Stinger 2.0 performance

[Vermillion]

I'm mainly refering to the specs and films I've seen on Yt where people can't do it faster than 7-7.5sec. They also complain that 2.0 can't hold up the factory power resulting in ~235bhp after the dyno measure, that's why I'm surprised with Your results.

With launch control you might get closer to six seconds, although the UK specified 5.8 seconds for the 2.0l seems a little optimistic. Here you can't buy anything less than 95 RON / 91 (ish) AKI (AFAIK) which might adjust timings slightly but still the 330i only manages it in around 5.8 seconds and it's a fair bit lighter.

In terms of fuel on the 3.3 on a long test drive I got around 26MPG (21.6US) and 37MPG on the highway (31US), not half bad really.

 

[kielbasa]

All of tests I've seen on YT were made with launch control, none of them was able to make it in less than 7sec. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discredit anything, but these are just things I've seen hence my surprise.

 

[Sunseeker]

I've posted my 2.0 Dyno and my encounter with a Mustang on other posts. There is something strange with the 2.0 and its boosted performance with mods. I still cannot figure out how I walked down an Eco boost Mustang with 310hp and 350 tq....going WOT and this was in 90 degree temps. My estimated crank hp and torque puts me slightly under the Mustang's numbers. But to close on it the way the 2.0 did still baffles me. Again, I know that weight including fuel in tank and fuel octane are factors. I've outrun an Audi A6 3.0, Nissan Maxima with quad tips and made a Optima Sx Turbo look like a Forte. If I get the JB4, I will definitely get another Dyno and hit the track for my final attempt to squeeze what I can from the 2.0. Just in case you missed my other Dyno threads, the lower numbers are my mods without the Racechip.

 

[Jayphil]

I've posted my 2.0 Dyno and my encounter with a Mustang on other posts. There is something strange with the 2.0 and its boosted performance with mods. I still cannot figure out how I walked down an Eco boost Mustang with 310hp and 350 tq....going WOT and this was in 90 degree temps. My estimated crank hp and torque puts me slightly under the Mustang's numbers. But to close on it the way the 2.0 did still baffles me. Again, I know that weight including fuel in tank and fuel octane are factors. I've outrun and Audi A6 3.0, Nissan Maxima wide quad tips and made a Optima Sx Turbo look like a Forte. If I get the JB4, I will definitely get another Dyno and hit the track for my final attempt to squeeze what I can from the 2.0. Just in case you missed my other Dyno thread, the lower numbers are my mods without the Racechip.

I would like to see a Dragy or 1/4 track time because with the dyno I see you should barely reach mid-low 14s in the 1/4 mile and the cars are you beat (Audi 3.0t / Mustang) are mid-high 13s cars. Still a very good improvement from 15s to mid-low 14s for simple bolt-on mods on the 2.0t Stinger.

But again, street racing form light to light in not ideal situations is more about reaction time. Also street racing in traffic is not something that should not be encouraged...

 

[kielbasa]

I've posted my 2.0 Dyno and my encounter with a Mustang on other posts.

Is this the crank hp ? 225bhp on a stock map is much less than it should have..

 

[Sunseeker]

I would like to see a Dragy or 1/4 track time because with the dyno I see you should barely reach mid-low 14s in the 1/4 mile and the cars are you beat (Audi 3.0t / Mustang) are mid-high 13s cars. Still a very good improvement from 15s to mid-low 14s for simple bolt-on mods on the 2.0t Stinger.

But again, street racing form light to light in not ideal situations is more about reaction time. Also street racing in traffic is not something that should not be encouraged...

I am wanting to see 1/4 mile times as well. All runs mentioned were on wide open 3-4 lane highways. No light to light.....that's why I'm looking forward to the track.

 

[Sunseeker]

Is this the crank hp ? 225bhp on a stock map is much less than it should have..

The posted Dyno numbers are HP and TQ at the wheels. Estimated/calculated crank numbers are about 302.25hp and 334.59tq. (93 octane, 97 F temp). The 235 on chart is wheel hp with my mods minus the Racechip. So the Racechip RS states to add 40 crank hp, but only added 10 hp to the wheels on my Dyno. This tells me that my mods added 25hp to the wheels. I never got a baseline Dyno done, but seen others baselines that were both 199 hp and tq to the wheels.

 

[kielbasa]

Thanks, all's clear now. Looks promising. 302hp and 24mpg is really good, especially as for this power...

 

[Jayphil]

Thanks, all's clear now. Looks promising. 302hp and 24mpg is really good, especially as for this power...

Converted Crank power do not mean much you should stick with Dyno wheel hp. For example my BMW 535I 2011 xdrive (300chp stock) dyno around 265ish. Anyway, it is the power that is put to the ground that matters for acceleration, everything else is lost in between.

For comparison in stock form my BMW is good for 13.9-14.0 in the 1\4 mile, but weight considerably more than a base RWD 2.0T Stinger at 4233 lbs. With 30whp less power but also 400lbs less it should be a good match, the problem is that the transmission of the Stinger is not as fast as the ZF8 which greatly impact performance.

It will be very interesting to see actual 1/4 mile when you have a chance.

All in all I am sure a modified 2.0t Stinger RWD with much less weight, especially in front vs the 3.3 (even more a 3.3 awd) should be more fun to drive in the twisties!

 

[kielbasa]

It seems that owning a 2.0 is not much worse that owning a 3.3, especially when looking at the price point, mileage and performance after mods.
Could You tell me guys what are the approximate costs of all needed (recommended) mods for 2.0 (including remap) to reach 300bhp ?

 

[monusa]

There is something strange with the 2.0 and its boosted performance with mods. I still cannot figure out how I walked down an Eco boost Mustang with 310hp and 350 tq....going WOT and this was in 90 degree temps

This is the "exact" condition i felt when i went around the BMW 5 series( i think that during 2.0 production, some are built to the exact specs and are randomly sold to "lucky" buyers). Yes, it was not a new 5 series, but it was new enough to be able to run at a pretty good pace. Again, i don't have dyno numbers nor "hard copy" data to justify my claim. i base most of it upon my experience with a 5 sec car and the fact that i did test drive a GTS(the limited edition one) and when i punched that GTS, my 2.0T at MAP3 on jb4 is not looking at it's license plate.....more like it's door handle....My goal was never to produce a "blvd racer" but more like "this is not your grandma's 2.0"

 

[monusa]

It seems that owning a 2.0 is not much worse that owning a 3.3, especially when looking at the price point, mileage and performance after mods.

i have not once regretted getting the 2.0 instead of the 3.3. Some of the best parts of my workdays are the 30min. commute to work. 4 lane roads, just a handful of stoplights and smooth enough traffic flow to let the JB4 do it's thing a couple of times(an occasional Camaro/Mustang for suckers doesn't hurt either).......at the pricepoint, doesn't get much better!

 

[Sunseeker]

The trade off for me was either getting a stripped 3.3 in a color I didn't want or a 2.0 with better gas mileage, sunroof, projector headlamps, 8 inch touch screen w/navigation and a 17 speaker Harmon Kardon sound system. My mods cost me $ 800 for custom race catback, $400 for Racechip piggy back and $300 for the Injen intake. XLR Throttle Controller doesn't add power but it gives you quicker access to it.....especially when car is in Sport mode. I look forward to my hour commute as well. It's strange to see another Stinger only once per week despite being in the 4th largest metro area in the country. .Speaking of commute, there is so much traffic before the Pandemic that it wouldn't matter if you were driving a 3.3 or a Ferrari. Also still funny to see other cars pull up to your rear corner panel to see what you're driving.....especially when the exhaust sound matches the look of the Stinger. It doesn't help that my car is completely void of Kia badging. Sure, there is always the thought of what if I had a 3.3, especially with my mods.....but there is something rewarding about being the underdog and a sleeper.

 

[kielbasa]

So that's not a lot for the mods.. 3.3 is still much more expensive, but looking at price/milage/performance ratio, 2.0 is a bang for a buck to me.
How does it sound now, after exhaust change? Any film ?

BTW this is what I meant by saying that stock is not able to make 0-100 in less than 7,5sec. Just a random film from YT

And there is more of them. This just makes me wonder how it's possible to make it in 6sec, like You guys described. Are they doing anything wrong ?

 

[Vermillion]

It seems that owning a 2.0 is not much worse that owning a 3.3, especially when looking at the price point, mileage and performance after mods.

It really depends what you're looking for, my company car is a G20 330i (255HP, 400NM, 1455KG) and as an all rounder it's perfect. Nimble, comfortable, competent and returns 40MPG without too much effort. Although I would never describe as "thrilling" ultimately although the car has its moments.

The 3.3 GTS RWD fulfils the excitement factor but some seem to believe it's like owning an oversized ocelot, friendly on certain occasions but would happily maul you given half a chance. Personally I think that's part of its charm but we're all different, so in my very subjective opinion if you want a great allrounder 2.0T but if nothing but excitement plus performance will do start saving.

After all, no matter how much you mod a 2.0T it will never be on par because you could just mod a 3.3 (or not and keep your warranty / reliability in check). Although how much that actually matters is again subjective or irrelevant, I can see the argument for both sides and test driving them is the only way to find out.

 

[Sunseeker]

So that's not a lot for the mods.. 3.3 is still much more expensive, but looking at price/milage/performance ratio, 2.0 is a bang for a buck to me.
How does it sound now, after exhaust change? Any film ?

BTW this is what I meant by saying that stock is not able to make 0-100 in less than 7,5sec. Just a random film from YT

And there is more of them. This just makes me wonder how it's possible to make it in 6sec, like You guys described. Are they doing anything wrong ?

The exhaust (Kinney's Street Demon) sounds amazing. It puts the 3.3 exhaust note to shame to include a Mustang GT, Charger 392 and Challenger R/T at my work site. At first, the drone was too high. The exhaust was free flow and you could immediately feel performance difference, but was too loud for me at low rpms. I went back and they installed 2 smaller mufflers right before the tips and the car sounds great. It purrs at idle, and crackles and gurgles off throttle. When I Rev, it seems to have a perfect balance between American V8 and European exotic. To tell you the truth, I got lucky. To avoid rice car sound, you have to go full catback. I will post a video shortly that I hope will capture the sound as it is.

 

[Sunseeker]

Hopefully this YouTube link still works. This is before the small mufflers were added.

 

[kielbasa]

Sounds nice indeed, wouldn't say it's a 2.0.
Have to tell You guys I'm really really positively surpised what Kia has created. I would take this car over any other in the market now, hands down. No matter if it was 2.0 or 3.3. It's just looks great, has interesting interior, classic gauges (not some fancy chilidish and toy looking coloured lines and squares ), and is greatly equipped for almost half of the price of german competition. Yes, I know people who chose Panamera Turbo instead for 3x more, just because it's a Kia...but if You removed the badge two years ago and left the car in the street, noone would ever think or quess it was a Kia, rather Maserati or Jaguar.

 

[monusa]

BTW this is what I meant by saying that stock is not able to make 0-100 in less than 7,5sec. Just a random film from YT

Ok.....i stand corrected from earlier post......i still believe it is quicker than 7.5s (the video driver did not seem to really "stand on it" from the start) but i "assumed" that your comments were based upon "after mods".....my 2.0 is not stock and i had to lower the max boost in 1st and 2nd gear on the JB4 to keep from smoking the tires on take off.....that stock one didn't even chirp the tires......although, i have not poured as much money into my mods as some have....no need to. i got what i was looking for with JB4, K&N, and plugs. won't go any further because my plan is to get a '22M/Y GT. When i think about the additional costs, i still may re-consider and hold on to the 2.0T!!!

 

[Sunseeker]

Sounds nice indeed, wouldn't say it's a 2.0.
Have to tell You guys I'm really really positively surpised what Kia has created. I would take this car over any other in the market now, hands down. No matter if it was 2.0 or 3.3. It's just looks great, has interesting interior, classic gauges (not some fancy chilidish and toy looking coloured lines and squares ), and is greatly equipped for almost half of the price of german competition. Yes, I know people who chose Panamera Turbo instead for 3x more, just because it's a Kia...but if You removed the badge two years ago and left the car in the street, noone would ever think or quess it was a Kia, rather Maserati or Jaguar.

I agree about how the Stinger was designed, how it handles and drives. This is thanks to the designers from BMW (Albert B) and Audi (Peter S.) who joined Kia a few years ago. Those who buy the Accords and Camrys, Camaros and Chargers have no idea or they simply can't get over the Kia name and Badge. I owned a 2006 BMW 330i and 2011 335i and the Stinger is as good or even better than those 2 cars. I'm kind of enjoying the "exclusivity" of not seeing a Stinger as much I do as Nissan Altimas. Maybe Kia will need to branch off the Stinger and Telluride with a different name like Hyundai did with Genesis. Either way, I am content with the Stinger 2.0t with added performance and flair.