

(I don't own 17,000 Stingers, but you get the point lol)

The more I thought about this, the more absurd it becomes. Kia isn't going to cut cheques based on individual mpg discrepancies. That would only encourage hog wild Sport mode gas guzzling, to increase the mpg difference. Only at the EPA level is any sort of group compensation going to happen if anything happens at all.

 

[JustThatPenguin]

I've been getting 13.5mpg. Always in sport mode...

 

[YEH]

If this isn't just a Kia Motors "America" issue there's also the tens of thousands of other Stingers in Asia, Europe, and Australia to consider.

But the EPA and their MPG calculation are only in America

Correct. The credit for 2011-2013 models was US only (as best as I can determine)..

This.

BMW also had to lower their MPG rating for their turbo-4 some years ago (turbo motors seems to play havoc w/ the EPA rating system); Ford's EcoBoost has, in particular, been problematic.

 

[TwiceStung]

You can end this thread now since there will be no compensation coming from anywhere on this topic. That is the pipe dream of all pipe dreams.

 

[Kamauxx]

You can end this thread now since there will be no compensation coming from anywhere on this topic. That is the pipe dream of all pipe dreams.

I really had my heart set on that Applebee's meal.

 

[eflyguy]

I really had my heart set on that Applebee's meal.

I'm happy to send you $2 so you can supersize your lunch tomorrow...

 

[Johnman]

My previous car was a Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. The sticker said 45/45 mpg, but it got more like 35mpg tops. Out of the blue, I got a $1000 check from Lincoln as part of a class-action lawsuit based on the unrealistic claim. Thanks, Lincoln! So it can happen.

 

[TwiceStung]

I'm happy to send you $2 so you can supersize your lunch tomorrow...

I’ll throw in $2 as well.

 

[MerlintheMad]

My previous car was a Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. The sticker said 45/45 mpg, but it got more like 35mpg tops. Out of the blue, I got a $1000 check from Lincoln as part of a class-action lawsuit based on the unrealistic claim. Thanks, Lincoln! So it can happen.

So a 10 MPH discrepancy awards $1000. Kia will send $100 to everyone in the US/Canada for the 1 MPH discrepancy. But only if you join the class action.

 

[CaliSting]

My previous car was a Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. The sticker said 45/45 mpg, but it got more like 35mpg tops. Out of the blue, I got a $1000 check from Lincoln as part of a class-action lawsuit based on the unrealistic claim. Thanks, Lincoln! So it can happen.

That would be awesome! I could use $1000 bucks. I’m sure some lawyer somewhere will kick off a class action on this one. Federal and state governments also seem to get their pound of flesh from car manufactures who make false claims as well. One of things that surprised me was the dismal fuel economy that a 3.3 T returns in a sedan that is fairly areo dynamic and running skinny tires.