Jun Bl and ssr call them downpipes but yes they are more of a mid pipe for sure. I still have primary’s so no check engine lights. The good thing about the jun Ian it comes with a resonated x pipe that kills any raspy metal sounds you can get from deleting the secondary’s. If you also deleted the primary’s you would probably get rasp and also over boost issues but I jb4 can stop the over boost and check engine light. I’m really happy with my setup right now. I have jun exhaust, k&n panel filters, jb4 and stock plugs gapped down. With a flip of a switch and turning the jb4 to stock mode car feels just like stock you would never know it has
mods. But with the valves open and jb4 on the car is making way more power and pulls very hard. I made 375whp on map 2 on a mustang dyno. That’s like 420-430whp on a dyno jet so around 450-465 crank hp only on map 2 probably making close to 500 on the higher settings.