3.3TT Eibach sway bar both or just rear for AWD Stinger

[Stinger GT SS]

im in oz too and seeing our setup is a little different here i have a quick question.Did you find the front bar effected ride quality much . i want to do the rear but i rarley drive around with dampers set to sport .Just trying to stabilize that funky rear end without making ride too much firmer

IMO I didn’t feel it effected the ride quality at all, I also rarely drive in sport & I feel that this upgrade has firmed up the car’s handling & made it more predictable & precise when cornering.

 

[jazzdabb]

I could have written this.

Have felt the same about several of your posts, my friend. This is a great community! I'm learning A LOT.

 

[Bonzai]

Just test drove AWD with rear only on hard setting and LIKED it - no extra roughness and more controllable through corners with the rear

Tires are on their last legs and will replace after the summer. Going to install fronts on soft setting and will report back later today but so far the rear is a no brainer!

 

[RedCal]

I would like to hear more details.... my bars are arriving tomorrow and I was going to do soft all the way around, and stiffen if I did feel enough of an improvement.... I don't have the facilities / tools to change myself so if I can avoid an extra trip to the shop that would be great!

 

[Dieselxx]

I just installed the front and rear on AWD last week. I must say the car feels tighter in cornering. It's also a smidge stiffer going in a straight line over bumps. I notice it the wifey doesn't.
Both bars are set on soft.
I don't notice a difference between comfort and sport suspension, but I never did before either.
Install was about 2hrs from a competent mechanic. Front was easy, rear a bit tight but doable with the right tools and wheels removed. It's a very nice upgrade and I recommend. Feel like the car should have come this way from the factory.

The only issue I worry about is having to eventually grease the bushings in the rear. Most aftermarket sway bars I've encountered always needed a greasing at least once a year after squeaking.

 

[RedCal]

Mine arrived today...my big issue is now finding someone to install them... everyone I called is booked for weeks, and a few dealers who won't install them!

 

[Bonzai]

Very happy with both installed I was concerned with that the front but doesn't have a big affect on the ride. I have the Mando in sport which has a bigger impact I think. But for corning feel and agression this wins as others have said. 100% recommend it's still nice in sport mode.

Going out for another drive

 

[jzjunkie]

What city and state are you in? It might help later if you can put those details in your profile. Thanks.
Just wondering how the 2020 model compares to the earlier 2018 model as far as handling is concerned. Have you noticed any wallowing or twitching at the back with yours or has it been too early to tell? I'm lead to believe 2019 models onward may have had their suspension tuned differently.

I have a 2 week old 2020 and the rear is definitely funky. i have ordered rear bar only at this stage .Mostly good roads (Newcastle area NSW) but plenty of crap roads around .I drove a 2018 a while back and did notice that the 2020 seemed a lot more confident than the 2018 i drove .But i put that down to the pilot sports .
Having said that i drove a 2020 with 20" and falken tyres I cant remember which falken but they where a higher end one it did corner a little better and had less road noise .But the ride was a little bumpier .I didnt push it hard enough to a fair tyre comparision but rear end was a little less funky

 

[JJay]

Hi all. another mod I've been looking at. just to give it that extra bit of stiffness. So surprised it's not an optional extra from new at the dealers. can we buy them from the stinger shop?

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Hi all. another mod I've been looking at. just to give it that extra bit of stiffness. So surprised it's not an optional extra from new at the dealers. can we buy them from the stinger shop?

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[sccarlyle]

I must say I am a little surprised by the lack of suspension knowledge by most Stinger owners here. For having a fast sporty car, most people don't know the great benefits of larger sway bars. But have no fear, Harry is here

General rule of thumb: Slightly larger Sway Bars = A VERY GOOD thing! Going from 15mm to 19mm is not a huge change for such a heavy car. For my old 2,400 pound Civic it was (and it was exactly the same going from 15 to 19mm) and it handled awesome after the upgrade, but for a 4,000+ pound car not so much, but it will still help button down the car and make it turn with less body roll and more composed, and I think you will all like it.

Has anyone here complained about installing an Eibach sway bar or both on their Stinger? I 'd be surprised if they did. If they did, the bar was most likely installed incorrectly, ie: without pre-loading (without doing the final tightening of the bolts with a loaded suspension). Some so called "mechanics" out there are inexperienced, so make sure all the final torquing is done with the weight of the car on the wheels! Get the work done at a shop that has a rack you can drive the car on.

PS.
Rear sway bars do not connect to the wheels as someone mentioned. In most cars they connect to the lower control arms (LCA) via the end links. The LCA's of course move vertically as the wheels go over bumps and when cornering, but are also aided by the sway bar which reduces that vertical movement. Lateral forces are also exerted on the LCA's which is overlooked by some. A bigger sway bar helps minimize some of the lateral forces on the LCA's as well. It reinforces the LCA's resulting in the reduction of lateral forces (helps the inner LCA bushing too), and vertical movement at the same time, which of course is the big one and what minimizes body roll. This all translates in better handling, ie: more tire contact with the ground, taking corners and sweepers at faster speeds, and quicker transitions, faster lane changes, etc. You should also experience less steering input which is another benefit of bigger "properly sized" sway bars.

The only time bigger sway bars are going to have an adverse effect is if you go too BIG. The car might have snap-oversteer, or more understeer (pushing/plowing), at which time you will need to upgrade other suspension components, or add a bigger or smaller bar to the front, or go with a smaller rear bar, etc. 15 to 19mm in the rear is a mild-moderate upgrade and should be nothing but beneficial to a 4k lb car, especially one like the Stinger GT that feels a little sloppy and has too much going on in the back during spirited cornering. If anything a bigger rear sway bar helps prevent rolling your tires' sidewall upon hard cornering, and makes the tires last longer and wear more evenly.

Would you recommend front and rear or just rear sway bars?

 

[RedCal]

I just did both, and can say that the front makes the steering feel much more responsive, (which I love) so if you are very happy with the turn in the way it is now, you can probably skip the front.... But my recommendation would be to do both

 

[Andy C]

Would you recommend front and rear or just rear sway bars?

See my post a bit back. Short answer is both.

 

[Snowwhite]

I just did both, and can say that the front makes the steering feel much more responsive, (which I love) so if you are very happy with the turn in the way it is now, you can probably skip the front.... But my recommendation would be to do both

I agree, with a disclaimer- mine’s RWD. I purchased both bars (ARK) and installed the rear only on soft and took the car for a spin. Car was a little more willing to rotate, but not much else of an improvement. Installed the front on soft the next day, and the improvement in turn-in and body roll was very noticeable. I’m going to drive it like this a bit and next weekend I’ll pop the rear on hard to see the difference.

so, long story short, if you can swing buying and installing both, do it.

rear wasn’t THAT bad to install, took me less than 2 hours. Getting that one bolt by the fuel line off was a hassle, but the rest were fairly easy. I used a multi-hinged ratchet to get to the bolts. Front was cake.

 

[ghodge]

Snowwhite, I’m a little confused. You said you installed the Ark bars on “soft”. I thought they have only one hole. Did the design change?

 

[Snowwhite]

Snowwhite, I’m a little confused. You said you installed the Ark bars on “soft”. I thought they have only one hole. Did the design change?

There are two holes on each side. Closest to end is soft, inside one is firm.

 

[ghodge]

Nice! Where did you order them from?

Thanks,

George

 

[Buzz]

Had only the front on previously, engine was definitely kept level in turns but the handling was completely wrong. Got the rear on last week (Gave in and paid someone) then drove through the blue ridge parkway and tail of the dragon for a week and it really really really felt perfect. Do both, set both to stiff, don't overthink it.

Review from the wife "I would normally be getting sick right now, but it feels really stable, it stays flat!"

 

[Brews]

I just did both, and can say that the front makes the steering feel much more responsive, (which I love) so if you are very happy with the turn in the way it is now, you can probably skip the front.... But my recommendation would be to do both

Did you try just the rear initially? I would like a much crisper turn-in response and wondering if just the rear would help or if both are required. Also, for those using the Mando, does that unit -either by itself or with one or both sways - affect turn-in response positively?

 

[MerlintheMad]

I would like a much crisper turn-in response and wondering if just the rear would help or if both are required.

If by "crisper turn-in" you mean instill some oversteer, yes, an Eibach rear sway bar will promote oversteer. Putting both bars on would promote neutral steer.