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[WRXtoStingerGT]

and our Stingers aren't light either. My gt2awd is 4165 lbs

I guess with ALL the options plus all-wheel-drive it really does add up!

 

[I Stung U]

 

[I Stung U]

 

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[I Stung U]

68 Chevy Camaro Vs. 79 Chevy Malibu 1/4 Mile Drag Race !

 

[stoopid]

I didn't think the results were as compelling as you suggested in your conclusions. I wonder if you ran two or three of those bottles through if that would have removed a more definitive amount of the buildup. From the before and after pictures, dish soap might have done about the same amount of work.

Per my prior responses here, most of these chemical products (like Seafoam) used to clean valves need to be at consistent intervals and before the buildup is thick. You noted this in your video, but didn't actually apply that knowledge to your own car. After a certain amount of time, they have to be cleaned aggressively (like walnut blasting).

IMHO the video ends up being mostly pointless other than to illustrate that these chemical products are not viable on a higher mileage DI engine. It would also seem that after the time/effort you expended you felt you had to post something.

 

[I Stung U]

I didn't think the results were as compelling as you suggested in your conclusions. I wonder if you ran two or three of those bottles through if that would have removed a more definitive amount of the buildup. From the before and after pictures, dish soap might have done about the same amount of work.

Per my prior responses here, most of these chemical products (like Seafoam) used to clean valves need to be at consistent intervals and before the buildup is thick. You noted this in your video, but didn't actually apply that knowledge to your own car. After a certain amount of time, they have to be cleaned aggressively (like walnut blasting).

IMHO the video ends up being mostly pointless other than to illustrate that these chemical products are not viable on a higher mileage DI engine. It would also seem that after the time/effort you expended you felt you had to post something.

Sure, if I ran more, or if I went for a good high rev. highway drive, which I did on the way home, and then opened it up, they're likely would be a bit more, not tons, but a bit more visible cleaning, with the carbon been softened up like that. But too much of that stuff at once, may cause issues with the Cat, so I'm told.

Your comment of the video being pointless, is actually 100% the opposite. Of course it's a good video !! It shows viewers who have less, or same or way more mileage, of what they should likely do in their cars situation. Further, if someone has as many mileage as me, I think it's better they just wait another 10k mile or so and then do a walnut blast, so it's more worth while. The car will not break down if they reach 40-50K miles and do it then. But if they have 1-10K mile they can see it's best to do it at regular 10K miles intervals.

In regards to your comments I don't take my own advice ? If I suspected it may need a walnut blast, and just went straight to that, I wouldn't be able to make this video for reference to viewers wondering about this !! It only cost me $25 for the kit from the place I got it and some kms and gas $ to drive a bit out to a friends house (I wish he lived much closer) to bring this video to folks. So I did it to double check and to make a video. But maybe CRC or Seafoam would do better than this one ? Who knows.
Just wish I could have take off to look inside after the long drive home or after the next day, because next day I was at the drag strip going full throttle to 108 mph

My intakes weren't that bad, like other videos where they're horrible, as guy is doing it on a car with 100k miles.

Moving forward, I may do a CRC spray before next oil change, assuming it'll do something a bit more and then another one before next oil change again, assuming I'm slowly making it better ?? if I'm doing it every 6K mile (10k kms) ? ? Is that a reasonable theory ?

I can't keep taking off the upper intake manifold.

Or since walnut blast is not that cheap, I just wait another year now (honestly not horrible in there) and do a walnut blast then, so I'm getting my $$ worth, and then do it every 10K miles max ?

Everyone can decide for themselves, seeing in the video that this service worked, but only a little bit...

Hmm.. But the only kinda stupid part of all this is ? That I had it open and with carbon being soft, I didn't take advantage to do more manual cleaning, shop vac the shit out so all that trouble, I ended up with a good clean !! DOH !! But, Tyler had guests already arriving before we finished and I didn't have more of his time to bother him at his house and a Sat. evening.

 

[stoopid]

A long, flat headed screwdriver carefully pushing against the buildup might have pried some loose. I would have been nervous about getting the bits out, but they also could have very well gotten disposed of through combustion just the same.

I think the catch can is your best investment for future proofing the engine and you may end up not seeing much buildup at all, even with all the drag strip runs..

I watched another video but forget which solution was used, where the guy had an old Camaro with direct injection and a lot of miles that was running a bit rough and was suspected to need the valves cleaned. Whatever product he used actually helped the engine run noticeably better from beginning to end of the video. If I come across the video I'll post it here. I remember that product took a lot longer to run, I think he even used something to depress the gas pedal to keep the rpms elevated. ** edit -- found the video quick, and his setup is fairly elaborate but IMO it's probably what needs to be done to do this correctly with only chemicals. Here's the after video with the engine disassembled. **

Note that my comment was made only here and not on your youtube channel, some things aren't important enough to be said 'publicly' and this is more informal/private.

 

[ht_addict]

I Stung U, thanks for taking the time making the video, I found it very informative. Not only that I think you are 100% correct, do this type of clean early and often and it should minimize issues in the long run. Personally I have had a catch can on my car since the first few thousand kms, and it collects about a teaspoon to two, everytime I empty it. I have the CRC cleaner which I'll use just before I go for my next oil change. I'm pretty sure KIA isn't that worried about the issue, pretty sure that's why the offer the warranty they offer. I also got the 8/200km 5 Star extended so I'm covered for as long as I got my car.

On a side note. Did you get your tune yet? Got my JB4 installed. Still need to do my plugs through.

 

[I Stung U]

I Stung U, thanks for taking the time making the video, I found it very informative. Not only that I think you are 100% correct, do this type of clean early and often and it should minimize issues in the long run. Personally I have had a catch can on my car since the first few thousand kms, and it collects about a teaspoon to two, everytime I empty it. I have the CRC cleaner which I'll use just before I go for my next oil change. I'm pretty sure KIA isn't that worried about the issue, pretty sure that's why the offer the warranty they offer. I also got the 8/200km 5 Star extended so I'm covered for as long as I got my car.

On a side note. Did you get your tune yet? Got my JB4 installed. Still need to do my plugs through.

I don't have a tune yet. I ordered a racechip gts, and it arrived, but as I was researching and learned more, I found, which I misunderstood at first, this tuner doesn't give any warnings, or can't detect knock or whatever fail safe stuff a JB4 has. As I discovered this and thanks to Tyler's (friend in carbon cleaning video), experience and advice, I decided it may not be safe to use this kind of tuner.
I am sure many many are using it with no issues, and likely 99% safe, but I'm told the JB4 is much safer so it's 99.9% safe.
So I'm returning it without opening. I'll likely go with a JB4 now, but likely now to be for next spring. This drag season is coming to a close and I only care about it for the strip and not so much for my everyday driving.
Re: catch can, it helps, but I don't think it's the only path the carbon build comes from, so good idea to do the crc service soon, if it's time and maintain it.

 

[ht_addict]

I don't have a tune yet. I ordered a racechip gts, and it arrived, but as I was researching and learned more, I found, which I misunderstood at first, this tuner doesn't give any warnings, or can't detect knock or whatever fail safe stuff a JB4 has. As I discovered this and thanks to Tyler's (friend in carbon cleaning video), experience and advice, I decided it may not be safe to use this kind of tuner.
I am sure many many are using it with no issues, and likely 99% safe, but I'm told the JB4 is much safer so it's 99.9% safe.
So I'm returning it without opening. I'll likely go with a JB4 now, but likely now to be for next spring. This drag season is coming to a close and I only care about it for the strip and not so much for my everyday driving.
Re: catch can, it helps, but I don't think it's the only path the carbon build comes from, so good idea to do the crc service soon, if it's time and maintain it.

I picked up my JB4 from Burger Motorsports. It was cheaper to get the unit with Bluetooth, the Spark plug package and fuel line adapters, shipped from the US than it works have cost be in CDN. Plus the Spark plug package comes with the gapping tool, measuring unit and magnet spark plug socket.

 

[cncBilly]

I don't have a tune yet. I ordered a racechip gts, and it arrived, but as I was researching and learned more, I found, which I misunderstood at first, this tuner doesn't give any warnings, or can't detect knock or whatever fail safe stuff a JB4 has. As I discovered this and thanks to Tyler's (friend in carbon cleaning video), experience and advice, I decided it may not be safe to use this kind of tuner.
I am sure many many are using it with no issues, and likely 99% safe, but I'm told the JB4 is much safer so it's 99.9% safe.
So I'm returning it without opening. I'll likely go with a JB4 now, but likely now to be for next spring. This drag season is coming to a close and I only care about it for the strip and not so much for my everyday driving.
Re: catch can, it helps, but I don't think it's the only path the carbon build comes from, so good idea to do the crc service soon, if it's time and maintain it.

Glad you came to your senses on the RC. You will be much happier in the long run with JB4. How long have you had your OCC installed?

 

[I Stung U]

Glad you came to your senses on the RC. You will be much happier in the long run with JB4. How long have you had your OCC installed?

catch can, I believe only 2-3 months. I did video on the install too

 

[cncBilly]

catch can, I believe only 2-3 months. I did video on the install too

Km wise

 

[stoopid]

... I found it very informative. Not only that I think you are 100% correct, do this type of clean early and often and it should minimize issues in the long run.

The reason for my comment is that this is common knowledge. Anyone who uses these products knows their limitations and intended use. Also, hence, my comment that the OP didn't follow their own advice/admission and went ahead with doing the video anyway. The video doesn't necessarily do any harm, but it does make some assertions that can't be made based on the results -- that the cleaning product actually does much, because there wasn't any evidence of that from this video... because everyone knows it wouldn't... anyone who uses these products knows their limitations and intended use... so the video doesn't demonstrate anything more than the obvious, and makes assertions that can't be concluded from the results.

 

[I Stung U]

The reason for my comment is that this is common knowledge. Anyone who uses these products knows their limitations and intended use. Also, hence, my comment that the OP didn't follow their own advice/admission and went ahead with doing the video anyway. The video doesn't necessarily do any harm, but it does make some assertions that can't be made based on the results -- that the cleaning product actually does much, because there wasn't any evidence of that from this video... because everyone knows it wouldn't... anyone who uses these products knows their limitations and intended use... so the video doesn't demonstrate anything more than the obvious, and makes assertions that can't be concluded from the results.

I did not make assertions that the video doesn't show. You can see the difference in some areas and the others are not visible by the cam, but by naked eye, we could see the walls were smoother than before. And we showed how soft the carbon got, which shows that some May (most likely) But I can't prove it, have been burned out on my hwy. drive home.

And Some Trust that we are not lying to my viewers is appreciated, as we wouldn't (we as in including Tyler). You can see his comments posted now in the video, from his perspective, which goes into more detail.

And NO, everyone doesn't know this about these products. I Didn't a year ago ? And Millions out there just starting to take an interest in their cars and searching for info, will not Know. So that is a wrong assumption on your part !!! Big time, but I know what you mean, as you assume everybody already seen other videos out, but not likely true.

And I didn't 100% know this would be the case in my car. I suspected, maybe, because I don't know how much build up it would have ? Other videos I've seen, usually show theirs when it has WAY more mileage and they look bad.
But I haven't seen any with only up to 30K miles. So there was a chance this would have done more.
Actually, I did suspect it would do more.. It kinda did by softening the carbon up, but it just didn't go away after it softened, again, Unless it's fair to assume, more did after in the long hwy. drive... I'd like to believe it did, so I can feel better for doing it, but I honestly have no clue for sure.

Maybe CRC would have done more ? I'll never Know. I have crc spray and will likely do that one before next oil change, hoping it'll remove a bit more and slowly reduce the carbon in there ??
But when I do that one, I will do a hwy run in 6th gear revving higher than i did this time. On this one, I drove home apprx. 120kph, in 7th gear, at 2200 rpm, but I should have gone down another in hopes that higher rev, drive may push out more ??? Italian Tune ?

Italian tune is not suppose to work on modern cars, but there's a chance it would when you just did something to soften the carbon, so ............. ??

To sum up, I believe it was a good video for many who weren't sure. Because many do not want to spend extra $$ if they don't have too and this showed, you likely should spend that, if have higher mileage.
Though at my mileage, it can be argued that walnut blast can be a good idea, and it shows, my carbon wasn't that bad really, and just doing the spray service, will help a bit for so much less and just do it more often, and you can likely really keep it at a very slow build up and not have any issues with the car running smooth..

Cheers,
Stavros
RPM Auto Reviews.

 

[I Stung U]

 

[stoopid]

I did not make assertions that the video doesn't show...

To sum up, I believe it was a good video for many who weren't sure. Because many do not want to spend extra $$ if they don't have too and this showed, you likely should spend that, if have higher mileage.
Though at my mileage, it can be argued that walnut blast can be a good idea, and it shows, my carbon wasn't that bad really, and just doing the spray service, will help a bit for so much less and just do it more often, and you can likely really keep it at a very slow build up and not have any issues with the car running smooth.

You don't really demonstrate anything conclusive and don't make these statements word for word. The 'testing' wasn't particularly scientific. The conclusions were inconclusive. Sorry, BIG TIME, not that great of a job. Maybe with some feedback like mine you'll think it through and do a better job next time. Instead of seeing this as a personal attack, maybe see it as valuable criticism from an educated person who sees potential in what you're doing and is offering advice on how professionals like myself do testing/analysis.