Hard time considering Stinger because of one reason

[Ceramic_GT2]

I recently test drove a 2020 Stinger GT2 AWD against a Civic Type R (my other pick for my next daily of 5 years). I was pretty disappointed with how the Stinger handled in corners, however I loved everything else about the car.

I took a corner and there was just a lot of body roll and steering felt really light for a sport mode, not much steering feel too, and this car began to understeer when I tried to push it in the corners. Just not confidence inspiring like the civic type r.

Is there anything to help turn this into more of a buttoned down sports car? If it's stock, I wouldn't feel comfortable tossing it into corners in the canyons with all the body roll and understeer and somewhat lack of steering feedback. Or should I just get a type R since I feel like even if I do handling mods it'll still feel rather boat like and not like a buttoned down precision/zippy sports car.

I know there's the sway bars but does it really eliminate that much body roll and the understeer? Also is there anything to help improve the steering feel/response?

 

[Transmetal]

It's not a sports car. Maybe you should be looking at a sports coupe instead?

 

[Ozstung]

I recently test drove a 2020 Stinger GT2 AWD against a Civic Type R (my other pick for my next daily of 5 years). I was pretty disappointed with how the Stinger handled in corners, however I loved everything else about the car.

I took a corner and there was just a lot of body roll and steering felt really light for a sport mode, not much steering feel too, and this car began to understeer when I tried to push it in the corners. Just not confidence inspiring like the civic type r.

Is there anything to help turn this into more of a buttoned down sports car? If it's stock, I wouldn't feel comfortable tossing it into corners in the canyons with all the body roll and understeer and somewhat lack of steering feedback. Or should I just get a type R since I feel like even if I do handling mods it'll still feel rather boat like and not like a buttoned down precision/zippy sports car.

I know there's the sway bars but does it really eliminate that much body roll and the understeer? Also is there anything to help improve the steering feel/response?

Yes you have noticed the one achilles heal attributed to the Stinger. For me Eichbach springs and sways fixed that issue now the car really enjoys the bends, hills and dips.

I think you ll find the Stinger ticks most of the boxes you'll require. Value for money gets a big one.

 

[RedCal]

Front and rear sway bars....it's a cheap but excellent upgrade

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Firstly the Stinger is a larger car than the Civic so body roll when cornering is going to feel more noticeable.
Swaybars greatly improve body roll, so you may need to get a test drive of someone’s Stinger who has done this upgrade, you can also fit chassis braces which can also help.
IMO the Stinger is a GT & not a sports car, so you need to decide what your daily needs in the car will be & accept it for what it is....an overall good car.

 

[Nasscar]

Yes a bit unfair comparing a hot hatch such as the Type R against a grand tourer like the Stinger. Bit like comparing apples and oranges. The Stinger can be a bit like a fish out of water on the track but is still a fast and very comfortable car for the road. Plus the styling of the Stinger will age far more gracefully than the Type R and it has a far better interior.

 

[Aurelian]

For me Eichbach springs and sways fixed that issue now the car really enjoys the bends, hills and dips.

Ditto. Eibach springs also minimized dive on braking and squat on accel.

 

[Ceramic_GT2]

Firstly the Stinger is a larger car than the Civic so body roll when cornering is going to feel more noticeable.
Swaybars greatly improve body roll, so you may need to get a test drive of someone’s Stinger who has done this upgrade, you can also fit chassis braces which can also help.
IMO the Stinger is a GT & not a sports car, so you need to decide what your daily needs in the car will be & accept it for what it is....an overall good car.

I mainly daily drive on regular roads however when I do get on the back roads I go all out. It's hard to decide what's better to have in a daily for me...luxury or sporty driving dynamics first

 

[Ceramic_GT2]

Yes a bit unfair comparing a hot hatch such as the Type R against a grand tourer like the Stinger. Bit like comparing apples and oranges. The Stinger can be a bit like a fish out of water on the track but is still a fast and very comfortable car for the road. Plus the styling of the Stinger will age far more gracefully than the Type R and it has a far better interior.

Yeah only reason I even got to comparing these 2 was because after dealer discounts for the Stinger it's pretty much the same price as the type R

 

[Ceramic_GT2]

Yes you have noticed the one achilles heal attributed to the Stinger. For me Eichbach springs and sways fixed that issue now the car really enjoys the bends, hills and dips.

I think you ll find the Stinger ticks most of the boxes you'll require. Value for money gets a big one.

Yeah the Stinger is more comfortable to drive but with the springs and sways how is it in the turns? Like how much body boll does it eliminate for you? Also does it make the car feel more engaging in the bends?

I wished I knew someone who had this done to their Stinger where I live

 

[P22Tyler]

I don't think the Stinger handles badly around the bends. I thought I read somewhere that the 2020's don't come with the Pilot Sport 4's, that makes a big difference. When I put on my all seasons for the winter it's a big change in the grip level.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

I mainly daily drive on regular roads however when I do get on the back roads I go all out. It's hard to decide what's better to have in a daily for me...luxury or sporty driving dynamics first

Mine is a DD & I also love going all out on the back roads & with my upgrades this car ticks all the boxes for a luxury & sporty drive.

 

[Transmetal]

My 2020 has Primacy Tour on it but I live in MN. They don't really sell the rwd version up here. I've only seen the awd, which is what I have.

 

[CeramicGT001]

I recently test drove a 2020 Stinger GT2 AWD against a Civic Type R (my other pick for my next daily of 5 years). I was pretty disappointed with how the Stinger handled in corners, however I loved everything else about the car.

I took a corner and there was just a lot of body roll and steering felt really light for a sport mode, not much steering feel too, and this car began to understeer when I tried to push it in the corners. Just not confidence inspiring like the civic type r.

Is there anything to help turn this into more of a buttoned down sports car? If it's stock, I wouldn't feel comfortable tossing it into corners in the canyons with all the body roll and understeer and somewhat lack of steering feedback. Or should I just get a type R since I feel like even if I do handling mods it'll still feel rather boat like and not like a buttoned down precision/zippy sports car.

I know there's the sway bars but does it really eliminate that much body roll and the understeer? Also is there anything to help improve the steering feel/response?

I installed the eibach rear sway bar a few months ago on my 19 GT1 Awd and it was noticeable right away. The back end feels a lot better and more buttoned up. Also I have some mild lowering springs that I need to get installed which should help even more.

 

[G70 Owner]

Have you looked at a G70? Back seats are comparable to the R, but you do lose the functionality of a hatch if you really needed one

 

[Stiletto]

I came from a Focus RS with KW coilovers, camber plates, rear sway, end links, trailing arms and corner balance. So, you can imagine testing the Stinger GT AWD was a switch. Needless to say, the CTR and RS are literally built to carve the road like a Christmas ham. The Stinger is no slouch compared to it's competitors, but it will almost never be an autocross monster (unless you feel like dumping a bunch of money in parts and shedding hundreds of pounds). The biggest difference is in raw power...and creature comforts. If you don't care for those, get the CTR. Just don't be angry when you get dusted in a straight line by the Kia.

 

[SafetyPilotCal]

This is like comparing an F-35 to a 737 and complaining that the 737 is slower and can't maneuver as well. The Type-R is specifically designed around eating up corners with ease, but at the expense of ride quality and creature comforts. You really need to decide which is more important to you - do you want a comfortable, yet composed ride with all the bells and whistles? Or do you want a hopped up tuner car that is exhausting on long trips, but absolutely rips on the backroads?

The Stinger is not terrible at what it does, especially with upgraded sways, but at the end of the day, it's a 4000 lbs car and the Civic Type-R is damn near 1000 lbs less. It just isn't a reasonable comparison.

 

[CKeeler]

As others have stated, you need to decide what you would rather have. A high powered cruiser that can still carve with the right mods, or an all out sports car. Maybe a Jag F-type would fit the bill for you in that respect.
After having my Stinger for a few months I started to hate how the inside rear would lift in hard corners. Once I did the front and rear sway bars, it got rid of everything I hated. I haven’t truly pushed the car hard, but doing tight corners between 50-60mph and still knowing it has more was so satisfying. The same road I could only do 50 comfortably. Anymore than that and the body moved too much.

 

[Ceramic_GT2]

As others have stated, you need to decide what you would rather have. A high powered cruiser that can still carve with the right mods, or an all out sports car. Maybe a Jag F-type would fit the bill for you in that respect.
After having my Stinger for a few months I started to hate how the inside rear would lift in hard corners. Once I did the front and rear sway bars, it got rid of everything I hated. I haven’t truly pushed the car hard, but doing tight corners between 50-60mph and still knowing it has more was so satisfying. The same road I could only do 50 comfortably. Anymore than that and the body moved too much.

I don't need an all out sports car but I do want something that'll grip in the corners. I was going around 60 on a tight corner and the car almost understeered off the road. I usually push my cars hard around the corners so if sways can fix this issue then I wouldn't mind something nicer. I currently have a regular civic hatch so if I were to get a type R it wouldn't be too big of a change

 

[Ceramic_GT2]

I came from a Focus RS with KW coilovers, camber plates, rear sway, end links, trailing arms and corner balance. So, you can imagine testing the Stinger GT AWD was a switch. Needless to say, the CTR and RS are literally built to carve the road like a Christmas ham. The Stinger is no slouch compared to it's competitors, but it will almost never be an autocross monster (unless you feel like dumping a bunch of money in parts and shedding hundreds of pounds). The biggest difference is in raw power...and creature comforts. If you don't care for those, get the CTR. Just don't be angry when you get dusted in a straight line by the Kia.

I currently have a regular civic hatch with a few handling mods so a ctr wouldn't be a big change for me interior wise. Part of me thinks I should get a Stinger and do the sways or just get a ctr as I haven't owned a manual ever (only driven friends manual) plus I'm in my early 20s so maybe have one more fun car before something more mature like the Stinger