Autostop?

[glenpointe]

I had the 2023 Singer GT2 for few weeks now. I have noticed the autostop does not shut the engine down during stop at traffic lights. Yes, the feature is not turned off and I can see the symbol showing on cluster. Thanks,
Glen

 

[Snicklefritz]

Your mixing terms. "Auto hold" is for coming to a stop and not having to hold the brake pedal down - you can just keep your foot over the gas pedal, or use it to tap to the music while you wait. "Idle Stop Go" is when you come to a stop and the engine turns off.

You will see an amber "A" display in your instrument cluster when conditions are not met for the ISG to engage and turn off the engine. The conditions are numerous. But the main one is always the battery not being fully charged or enough to use ISG. There isn't anything wrong with your feature. Conditions are not being met is all. And it's a stupid feature anyway, that I always turn OFF first thing after starting the engine.

 

[G-551858]

autostop shuts down the engine for saving fuel while idling.

 

[Thomby]

I have noticed the autostop does not shutdown the engine down during stop at traffic lights.

My money is on one of two things: you're holding the brake lightly enough it doesn't activate (before I disabled ISG, 90% of the time I could avoid engine shutoff by not stomping the brake, so try stomping it I guess).

Or, as @Snicklefritz mentioned, the charge level of your battery. If you grab one of those cheap smart chargers off amazon, let it run a full cycle to ensure things are topped off, and drive around for a few miles, I bet it'll kick in.

The Coasting feature (disengaging the transmission and letting engine drop to idle while off throttle in Eco or Smart-Eco mode) has a similar dependency.

 

[D.J.]

I had the 2023 Singer GT2 for few weeks now. I have noticed the autostop does not shut the engine down during stop at traffic lights. Yes, the feature is not turned off and I can see the symbol showing on cluster. Thanks,
Glen

Congratulations. That is the universally accepted preferred mode of operation.

Do you actually want the feature to shut your engine off?

 

[Alpinesting]

NOPE. Since owning this car it has been shut off.

 

[glenpointe]

My money is on one of two things: you're holding the brake lightly enough it doesn't activate (before I disabled ISG, 90% of the time I could avoid engine shutoff by not stomping the brake, so try stomping it I guess).

Or, as @Snicklefritz mentioned, the charge level of your battery. If you grab one of those cheap smart chargers off amazon, let it run a full cycle to ensure things are topped off, and drive around for a few miles, I bet it'll kick in.

The Coasting feature (disengaging the transmission and letting engine drop to idle while off throttle in Eco or Smart-Eco mode) has a similar dependency.

Have been drving Stinger for two months now. Not even one time I noticed the engine shutting down during ilding at red light. The letter A with around arrow illuminated and not one time the engine RPM drops to zero. My Honda Accord engine shuts down almost at every traffic lights.

 

[D.J.]

Have been drving Stinger for two months now. Not even one time I noticed the engine shutting down during ilding at red light. The letter A with around arrow illuminated and not one time the engine RPM drops to zero. My Honda Accord engine shuts down almost at every traffic lights.

Congratulations. Target condition achieved.

 

[Thomby]

Have been drving Stinger for two months now. Not even one time I noticed the engine shutting down during ilding at red light.

Have you put a charger on your battery to top it off?

 

[Snicklefritz]

If the "A" in the circle is amber, you won't get your ISG to work. It has to be green.

I just read that the gov't subsidies that Obama put in place to pay for ISG feature are likely to be ended. I cheer, along with 99% of drivers everywhere, to hear this news.

 

[D.J.]

If the "A" in the circle is amber, you won't get your ISG to work. It has to be green.

I just read that the gov't subsidies that Obama put in place to pay for ISG feature are likely to be ended. I cheer, along with 99% of drivers everywhere, to hear this news.

I read this with joy

EPA Chief: Auto Start/Stop Technology Is Done

The dreaded auto start/stop feature used in so many modern cars, trucks, and SUVs could finally be done away with, thanks to EPA head Lee Zeldin. The administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency took to X and declared this morning the technology “everyone hates” is no longer going to be...

autos.yahoo.com

 

[Volfy]

Just read that article too. Cannot come soon enough. When even the EPA is trash-talking this feature, that's when you know it's a worthless POS.

 

[socalvn]

I installed Auto Stop Eliminator hasn't turned off since I don't need to push a button every startAutostop Eliminator for 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 Kia Stinger

 

[jdmvette]

^ i use that harness as well.

 

[Ah GetFd]

I had recently bought a new Mazda CX3. Quite popular here but not sure if it is still sold in the states. It has Stop Go and I dont like it.

When I decided on a new Stinger I was surprised to find that in Australia it did not have the stop go feature. If if it had. I wouldnt have bought it.

To my knowledge and I have the last MY 23 Stingers, they werent supplied with Stop/ Go here.

At the moment I turn off lane following I am sick of it. If I had to turn off Stop Go each time I would SELL IT.

My 2 cents......

 

[Buzzman12]

When I decided on a new Stinger I was surprised to find that in Australia it did not have the stop go feature. If if it had. I wouldnt have bought it.

To my knowledge and I have the last MY 23 Stingers, they werent supplied with Stop/ Go here.

If I had to turn off Stop Go each time I would SELL IT.

My 2 cents......

We have that feature in North America (I'm Canadian) due to regulations. I'm assuming Australia has no such laws, so that's why your Stinger doesn't have it.
I don't think I'd be quite so dramatic about it though. My Stinger has it, and I have gotten into the habit of turning it off as soon as I get in the car.
It is by no means a deal breaker. It's trivial actually.

 

[Alpinesting]

Since our dash shows the amber Stop/go light, I can assume that my battery is probably

not up to par and if we replace it then it will probably start working again since it has the original

battery. That harness seems simple enough to install though.

 

[Thomby]

I can assume that my battery is probably
not up to par and if we replace it then it will probably start working again

Before doing that, I would grab one of those "7 stage smart chargers" on amazon for $20 and let it fully top off your battery, then see if it starts working again. Apparently the Stinger will let the battery hang out at 12.3-12.5 volts, ie 70-80% charge, vs. the full 12.65v.

 

[D.J.]

Before doing that, I would grab one of those "7 stage smart chargers" on amazon for $20 and let it fully top off your battery, then see if it starts working again. Apparently the Stinger will let the battery hang out at 12.3-12.5 volts, ie 70-80% charge, vs. the full 12.65v.

Mine (original battery, build date 02/18) sits even lower....
I don't drive much at all these days, sadly, but the short spike to 14.4v is the only time I drove over this 5 day period, as graphed below.

I tested the accuracy of this voltage logging battery monitor (BM6) against a calibrated Agilent U1272A - it's quite accurate.




~ An hour after parking, my voltage was at 12.55 - yesterday

 

[Thomby]

Mine (original battery, build date 02/18) sits even lower....
I don't drive much at all these days, sadly, but the short spike to 14.4v is the only time I drove over this 5 day period, as graphed below.

So the question is, were you somewhat near full and gradually drained down to that level from sitting, or was it lower (with perhaps a temporary surface charge from the alternator) from when you turned it off?

Because my 2022 does not seem to have a notable parasitic drain, it just doesn't bother charging it up to max. I know modern alternators can vary their output, but I'm still not clear whether the car is selectively charging it to maximize mileage (through minimizing alternator drag), or to prolong battery life (through not leaving it fully charged if 70% of whatever capacity is plenty to crank the engine).

It's particularly puzzling that a car with several systems which can only activate above a certain charge state would routinely let that state sit below those thresholds.