Bushfire Crisis

[DCBStingerGT]

The problem with politicians (Australian bushfire mismanagement edition) | Auto Expert John Cadogan
04 JAN2020

I am sure we all know our PM ScoMo is copping a beating, from going to Hawaii for holiday, and now for being insensitive to the fire victims, and not doing enough to help, and literally told to F...k..Off by angry bushfire victims, here is John Cadogan's take on this..

 

[Flameangel]

Yup, we have a new name " Shitsville " and most Shitvillians are peed off by lack of leadership with the current disaster a foot.

Talk about Australia been a " Sunburnt Country " we'll be a " Blackened " one by the end of this Shitstorm.

 

[Nasscar]

The problem with politicians (Australian bushfire mismanagement edition) | Auto Expert John Cadogan
04 JAN2020

I am sure we all know our PM ScoMo is copping a beating, from going to Hawaii for holiday, and now for being insensitive to the fire victims, and not doing enough to help, and literally told to F...k..Off by angry bushfire victims, here is John Cadogan's take on this..

I haven't watched this video yet but I have seen many of Cadogans videos in the past. He probably should stick to talking about cars rather than politics.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Oh no, you don’t buy the “lingering satellite image” as you call it. Looks like you’ve caught us out, it’s all a hoax, fake news, who would’ve thought.

Maybe, just maybe, it is just the maker of the video? Come on, there is no way that FIRE (in technicolor RED) is going to show up from outer space like that, covering the entire eastern part of Aus. You'd all be dead. Enhancement of a legit satellite photo is just melodramatic hype.

But your fires problem is real. Where did I insinuate that you're bluffing, huffing and blowing your own house down so you can cry about it? Get off.

But I digress, clearly it’s all fake and we’re all worried about nothing because Merlin doesn’t buy it. Now I remember why I added you to my ignore list.

What can be undone can be redone.

 

[Coast GT]

You Eastern states guys really are doing it tough. We are so lucky so far here in the West. I feel for you all.

Haven’t you got a tropical cyclone coming? We could use the rain from a cyclone here, but then everyone would complain when it floods

 

[Nasscar]

Haven’t you got a tropical cyclone coming? We could use the rain from a cyclone here, but then everyone would complain when it floods

Yeh that's way up north though and won't effect Perth metro.

 

[Coast GT]

Maybe, just maybe, it is just the maker of the video? Come on, there is no way that FIRE (in technicolor RED) is going to show up from outer space like that, covering the entire eastern part of Aus. You'd all be dead. Enhancement of a legit satellite photo is just melodramatic hype.

But your fires problem is real. Where did I insinuate that you're bluffing, huffing and blowing your own house down so you can cry about it? Get off.


What can be undone can be redone.

Nobody is crying about anything here. The images are from NASA, so it must be a great big conspiracy between all of us here and your own space agency. Or maybe there is a way that the fires would show from outer space. Who would’ve thought they’d have the technology to film it. These aren’t just some small scrub fires, the smoke from them has now reached South America. Yes there’s satellite images of that too. The fire fronts if placed end to end would stretch from Sydney to Afghanistan, but I guess that’s just melodramatic hype.

Yet again you’ve proven yourself to be an A Grade wanker who just dribbles shit for the sake of it. Perhaps you should crawl back under your rock, put your tinfoil hat back on and refrain from commenting on things you have no knowledge on, particularly when those things are having a direct impact on some of the others that are posting about it.

 

[Coast GT]

Just to add to the last post, as of 4am this morning there are 130 fires currently burning in New South Wales, that’s only 1 State, and doesn’t take into account fires currently burning in Queensland, Victoria, Tasmania, and South Australia which can be seen on the satellite images of the entire country

 

[MerlintheMad]

Nobody is crying about anything here. The images are from NASA, so it must be a great big conspiracy between all of us here and your own space agency. Or maybe there is a way that the fires would show from outer space. Who would’ve thought they’d have the technology to film it. These aren’t just some small scrub fires, the smoke from them has now reached South America. Yes there’s satellite images of that too. The fire fronts if placed end to end would stretch from Sydney to Afghanistan, but I guess that’s just melodramatic hype.

Yet again you’ve proven yourself to be an A Grade wanker who just dribbles shit for the sake of it. Perhaps you should crawl back under your rock, put your tinfoil hat back on and refrain from commenting on things you have no knowledge on, particularly when those things are having a direct impact on some of the others that are posting about it. View attachment 36332

You don't see a clear difference here? Somebody has taken the location NASA image and photo shopped into visible flames from space. They even multiplied the stricken areas to make this look dramatic. No need for that, imho. That's all I said: I don't believe the satellite image lingering at the end of the video. And neither should anybody else.

 

[Flameangel]

Hey Guys!! I made this thread so hopefully people maybe kind enough to make a donation to the " Bushfire Appeal " and a tribute to what our beloved Country is going through.

I don't appreciate a " to and fro Bickering " about the Map at the end of the vid, yes someone has clearly changed it slightly, perhaps for " dramatic effect " but really in the current context of things, is it a minor thing that doesn't need people to be " quibbling over " .......Fact......our country is on Fkn Fire !!!

 

[eljay]

Thanks to all for the moving and informative videos and all the informational posts of the past several days. My heart is with you all. Short of the koalas and kangaroos, the video Flameangel posted Saturday could have been California during our fires of the past several years. This is getting all too common, and the point can't be made strongly enough that we didn't have fires this large, or this sustained, or destructive of property decades ago—not because of subsequent unwise development, but because of more frequent and sustained drought and higher average temperatures, which produces fires that form their own weather systems (high winds, lightning) that fuel more fires. Some of the towns and agricultural areas that burned in California were not new developments, but were over a century old, that had never been threatened by fire to anywhere near this degree. I'm guessing that's the same in Australia.

We were thankful for your firefighters who came to our aid here in California during our fires of the past several years, so I was glad to see that one of the crews going to you this week is from our nearby Angeles National Forest. Sadly, since our fire seasons, which used to be separate, are now overlapping, I've heard that in future we may not be as able to spare people and equipment to help each other.

More than once I've watched water and Phoschek tankers fly over on their way to our fires (impressive sight), and remember vividly the day I was stuck in freeway traffic and entertained myself by watching Phoschek dumps on a "relatively small" fire in the foothills north of (our) Arcadia. It's like the old curse, may you live in interesting times. Well, we certainly do.

And not to diminish the catastrophe, yep, MerlintheMad, the "inflammatory" picture was a digital visualization of the fire data, not a satellite image, so I'll post this antidote, an actual satellite image from Copernicus Sentinal (Dec 31). If the flames don't get you, the toxic smoke will.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

To put it into perspective, a lot of people just don’t realise how big Australia is, my state NSW has an area of 809,444 square kilometres, in comparison the state of Texas has an area of 695,662 square kilometres so it’s of a reasonable size.
The state of Utah has an area of 219,887 square kilometres the current 2019-2020 bushfire season has 63,000 square kilometres currently burnt which is almost 30% of the state of Utah.
These are no small fires & even with Australian’s experience with bushfires what we are experiencing is unprecedented in living memory.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Thanks to all for the moving and informative videos and all the informational posts of the past several days. My heart is with you all. Short of the koalas and kangaroos, the video Flameangel posted Saturday could have been California during our fires of the past several years. This is getting all too common, and the point can't be made strongly enough that we didn't have fires this large, or this sustained, or destructive of property decades ago—not because of subsequent unwise development, but because of more frequent and sustained drought and higher average temperatures, which produces fires that form their own weather systems (high winds, lightning) that fuel more fires. Some of the towns and agricultural areas that burned in California were not new developments, but were over a century old, that had never been threatened by fire to anywhere near this degree. I'm guessing that's the same in Australia.

We were thankful for your firefighters who came to our aid here in California during our fires of the past several years, so I was glad to see that one of the crews going to you this week is from our nearby Angeles National Forest. Sadly, since our fire seasons, which used to be separate, are now overlapping, I've heard that in future we may not be as able to spare people and equipment to help each other.

More than once I've watched water and Phoschek tankers fly over on their way to our fires (impressive sight), and remember vividly the day I was stuck in freeway traffic and entertained myself by watching Phoschek dumps on a "relatively small" fire in the foothills north of (our) Arcadia. It's like the old curse, may you live in interesting times. Well, we certainly do.

And not to diminish the catastrophe, yep, MerlintheMad, the "inflammatory" picture was a digital visualization of the fire data, not a satellite image, so I'll post this antidote, an actual satellite image from Copernicus Sentinal (Dec 31). If the flames don't get you, the toxic smoke will.View attachment 36344

California’s wildfire problem has been compounded over the years with Eucalyptus trees being introduced approx. 100 years ago or so. The Californian climate is ideal for these trees so they have thrived throughout the state & added these with the pine trees is the perfect recipe for the disasters that California now experience.

 

[eljay]

California’s wildfire problem has been compounded over the years with Eucalyptus trees being introduced approx. 100 years ago or so. The Californian climate is ideal for these trees so they have thrived throughout the state & added these with the pine trees is the perfect recipe for the disasters that California now experience.

Yes, we have so many of your native plants here, but eucalytus probably longest, since the Gold Rush. My childhood vacations are all scented by Highway 1 eucalyptus. But of course no one plants them any more, given the way they go up like torches.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Hey Guys!! I made this thread so hopefully people maybe kind enough to make a donation to the " Bushfire Appeal " and a tribute to what our beloved Country is going through.

I don't appreciate a " to and fro Bickering " about the Map at the end of the vid, yes someone has clearly changed it slightly, perhaps for " dramatic effect " but really in the current context of things, is it a minor thing that doesn't need people to be " quibbling over " .......Fact......our country is on Fkn Fire !!!

Sorry for my instigating. But blame it on my hatred for fakery. Why people can't just show what's real, why they have to embellish and make things up, I'll never understand.

Btw, I get audio when I click over to Facebook and watch the video directly; the visual quality is tons better on Facebook too (wonder why it gets degraded watching it here?) Nice song. Very uniting. We can certainly use more of that!

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Yes, we have so many of your native plants here, but eucalytus probably longest, since the Gold Rush. My childhood vacations are all scented by Highway 1 eucalyptus. But of course no one plants them any more, given the way they go up like torches.

That scented smell you speak of is quintessentially Australian, for me I always know I’m home when I smell that eucalyptus scent.
So my senses were challenged on my first visit to LA in 2001 when some locals took me to an In & Out Burger on Route 66 (sorry cannot remember exact location/suburb) & I could smell gum trees as we call them, then to my surprise there was a whole row of eucalyptus trees in the middle of the street that formed the median strip.
The locals told me they are everywhere & that’s when I realised why you had such severe wildfires in California.

 

[Coast GT]

 

[Ozstung]

All my clothes, towels and sheets are infused with the smell of smoke.

I have strong views on what Id imagine mankind's issues are with its relation to its treatment of nature. I'm not about to elaborate here for obvious reasons. I will say one thing, as a child I went to bible classes at the time it seemed like fables, stories and prophecies. But now I find a lot rings true.

 

[Flameangel]

Our Hospital is helping out ; all wards are collecting donations ( our's is $10 each staff member ) so we can send a Semitrailer carrying Hay interstate and hopefully raise enough for another truck.

Our ward is also " adopting a Koala " so the money will help with the care of injured and rescued koala's

 

[Flameangel]

Here are pics of the cute little " Sugar Gliders " we looked after for a couple of weeks, they belonged to a friend's daughter.
They are of course nocturnal so we didn't see them that much and they stink to high heaven so we had to have the Cage in the garage.
The cars we had were kept outside so there were no exhaust fumes for them to inhale.