2022 Kia Stinger Full America Info!!

[stoopid]

... Even with the raised prices, it’s still a deal compared to the competing German brands. I’ll post the window sticker here as well for reference.

While that's true, I'm thinking many potential buyers will end up looking at a Mustang GT or Challenger/Charger with a Hemi. There's only two ways the Stinger has 'value' IMO...

1) At $39,000-ish with the 3.3TT
2) Loaded GT2

They've eliminated #1 and opted to push those potential buyers into the 2022 2.5T model, but the 3.3TT drivetrain is where most of them are interested. Once they see on the dealer inventory there isn't anything in that price class they're just going to shop elsewhere. They may end up selling a few more GT2 trims, but at a cost of selling fewer GT/GT1 and eventually having to (heavily) discount that trim to move inventory. They're getting fewer warm bodies in drivers seats both as test drivers and owners. This cannot fair well for their bottom line.

 

[redraidersrule]

While that's true, I'm thinking many potential buyers will end up looking at a Mustang GT or Challenger/Charger with a Hemi. There's only two ways the Stinger has 'value' IMO...

1) At $39,000-ish with the 3.3TT
2) Loaded GT2

They've eliminated #1 and opted to push those potential buyers into the 2022 2.5T model, but the 3.3TT drivetrain is where most of them are interested. Once they see on the dealer inventory there isn't anything in that price class they're just going to shop elsewhere. They may end up selling a few more GT2 trims, but at a cost of selling fewer GT/GT1 and eventually having to (heavily) discount that trim to move inventory. They're getting fewer warm bodies in drivers seats both as test drivers and owners. This cannot fair well for their bottom line.

while i agree to an extent, I could be wrong here, but Id be willing to bet the people looking at Stingers arent cross shopping Mustangs and Challengers. Because of the 2 vs 4 door. The only car to shop would be the Charger. And everyone has different opinions but IMO the only reason to go Charger would be for pure power only. The interior is awful, looks like a rental car.

 

[stoopid]

while i agree to an extent, I could be wrong here, but Id be willing to bet the people looking at Stingers arent cross shopping Mustangs and Challengers... The interior is awful, looks like a rental car.

That's because they are fleet cars. lol

I did briefly cross shopping the Mustang GT. 4 doors isn't a requirement, as long as there's adequate trunk room and the ability to host 4 bodies (I really only need 2 people 99% of the time). The Stinger's utility was a welcome afterthought in my personal decision making process. I know I've read similar posts on this forum, many using the Stinger like me as a sporty daily driver. Having had a Mustang as a rental a few years ago, I can attest that daily driving is a very similar experience to the Stinger. When pushed the Stinger handles better (stock v stock), but I was looking at straight line performance / highway as my priority. I think I'm representative of the average semi-enthusiast Stinger owner, whether all Stinger owners are as honest with their actual needs as I am notwithstanding.

Probably not the Challenger as much, it's not a comparable handling vehicle. Not even close.

For me it came down to pricing, the Stinger was a better value than the Mustang after the $4500 in discounts I got.

 

[redraidersrule]

That's because they are fleet cars. lol

I was cross shopping the Mustang GT. 4 doors isn't a requirement, as long as there's adequate trunk room and the ability to host 4 bodies (I really only need 2 people 99% of the time). The Stinger's utility was a welcome afterthought in my personal decision making process. I know I've read similar posts on this forum, many using the Stinger like me as a sporty daily driver. Having had a Mustang as a rental a few years ago, I can attest that daily driving is a very similar experience to the Stinger. When pushed the Stinger handles better (stock v stock), but I was looking at straight line performance / highway as my priority. I think I'm representative of the average semi-enthusiast Stinger owner, whether all Stinger owners are as honest with their actual needs as I am notwithstanding.

Probably not the Challenger as much, it's not a comparable handling vehicle. Not even close.

We have 2 kids 5 and under. My wife is fine with me getting a "sports car" but it has to have 4 doors lol.

 

[stoopid]

We have 2 kids 5 and under. My wife is fine with me getting a "sports car" but it has to have 4 doors lol.

Yup, so your demographic is looking for a family sedan more/less. Thankfully there's a few 4 door options still (WRX STi, BMW, Charger, G70, Fusion 2.7TT if you can find one). The Stinger IMO is the best of them. Too bad the sport wagons are priced well outside of this segment.

I don't think there's a lot of families looking for sporty 4 door cars, though. As I eluded in another post weeks ago, it's possible Kia is trying to generate its own market with the Stinger. It definitely checks boxes across several different shopping lists. But that would seem a very risk proposition for Kia.

 

[Beer Snob]

This is reaffirming my decision to go with my 2020 base GT RWD, tbh. I just lucked out with the black exterior/red interior

 

[Liampk23]

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hopefully sooner since the GT K5 is configurable on the website.

The sad truth is that it will probably be a while. The GT K5 is actually coming next month! I just found out today but since they didn’t release the 2.5 with the new 3.3 they’re probably going to wait so that the hype for the new stinger is focused on the flagship for a while.

 

[Transmetal]

I don't think there's a lot of families looking for sporty 4 door cars, though.

That's exactly what I was looking for a sporty 4dr. We already have an suv (Jeep Grand Cherokee) didn't need another suv. Living in MN, vehicle had to be either fwd or awd, I preferred awd. Then there was the price. So no Bmw or Audi for me, not that I wanted one anyways. Options were Nissan Maxima, Wrx premium, or Camry xse V6. Didn't want a Charger because the only way to get awd was with a v6, they stopped making awd with the v8 back in 2014. Plus, as somebody else mentioned the interior is not very good and I see Chargers all the freaking time.

 

[Liampk23]

While that's true, I'm thinking many potential buyers will end up looking at a Mustang GT or Challenger/Charger with a Hemi. There's only two ways the Stinger has 'value' IMO...

1) At $39,000-ish with the 3.3TT
2) Loaded GT2

They've eliminated #1 and opted to push those potential buyers into the 2022 2.5T model, but the 3.3TT drivetrain is where most of them are interested. Once they see on the dealer inventory there isn't anything in that price class they're just going to shop elsewhere. They may end up selling a few more GT2 trims, but at a cost of selling fewer GT/GT1 and eventually having to (heavily) discount that trim to move inventory. They're getting fewer warm bodies in drivers seats both as test drivers and owners. This cannot fair well for their bottom line.

That’s a very fair point, I myself before being a salesman of Kia was in the boat that most customers looking for a performance car are in. I test drove the 4 series and all the muscle cars that are available, but landed on the stinger because of it being a niche car that not many people had while having lots of cool features. I actually have the GT- Line because I was waiting for the new GT2 to come out before I went out and got a 50,000$ car. Because of that I’m a little biased to the upgrades that they have made, but there are pros and cons and we just have to wait and see what works.

Pros- new features that are now “expected” in the higher trim make the GT2 a more comparable option to the competition. Thus gaining customers from the dominated BMW, Mercades, Lexus, etc, “luxury brands”.

Cons- raising the bar for the base 3.3 engine and loosing out on customers that care about getting the best cost for performance ratio.

The cons probably overweight the pros from a sales perspective but even though we lost the base trim, it’s hard to be mad about the brand moving in a new direction focused on becoming a luxury brand. The “cheap Korean car” mentality is probably what they’re trying to change, weather it works or not we’ll just have to wait and see.

 

[stoopid]

... The “cheap Korean car” mentality is probably what they’re trying to change, [whether] it works or not we’ll just have to wait and see.

It's all speculation until a few quarters pass and sales numbers start showing trends.

I like seeing car companies get rewarded for putting out quality products they can stand behind. Hyundai earned my purchases a while back, then I went with GM for a bit and now I'm apparently back with the 'new' upstart Korean maker on the block. Only time will tell if Kia's focus on going upscale will succeed or just be a passing phase.

 

[Jayphil]

Pros- new features that are now “expected” in the higher trim make the GT2 a more comparable option to the competition. Thus gaining customers from the dominated BMW, Mercades, Lexus, etc, “luxury brands”.

I do not think that the Stinger misses features over comparable BMW, Mercedes etc, in fact for the price the Stinger is very well equiped. The problem is that most of feature or characteristic of the Stinger is less mature or quality vs the germans.

• Interior material and quality
• Paint quality
• Fuel economy vs performance
• Drive modes the significantly change the car behavior and sound
• Handling at the limits
• Infotainment while working well is graphics / resolution is not so good
• No real transmission manual mode
• ....

You get most of what the germany propose but just with lower level of implementation but you also pay much less.

 

[imperial4ever]

Finally!! Kia has installed a physical button in the key fob to remote start the vehicle.

 

[MerlintheMad]

That’s true, but with Kia becoming a more established brand the stinger will get more of a spotlight in its segment. The GT1 pricing is sticking closer to the old GT1 MSRP than the base GT unfortunately, even with the dropped sound system and such. Kia probably wants to place the base Stinger at another level to place the whole line in a higher category. Even with the raised prices, it’s still a deal compared to the competing German brands. I’ll post the window sticker here as well for reference.

Well, yes prices go up. But you're right, Kia is pushing the Stinger higher by trimming the trims and eliminating the "baser" qualities. In 2018 you could get a 2.0L base for c. $32,000. Now the minimum is at least four thousand more than that. It looks like the originally stated option in four cylinder engines is not: only the 2.5L is coming. This piece is only a few hours old: The 2022 Kia Stinger Gets Bumped Up To 300 HP

 

[joe1234]

Hey guys I’m a salesman at Car Pros Kia HB and a stinger driver/enthusiast too. The new 2022 models are coming out way earlier than I expected..... next month March 2021!!! The first model we’re getting is coming in the 6th, the newly colored ascot green GT2. I’ll attach the window sticker so you can see the exact specs. From what I can see now, they’re probably killing the 2.0 GT-line and the bast GT model. The new lineup will be the 2.5 GT-Line and the 3.3 GT1 and GT2. Some of the main new features are going to be the bigger main screen, a full led tail light, 9 more HP due to the new variable exhaust (I think it’s a physically controlled exhaust, not the speaker sound one but a real ass exhaust that you can open and close to increase sound), quilted seats, a CARBON FIBER EXTERIOR PACKAGE, three rim options, new headlights, more LED lights in the cabin, and a electronically controlled suspension. The MSRP for the GT1 and 2 are going to be about 3,000$ more than the 2021 models but for what you get it seems worth it. I’ll update with a video when the first one comes but feel free to ask about anything stinger related here!!! I’m happy to give you any info you want

There was Kia Global press release back in August when the facelift model had its global launch which mentioned the following:
"For North America, a new ‘Black Package’ is offered, giving customization fans the chance to enhance the aesthetics of the Stinger further with an aggressive new look. The Black Package includes new 19-inch matte black lightweight wheels, a new rear wing for the trunk lid, and blacked out mirror caps and side fender trim."

Any idea if that blackout package is coming after all? I see you mention there will be 3 rim options, perhaps one of them is the lightweight black wheels mentioned above?
You mention there is a carbon exterior package, have any idea of the pricing for it? Will these be dealer installed options?

Thanks for the info!

 

[MerlintheMad]

Finally!! Kia has installed a physical button in the key fob to remote start the vehicle.

I hadn't heard/seen. Do you have a picture? Welcome!

 

[monusa]

Although my mind has been gravitating towards the 3.3 in a couple of months, I am honestly more interested in the 2.5. The extra horsepower will be better at moving the car more quickly and at a couple hundred pounds lighter, more "nimble".

With the HP increase, it will take a LOT less $$$$ to make the Stinger move/handle better but if that is not your "forte"......lol, then getting in a Stinger with good performance and lots of tech, will be easier.....if a buyer just has to have the extra power, they are going after the 3.3 anyway....

 

[redraidersrule]

I hadn't heard/seen. Do you have a picture? Welcome!

The window sticker from the first post says remote start on the key.

 

[Jayphil]

The window sticker from the first post says remote start on the key.

Probably the same remote but you hold the fire rocket button for 3 seconds. If that the case now the nice button will be meaningful.

 

[MerlintheMad]

The window sticker from the first post says remote start on the key.

Probably the same remote but you hold the fire rocket button for 3 seconds. If that the case now the nice button will be meaningful.

Yeah, that's what I think is happening: the same buttons, different function.

 

[Devin]

I think the GT1 msrp dropped by 1 kUSD from what I saw at the dealer yesterday. Kinda bummed the 2022 GT1 dropped the seat memory, but I'll make a go of it.