3.3TT Eibach sway bar both or just rear for AWD Stinger

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As per some youtube videos I saw, the rear end of the ar tends to lift in corners. And rear sway bar made a ton of difference on the car. Following are the details that are taken from Mr. Skillet's thread.

OE Size and bar rate (increase vs stock rate)

Front: 23mm 263 lb/in

Rear: 16mm 114 lb/in

Eibach Size and Bar Rate

Front 25mm adjustable: Soft 366 lb/in (+39%), stiff 398 lb/in (+51%)

Rear 19mm adjustable: Soft 201 lb/in (+76%), stiff 244 lb/in (+114%)

I am planning to just change rear and keep it in a Soft setting. Will it be a bad idea since rear will be 76% stiffer while front being same?
 
I feel like the rear lifts since the front is so much stiffer. With a rear sway bar on soft it should be more neutral which is good for daily driving/wet and snow. It may be the route to go especially you're in Canada with crappy winters. Remeber the idea is to stiffen up the rear a bit while still being able to handle snow and wet roads.
 
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Just bumping the thread.

I am getting my stinger tomorrow. Will decide about ordering one or both bars soon.
 
I have RWD, had front & rear fitted with Soft setting last Thursday so far extremely happy with the result.
 
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How do the rear sway bars in the GT2 AWD affect the comfort of the ride?
 
A stabilizer/anti-sway bar should not affect ride quality. Ride quality is determined mostly by effective spring rate, damping, and unsprung weight.
 
A stabilizer/anti-sway bar should not affect ride quality. Ride quality is determined mostly by effective spring rate, damping, and unsprung weight.
Good to know. I probably won't put them on, but if I ever decide to take a corner like a bat out of hell, it might come in handy :-)
 
How do the rear sway bars in the GT2 AWD affect the comfort of the ride?

They kinda make the ride little rough as they connect both wheels, so suppose somewhere where both wheels move up and down in sync, it will be same with OEM/Factory/No sway bars. When only one wheel moves up and down it will be using spring/dampers on side and partially of other side because of sway bar. Now in seconds case ride quality will get affected but marginally.
 
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They kinda make the ride little rough as they connect both wheels, so suppose somewhere where both wheels move up and down in sync, it will be same with OEM/Factory/No sway bars. When only one wheel moves up and down it will be using spring/dampers on side and partially of other side because of sway bar. Now in seconds case ride quality will get affected but marginally.
I am pretty sure my stinger gt2 awd came with front and rear anti roll bars.
And I just looked up a gt2 awd in VA that also comes with them. Do they not all come with them?
 
I am pretty sure my stinger gt2 awd came with front and rear anti roll bars.
And I just looked up a gt2 awd in VA that also comes with them. Do they not all come with them?

Start here:

All cars come with them, eibach ones are thicker, read the first post for details.
 
Start here:

All cars come with them, eibach ones are thicker, read the first post for details.
So the thicker they are, the less roll. I'm not having the problem but others are so I was just curious.
 
So the thicker they are, the less roll. I'm not having the problem but others are so I was just curious.

Drive it for some time then after few (1-3) months try driving someone's with thicker sways. If you like it go for it, if you don't then don't.
 
Most vehicles come with anti-sway bars. There are some that have only the front. In the case of the Stinger, I believe all trims come with bars for the front and for the rear suspensions. The Eibach parts are considered an upgrade or a way to increase roll stiffness which is not necessarily for everyone. The resulting increased sharpness, as in more rapid roll transition, while changing direction could be construed as a change in ride quality.
 
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I must say I am a little surprised by the lack of suspension knowledge by most Stinger owners here. For having a fast sporty car, most people don't know the great benefits of larger sway bars. But have no fear, Harry is here :D

General rule of thumb: Slightly larger Sway Bars = A VERY GOOD thing! :) Going from 15mm to 19mm is not a huge change for such a heavy car. For my old 2,400 pound Civic it was (and it was exactly the same going from 15 to 19mm) and it handled awesome after the upgrade, but for a 4,000+ pound car not so much, but it will still help button down the car and make it turn with less body roll and more composed, and I think you will all like it.

Has anyone here complained about installing an Eibach sway bar or both on their Stinger? I 'd be surprised if they did. If they did, the bar was most likely installed incorrectly, ie: without pre-loading (without doing the final tightening of the bolts with a loaded suspension). Some so called "mechanics" out there are inexperienced, so make sure all the final torquing is done with the weight of the car on the wheels! Get the work done at a shop that has a rack you can drive the car on.

PS.
Rear sway bars do not connect to the wheels as someone mentioned. In most cars they connect to the lower control arms (LCA) via the end links. The LCA's of course move vertically as the wheels go over bumps and when cornering, but are also aided by the sway bar which reduces that vertical movement. Lateral forces are also exerted on the LCA's which is overlooked by some. A bigger sway bar helps minimize some of the lateral forces on the LCA's as well. It reinforces the LCA's resulting in the reduction of lateral forces (helps the inner LCA bushing too), and vertical movement at the same time, which of course is the big one and what minimizes body roll. This all translates in better handling, ie: more tire contact with the ground, taking corners and sweepers at faster speeds, and quicker transitions, faster lane changes, etc. You should also experience less steering input which is another benefit of bigger "properly sized" sway bars.

The only time bigger sway bars are going to have an adverse effect is if you go too BIG. The car might have snap-oversteer, or more understeer (pushing/plowing), at which time you will need to upgrade other suspension components, or add a bigger or smaller bar to the front, or go with a smaller rear bar, etc. 15 to 19mm in the rear is a mild-moderate upgrade and should be nothing but beneficial to a 4k lb car, especially one like the Stinger GT that feels a little sloppy and has too much going on in the back during spirited cornering. If anything a bigger rear sway bar helps prevent rolling your tires' sidewall upon hard cornering, and makes the tires last longer and wear more evenly.
 
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Most people are not in depth car guys. If they buy a vehicle and it works for what they want it for, that's all they need. And I've only had one other sporty car in my life...for like two years. Almost all my vehicles have been practical family vehicles (and a lot of trucks living in the Dakotas for 17 years)
 
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True, most people aren't. I just thought this might be like the old Honda, Integra and S2000 forums I used to frequent since the Stinger is a sub-5 sec. car 0-60 and also people here are talking about modifying them :) Don't worry I have figured out that the majority of Stinger owners are not gear heads :D But I am here to educate if anyone wants to learn! :)
 
I must say I am a little surprised by the lack of suspension knowledge by most Stinger owners here. For having a fast sporty car, most people don't know the great benefits of larger sway bars. But have no fear, Harry is here :D

General rule of thumb: Slightly larger Sway Bars = A VERY GOOD thing! :) Going from 15mm to 19mm is not a huge change for such a heavy car. For my old 2,400 pound Civic it was (and it was exactly the same going from 15 to 19mm) and it handled awesome after the upgrade, but for a 4,000+ pound car not so much, but it will still help button down the car and make it turn with less body roll and more composed, and I think you will all like it.

Has anyone here complained about installing an Eibach sway bar or both on their Stinger? I 'd be surprised if they did. If they did, the bar was most likely installed incorrectly, ie: without pre-loading (without doing the final tightening of the bolts with a loaded suspension). Some so called "mechanics" out there are inexperienced, so make sure all the final torquing is done with the weight of the car on the wheels! Get the work done at a shop that has a rack you can drive the car on.

PS.
Rear sway bars do not connect to the wheels as someone mentioned. In most cars they connect to the lower control arms (LCA) via the end links. The LCA's of course move vertically as the wheels go over bumps and when cornering, but are also aided by the sway bar which reduces that vertical movement. Lateral forces are also exerted on the LCA's which is overlooked by some. A bigger sway bar helps minimize some of the lateral forces on the LCA's as well. It reinforces the LCA's resulting in the reduction of lateral forces (helps the inner LCA bushing too), and vertical movement at the same time, which of course is the big one and what minimizes body roll. This all translates in better handling, ie: more tire contact with the ground, taking corners and sweepers at faster speeds, and quicker transitions, faster lane changes, etc. You should also experience less steering input which is another benefit of bigger "properly sized" sway bars.

The only time bigger sway bars are going to have an adverse effect is if you go too BIG. The car might have snap-oversteer, or more understeer (pushing/plowing), at which time you will need to upgrade other suspension components, or add a bigger or smaller bar to the front, or go with a smaller rear bar, etc. 15 to 19mm in the rear is a mild-moderate upgrade and should be nothing but beneficial to a 4k lb car, especially one like the Stinger GT that feels a little sloppy and has too much going on in the back during spirited cornering. If anything a bigger rear sway bar helps prevent rolling your tires' sidewall upon hard cornering, and makes the tires last longer and wear more evenly.
Great write up & explanation on the benefits of fitting aftermarket uprated Sway Bars on the Stinger @only1harry , I have the Eibach front & rears fitted to my RWD GT here in OZ & this is exactly the reason I fitted these & they perform exactly as you state, this is by far the best & most economical mod you can do to the Stinger for improved handling, thanks again, well written.
 
Agreed, and the first mod I always do, and what I recommend others do before shocks/springs, or going crazy spending too much $ on coilovers, and lowering their car too much which can cause bushings to wear out prematurely, bottoming out, changing their car's dynamics, or worsen the ride, etc. Sway bar upgrades is the best suspension mod for the $ and sometimes it's all you need (for the street), depending what you are doing with the car. It is also the mod that affects the ride and comfort the least, but rewards you with noticeably improved handling.
 
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