Doug is selling the Stinger

[sting me]

I mean, I typically buy a new car every 3 years or so just to get the newest tech. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Kamauxx]

I mean, I typically buy a new car every 3 years or so just to get the newest tech. Different strokes for different folks.

I'm with ya. I only make it 1-2 yrs between cars. Vehicle tech is VERY important to me. Guess I'm not a "true" car enthusiast.

 

[leecm]

I can't stand his reviews. He is annoying. I prefer Redline, Alex Auto, Raiti's Rides, and Straightpipes.

Redline and Alex on Autos are okay, but very cookie cutter (they are part of the same automotive review alliance). Raiti actually also has a very similar formula to Redline and AoA. I actually am really growing to love Savagegeese, especially now that Jack is regularly appearing in videos.

Mark and Jack are both pretty knowledgeable about the mechanical aspects of the cars, and they go into depth about the subject more than the channels you mentioned. They also are more honest about the cars (sometimes coming off as negative Nancies), but I am growing to prefer the honesty over Redline and AoA who come off as being afraid to bash a car and piss off the manufacturers.

 

[GenesisG70]

These so called car expert reviewer journalists are in bed with the car manufacturers they hype everything and are not very objective and honest when they review cars including Savageese.

 

[Spaceme17]

I can't stand his reviews. He is annoying. I prefer Redline, Alex Auto, Raiti's Rides, and Straightpipes.

Damn right. I stopped watching his reviews months ago because he became a caricature of himself. Went from somewhat informative to annoying.

And trading a Kia Stinger for ANY Land Rover; that is just plain dumb.

 

[SKStinger]

Damn right. I stopped watching his reviews months ago because he became a caricature of himself. Went from somewhat informative to annoying.

And trading a Kia Stinger for ANY Land Rover; that is just plain dumb.

Buying an off-road oriented Defender to drive in a climate controlled metropolis is also dumb.

 

[SafetyPilotCal]

Doug is a tool and I thought he was a tool long before he ever reviewed the Stinger or bought his. Fortunately (or unfortunately) Doug is not alone in his tooldom of YouTube automotive reviewers. As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, his writing for Jalopnik and AUTOTRADER DOT COM SLASH OVERSTEER was much, much, MUCH better and preferable to him on camera. I can only take so many shots of Doug doing a stupid face during a review before I have to turn it off.

He's not a car guy, he can't really drive, and when he's not obsessing about some nickpicky shit, he's just generally being completely out of touch. I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but his review of the Mitsubishi Mirage is a great example of it. He's reviewing the cheapest new car you can buy, then bashing it for shit nobody cares about like seat rails without aesthetically-pleasing trim covering them. The entire review came down to "WHY WOULD THE POORS EVER WANT THIS??" I actually didn't mind him as much when he was showing off real exotics because very few people would ever see those cars in real life, let alone own one or know about all the "quirks and features". His "regular" car reviews are godawful.

When it comes to YT reviewers, the only channel I watch regularly is savagegeese. I like that Mark and Jack really don't pull any punches and aren't afraid to bash a product when it deserves it. At the same time, they're pretty even-keeled and I think they're the most honest in the game when it comes to praise. I can watch TheStraightPipes if it's a video about a car I really care about (I just watched their video on the Sonata N-Line for example). Redline Reviews is an okay guy, too. He's very not-dynamic, but his content is concise and tells me what I need to know. I can pretty much do without any of the rest.

 

[Nasscar]

I must be in the minority because I quite like Doug. I think his review of the power and handling dynamics of the Stinger were pretty spot on. But of course a 2 year old car isn't going to have the newest tech is it Doug....

 

[leecm]

I must be in the minority because I quite like Doug. I think his review of the power and handling dynamics of the Stinger were pretty spot on. But of course a 2 year old car isn't going to have the newest tech is it Doug....

Yeah, not sure why people are crapping on him as a person. His videos certainly aren't for everyone, but he seems like a genuinely good guy, and pretty down to earth considering how successful he has been on youtube. His appearances on the smoking tire podcast give you a pretty good indication of the type of guy Doug is.

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

Exactly. He spent a good 2 minutes talking about how the Stinger's 3 year old tech is not up to today's standard. No shit. But true car enthusiasts could give a F.

I've built my share of sleepers, shoving huge-assed engines into small cars, and a Rustang GT engine into a Rustang II, and I've owned first-generation Rustangs. I've had as many as four Corvettes at once, including a ZR1 Corvette (which I just junked... it took me ten years after a tree blew over on top of it, to come to the decision to junk it), and I picked a previous-year Saab 9-3 Linear over the new-year Aeros next to it on the lot because it was the only 9-3 on the lot with a manual transmission, and it was priced higher than some of the linears, and I still drive it today because I love rowing through the gears as I thrash it around twisty roads.

But.. I'm going to be replacing the Saab not because of the lack of power (it has enough power to get into trouble if I choose... which I'm old enough to exercise wisdom not to), but because the head unit is the CANBUS hub, and yes I can have to infotainment systems side by side but that solution is fugly and hack. So... I'm going to upgrade because of the infotainment system so I can get in-dash GPS, per hands-free laws. I've held off on the new Stinger due to lack of UVO Link and due to the lack of rear LSD. Now, I can swap out the gear carrier myself if it comes to it, or pay a shop to do it... and if the Stinger refresh doesn't get the blind spot camera, UVO Link and Android Wireless I'm not going to buy one but will go Audi S4, or since BMW is FINALLY supporting Android Auto, a BMW, but my caring about the lack of vehicle location, hands-free phone, nav system, geofencing, and the blind spot camera makes me not an enthusiast I guess, right? (the blind spot camera is going to be a hard requirement because my fiance is one of those people who points both side mirrors behind the car). Sorry... but honestly if you want to make the sort of statement about who is and is not an enthusiast, the Stinger is not for you. I'd like to refer you to cars like the Corvette, Demon, Hellcat, anything from McLaren, etc. - you know, true enthusiast cars, not the not-enough-of-an-enthusiast car like the Stinger.

Yeah, not sure why people are crapping on him as a person. His videos certainly aren't for everyone, but he seems like a genuinely good guy, and pretty down to earth considering how successful he has been on youtube. His appearances on the smoking tire podcast give you a pretty good indication of the type of guy Doug is.

I will say I enjoy watching his videos even if I disagree with his assessment of some vehicles. He is right about the Stinger being somewhat stale at this point, and Kia did cut corners on things that would have cost them NOTHING to fix, like the stock ECS program for example, or leaving out the modem for UVO Link when Kia's entry-level crapboxes support it.. and holy crap the back window is nearly as useless as the first-generation Mustang fastback and they could have done what GM did in the Corvette (hybrid mirror).

 

[GenesisG70]

The main question is why we put so much attention and respect to what these kind of youtubers have to say? What authority or credentials do these people have? For me I don't give a peanut what Doug, Savageese, etc have to say.

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

Honestly it isn't so much what their opinion of the vehicle is, but the feature tour the virtual ridealong, and watching how they fit, how they react. Doug's opinion on some vehicles strike me as someone who has not ever sat in a sporty car until getting the idea of becoming a YouTube personality, and has not one second of track time nor has he ever turned a wrench. I could be wrong but that is my impression of him.

But, he is entertaining and he does notice and mock some of the badging and branding things I might, and while I have a different perspective on cars than he has, his opinion is no less valid because it comes from a different perspective and level of appreciation.

 

[leecm]

These so called car expert reviewer journalists are in bed with the car manufacturers they hype everything and are not very objective and honest when they review cars including Savageese.

Not true. Watch their new video on the 2020 370Z. They are totally honest about it. Hell, watch the Stinger review. Mark was actually pretty negative about the Stinger whereas pretty much every other reviewer acted like it was the best car to ever be created.

 

[Kamauxx]

The main question is why we put so much attention and respect to what these kind of youtubers have to say? What authority or credentials do these people have? For me I don't give a peanut what Doug, Savageese, etc have to say.

Well, Doug owns a Stinger just like you. Should everyone not "give a peanut" what you post? What makes your opinion more valid than his?

 

[GenesisG70]

Not true. Watch their new video on the 2020 370Z. They are totally honest about it. Hell, watch the Stinger review. Mark was actually pretty negative about the Stinger whereas pretty much every other reviewer acted like it was the best car to ever be created.

Sure their videos are very favorable when they get sponsored or get YouTube money, also a lot of times they are very critical of Kia/Hyundai cars but when reviewing Porsches for example everything is excellent, I call it bias and sponsorship money don't believe 100% what these common mundane guys have to say about a car I am interested.

 

[SKStinger]

I've built my share of sleepers, shoving huge-assed engines into small cars, and a Rustang GT engine into a Rustang II, and I've owned first-generation Rustangs. I've had as many as four Corvettes at once, including a ZR1 Corvette (which I just junked... it took me ten years after a tree blew over on top of it, to come to the decision to junk it), and I picked a previous-year Saab 9-3 Linear over the new-year Aeros next to it on the lot because it was the only 9-3 on the lot with a manual transmission, and it was priced higher than some of the linears, and I still drive it today because I love rowing through the gears as I thrash it around twisty roads.

But.. I'm going to be replacing the Saab not because of the lack of power (it has enough power to get into trouble if I choose... which I'm old enough to exercise wisdom not to), but because the head unit is the CANBUS hub, and yes I can have to infotainment systems side by side but that solution is fugly and hack. So... I'm going to upgrade because of the infotainment system so I can get in-dash GPS, per hands-free laws. I've held off on the new Stinger due to lack of UVO Link and due to the lack of rear LSD (Limited Slip Differential). Now, I can swap out the gear carrier myself if it comes to it, or pay a shop to do it... and if the Stinger refresh doesn't get the blind spot camera, UVO Link and Android Wireless I'm not going to buy one but will go Audi S4, or since BMW is FINALLY supporting Android Auto, a BMW, but my caring about the lack of vehicle location, hands-free phone, nav system, geofencing, and the blind spot camera makes me not an enthusiast I guess, right? (the blind spot camera is going to be a hard requirement because my fiance is one of those people who points both side mirrors behind the car). Sorry... but honestly if you want to make the sort of statement about who is and is not an enthusiast, the Stinger is not for you. I'd like to refer you to cars like the Corvette, Demon, Hellcat, anything from McLaren, etc. - you know, true enthusiast cars, not the not-enough-of-an-enthusiast car like the Stinger.

I will say I enjoy watching his videos even if I disagree with his assessment of some vehicles. He is right about the Stinger being somewhat stale at this point, and Kia did cut corners on things that would have cost them NOTHING to fix, like the stock ECS program for example, or leaving out the modem for UVO Link when Kia's entry-level crapboxes support it.. and holy crap the back window is nearly as useless as the first-generation Mustang fastback and they could have done what GM did in the Corvette (hybrid mirror).

Are you sure it doesn't have to do with it being a Saab? After all, there are many reasons why they are no longer in business.

 

[Travis Wills]

Looks like Doug sold the car for $38,250 plus thousands in fees. That is just insane. Someone paid more for this car than Doug did when he bought it brand new.

I wonder if this will affect resale values at all?

2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD - Doug DeMuro's Stinger, California-Kept, ~8,400 Miles

This 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD is for sale on Cars & Bids! Auction ends November 17 2020.

carsandbids.com

 

[SKStinger]

Looks like Doug sold the car for $38,250 plus thousands in fees. That is just insane. Someone paid more for this car than Doug did when he bought it brand new.

I wonder if this will affect resale values at all?

2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD - Doug DeMuro's Stinger, California-Kept, ~8,400 Miles

This 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD is for sale on Cars & Bids! Auction ends November 17 2020.

carsandbids.com

LOL sweet deal for him! Did you look at the bid history? Someone bid $34,000 and the next bid (the winning bid) was a $38,250 bid. Pretty bad bidding strategy there i'd say.

 

[CeramicGT001]

Looks like Doug sold the car for $38,250 plus thousands in fees. That is just insane. Someone paid more for this car than Doug did when he bought it brand new.

I wonder if this will affect resale values at all?

2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD - Doug DeMuro's Stinger, California-Kept, ~8,400 Miles

This 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD is for sale on Cars & Bids! Auction ends November 17 2020.

carsandbids.com

The only reason it sold for so much is because it was “Doug’s Stinger”, the only other Stinger (same year/trim) on his site sold for 34k.

 

[leecm]

The only reason it sold for so much is because it was “Doug’s Stinger”, the only other Stinger (same year/trim) on his site sold for 34k.

Will the buyer stiff the driver's seat for an hour immediately upon delivery? I've heard of people doing weirder things...