Eibach's springs & sway bar kit soft setting.....sucks!!

[Dochidalgo]

I am planning to buy the set, front and rear. Just put rear and drive it for few months, then put front and decide if I really want front. If not then would sell it.

The better quality of the roads and speed bumps in your country, makes you don't require the progressive springs, my guess...
But in my country, is the oposite. I installed these springs because performance, not aesthetics....and I get the improvement that I was looking for my suspension car. Months later installed the Eibachs sway bars like a combo, designed surely, to improve the heavy Stinger suspension performance, but unfortunately, and in the daily driving, in my case, I did not get the covet suspension improvement on curves.
I have understood that Stinger model has different exhaust (more noisy for America/Canada than Europe /Latin America), no Navi, no lane assist, no high beam "wathever" features in Latin America, so no would be unlikely that the suspension will also be different....

 

[Never thought]

The better quality of the roads and speed bumps in your country, makes you don't require the progressive springs, my guess...
But in my country, is the oposite. I installed these springs because performance, not aesthetics....and I get the improvement that I was looking for my suspension car. Months later installed the Eibachs sway bars like a combo, designed surely, to improve the heavy Stinger suspension performance, but unfortunately, and in the daily driving, in my case, I did not get the covet suspension improvement on curves.
I have understood that Stinger model has different exhaust (more noisy for America/Canada than Europe /Latin America), no Navi, no lane assist, no high beam "wathever" features in Latin America, so no would be unlikely that the suspension will also be different....

I believe the suspension was tuned differently for Australia. May be tubed differently for Mexico too.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Did you notice any change in the ride quality?

None. That was my main concern: I value the Stinger's comfort and performance combo/compromise. The Eibach rear sway bar on "soft" feels just as smooth and comfortable as the OEM sway bar ride. The difference is in the feeling while pushing a corner, which is exactly what I was interested in improving, while keeping the comfortable ride.

 

[Ozstung]

I think two guys one with only springs and another with only sways compared by switching car and driving it. The spring guy said sways made more difference. I think sways should be first mod than springs, because it keeps cars original ride height so doesn't affect dynamics. Sways are much simpler to install as well.

Guilty. Myself and Stinger gtss took our cars (mine with the eibach springs and his with and rear eibach sways) down a local to me mountain one way 1-6 road.

We didn't hold back I could compare the springs from standard as I know the road well, we then tried his car with the sways only , very precise and planted less role and the speed we carried through was greater. The sways only had a more confident feel in the cornering and the back didn't twitch. My springs handled slightly better than standard, less digging into the corners is what I noticed, they appeared firmer.

Edit: I think those guys may be never tried or fully compared Sway only upgrade compared to spring only upgrade. I would say you try both if possible.

Wrong we did.

I saw his post. I'm looking for experienced feedback rather than theoretical. Theoretically we know what these after market springs and sway bars are suppose to do. Now tell me about real feedback. The OP says they suck, which is fine. Want to hear other's experience.

I think you're better off paying someone for "real" feedback.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Guilty. Myself and Stinger gtss took our cars (mine with the eibach springs and his with and rear eibach sways) down a local to me mountain one way 1-6 road.

We didn't hold back I could compare the springs from standard as I know the road well, we then tried his car with the sways only , very precise and planted less role and the speed we carried through was greater. The sways only had a more confident feel in the cornering and the back didn't twitch. My springs handled slightly better than standard, less digging into the corners is what I noticed, they appeared firmer.

Edit: I think those guys may be never tried or fully compared Sway only upgrade compared to spring only upgrade. I would say you try both if possible.[/QUOTE
Wrong we did.
I think you're better off paying someone for "real" feedback.

Totally agree @Ozstung & for the exercise both front & rear Eibach Sway Bars are on the “softest” setting.

 

[Ruturaj]

Wrong we did.

Off course I know you guys did and that's what I said in my original post. In edit part, by 'they' I meant the guys 'Never thought' was talking about in the post I quoted. Otherwise it would seem like I am contradicting my self. But I understood how I screwed up clarifying .

@MerlintheMad there are plenty of people on this forum that say the Eibach springs improved the ride and improved handling dramatically. Some said they didn’t see the point of sway bars in addition. I am getting my springs on this week so I’ll report back.

Edit: and thank you again for original post where you compared both.

 

[MerlintheMad]

This discussion is crossing over two threads now: Here's what I said about last night's very small diversion: Eibach Rear Sway Bar Impressions

 

[Ruturaj]

I saw his post. I'm looking for experienced feedback rather than theoretical. Theoretically we know what these after market springs and sway bars are suppose to do. Now tell me about real feedback. The OP says they suck, which is fine. Want to hear other's experience.

I think when OP said they suck he meant that even after upgrade it wasn't enough for him. The link MerlintheMad shared has lots of post that gives real feedback. Also best way to judge is to drive someones car with it.

 

[Dochidalgo]

My car's supension issue solved !...at last...
My trusted mechanic with 25 years of suspension experience in a local tire shop returned from a trip and I could contact him.
In the absence of a alignment machine with the Stinger specs at 200 kms around, with my mechanic expertise and the popular mechanic's (tantiómetro) "try-o-meter", he could diagnosed that the driver's rear wheel have a lightly bad toe, confirming it with the tire tread. He adjust the toe knobs guided by OEM yellow marks of both wheels. That will not replace an alignment on a machine, of course.
Then we went for a ride and I feel the car with a better behavior taking the curve described initially but I did not feel confy and control yet.
So, following the positive feedback from @TwinSnails and @MerlintheMad, he change only the rear bar setting to firm... and voilà....the car felt in control like riding on rails taking that curve safely...

I hope my experience serves other fellow members

 

[MerlintheMad]

I love success stories. So your front sway has been "soft" the whole time?

 

[TwinSnails]

@Dochidalgo good deal!!!

 

[Dochidalgo]

I love success stories. So your front sway has been "soft" the whole time?

Yes, Sir....

@Dochidalgo good deal!!!

Thanks to you......

 

[Kazz]

My car's supension issue solved !...at last...
My trusted mechanic with 25 years of suspension experience in a local tire shop returned from a trip and I could contact him.
In the absence of a alignment machine with the Stinger specs at 200 kms around, with my mechanic expertise and the popular mechanic's (tantiómetro) "try-o-meter", he could diagnosed that the driver's rear wheel have a lightly bad toe, confirming it with the tire tread. He adjust the toe knobs guided by OEM yellow marks of both wheels. That will not replace an alignment on a machine, of course.
Then we went for a ride and I feel the car with a better behavior taking the curve described initially but I did not feel confy and control yet.
So, following the positive feedback from @TwinSnails and @MerlintheMad, he change only the rear bar setting to firm... and voilà....the car felt in control like riding on rails taking that curve safely...

I hope my experience serves other fellow members

Adds some potential weight to installing the rear (soft) and leaving the front stock. But I understand wanting it all stiffer, therefore using rear at stiff and front at soft.

 

[Dochidalgo]

Adds some potential weight to installing the rear (soft) and leaving the front stock. But I understand wanting it all stiffer, therefore using rear at stiff and front at soft.

Yesterday I made a 75-mile road shopping trip with 3 adult passengers/me and I can not be more satisfied with the performance of the car suspension, not only in the corners (not very closed except one of them at 90 ° with less speed) to 140-150 km / hr with the sway bars (front soft, rear stiff) but with the progressive springs with the lowered car, 4 adults and the shopping bags......"as on rails" really.

 

[Never thought]

Got my Eibach springs installed... OMG! Ha. Handling is a night and day improvement and it’s even less harsh over road imperfections. Noticeably better than stock. Not sure how it’s possible but it is. LOVE this mod.

 

[Ozstung]

Seems like im going to have to get them eibach sways to add to them there springs i have.

Im not to fazed about the price of the sways its the its the installation price that concerns me. Anyone know what the amount of time it takes in hours to install both bars. Its $90-$100 an hour down here!

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Seems like im going to have to get them eibach sways to add to them there springs i have.

Im not to fazed about the price of the sways its the its the installation price that concerns me. Anyone know what the amount of time it takes in hours to install both bars. Its $90-$100 an hour down here!

Travis @ GWK quoted 2 to 2.5hrs for Front & Rear, I believe mine was the first they did, call them for a quote.

 

[Ozstung]

Thanks mate, thats right forgot about Gwk

 

[MerlintheMad]

Seems like im going to have to get them eibach sways to add to them there springs i have.

Im not to fazed about the price of the sways its the its the installation price that concerns me. Anyone know what the amount of time it takes in hours to install both bars. Its $90-$100 an hour down here!

Eibach Rear Sway Bar Impressions
I was done in just over an hour for the rear bar only.

 

[Ozstung]

Well theres so many Eibach threads I can't remember where i posted last. Lol.

Second day review of Eibach front & rear sway bars on soft setting. Last post I posted about being slightly underwhelmed about the sways. Well today I did one side of the Blue mountains to the other with my junior expert in his normal back seat position. His 13 year old stance " An improvement especially the rear, not as much dip and wobble."

My take, front turns in better but my confidence levels haven't risen I get the feeling the car now tends to want to go straight ahead. Under force theres a sensation that the back wants to come around. But not as evident as before.

Back feels more planted, front could use some improvement.

Heavy exhilaration from stand still with steering off centre by any amount and theres still that violent waggle but moderately reduced. This may not be the sways to blame? I heard it's the diff quirk.

Money well spent? possibly not, but theres still the harder setting to try.