How many years of map updates and real-time traffic?

[bugaboo90]

Anyone know how many years of map updates do we get? And how many yrs of free sirius real-time traffic we get?

 

[DaJackson]

Sirius trial is 3 months. I’m assuming that covers music and traffic.

 

[mldavis2]

Anyone know how many years of map updates do we get? And how many yrs of free sirius real-time traffic we get?

Yes, 3 months for Sirius trial period. Maps vary with the Kia model, but newer ones (according to the Kia web site) are likely 2X/year and $160-180 (I assume each.) Pretty frustrating after 10+ years with my Garmin GPS with free lifetime map updates. I don't know who Kia uses for their proprietary map services, but I can't imagine they are kept up to date as well as Garmin and Magellan - but what do I know. Kia is international so they have to take care of the Aussies, Europeans, Russians and Canadians. Expensive if your GPS devices are limited in number.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

That's the benefit of CarPlay. Google maps on your phone is always up to date...

 

[mldavis2]

That's the benefit of CarPlay. Google maps on your phone is always up to date...

Google maps or Waze both of which I have on my Android. I haven't used Waze yet. The wife likes Google maps and she's my navigator. But both of those require a good 4G signal to work consistently and out in my part of nowhere land, I don't always have a 4G signal. It also sucks your bandwidth having it running all day during a trip. I still like my Garmin with lifetime updates, but it needs replacing because the touch screen is getting wonky after 10 years or so. Just nowhere now to stick it on that Stinger dash. My judgement on the Kia Nav system will have to await arrival of my wheels, but it's expensive to maintain so that may go once it's out of free time.

And FYI in case anyone is interested, the estimated data usage to run Google maps on your funny fone for navigation is about 36MB/hour or 288MB for an 8 hour trip. Not too bad if you have a couple GB and don't use your phone constantly for other online stuff.

 

[voon]

7 years in Switzerland (6 updates, one per year)

 

[mldavis2]

7 years in Switzerland (6 updates, one per year)

OK, thanks. Not clear from the online information. They talk about once or twice a year and $160-180 per update, but I think that comes from their page that covers all their Kia models, not just the Stinger. And it might be different in the U.S. -- different maps, different area to cover.....

 

[voon]

And it might be different in the U.S. -- different maps, different area to cover.....

That's very possible .. I'd not take my swiss experience for the same as over in Trumpistan. These kind of warranty extras etc quite often vary by country.

 

[bugaboo90]

I believe you can download the map while you are home on wifi to limit cell data usage.

Google maps or Waze both of which I have on my Android. I haven't used Waze yet. The wife likes Google maps and she's my navigator. But both of those require a good 4G signal to work consistently and out in my part of nowhere land, I don't always have a 4G signal. It also sucks your bandwidth having it running all day during a trip. I still like my Garmin with lifetime updates, but it needs replacing because the touch screen is getting wonky after 10 years or so. Just nowhere now to stick it on that Stinger dash. My judgement on the Kia Nav system will have to await arrival of my wheels, but it's expensive to maintain so that may go once it's out of free time.

And FYI in case anyone is interested, the estimated data usage to run Google maps on your funny fone for navigation is about 36MB/hour or 288MB for an 8 hour trip. Not too bad if you have a couple GB and don't use your phone constantly for other online stuff.

 

[eflyguy]

Exactly - offline maps. Just select the area(s) you want and download over wifi.

I took an old iPhone with me to Italy last year and used it solely for navigation - kept it in airplane mode the whole time. Worked great, especially when needed for navigating the narrow streets of some of those ancient cities..

 

[mldavis2]

I believe you can download the map while you are home on wifi to limit cell data usage.

Never really considered that, except that a lot of my trips are long runs across many states - big map. (The Stinger IS a Gran Turismo, after all, not a grocery hauler.)

 

[Chris]

But both of those require a good 4G signal to work consistently and out in my part of nowhere land, I don't always have a 4G signal. It also sucks your bandwidth having it running all day during a trip

Not necessarily true.. You can download maps at home via WiFi before you go on a trip. I always have a local map downloaded. You can also download Google trips and as long as your itenerary was emailed to your Gmail account it will automatically download maps. For example, I fly around for work a lot. Delta sends me an email, Google automatically sees that as a trip and downloads the maps of where I am going. You can also manually open Google maps and download whatever maps you want. (Open Google maps, click the little hamburger icon, and chose offline maps)

 

[mldavis2]

Thanks, guys. Never knew you could do that with Google maps -- never needed to with my Garmin. I do things the old fashioned way -- with a road atlas on long trips, then turn Google maps on when I get where I'm going and need city directions.

Also, as I posted above, the funny fones suck 36MB per hour. So a 10 hour trip would take 1/3GB of data - most services are around 2-10GB per month, so it wouldn't be a big hit on a multi-GB account.

 

[voon]

Google Navi is actually quite good and also has features like colroed indications of traffic load etc.

 

[CDv6]

That's the benefit of CarPlay. Google maps on your phone is always up to date...

You must be talking about Android Auto, because Google Maps cannot be projected via Apple CarPlay (nor can Waze). I never wade into cell phone religious discussions, but the map projection options are a clear advantage for Android Auto. I might look into aftermarket projection options down the road a bit. There are some potentially interesting ones on the market.

But both of those require a good 4G signal to work consistently and out in my part of nowhere land, I don't always have a 4G signal.

I was out of state in the mountains recently, and lost LTE for long enough to screw me on Waze navigation. Definitely a situation where I wished my car (at the time) had nav, or that I had offline access to the route info.

 

[mldavis2]

Surely Apple has an equivalent to Google maps of Waze!

 

[Berzerker]

Surely Apple has an equivalent to Google maps of Waze!

Yes, it's Apple Maps, but they're not nearly as developed as Google Maps or Waze. Developers have to specifically build in CarPlay support, neither Google Maps nor Waze have done so yet.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

You must be talking about Android Auto, because Google Maps cannot be projected via Apple CarPlay (nor can Waze). I never wade into cell phone religious discussions, but the map projection options are a clear advantage for Android Auto. I might look into aftermarket projection options down the road a bit. There are some potentially interesting ones on the market.




I was out of state in the mountains recently, and lost LTE for long enough to screw me on Waze navigation. Definitely a situation where I wished my car (at the time) had nav, or that I had offline access to the route info.

Yep...Apple maps is what I meant. I'd prefer google but something is better than nothing

 

[tofu]

Do note that you still need a data connection to do navigation in Google Maps though. Downloading the offline maps will at least get you the map data, but it needs to connect to the servers to handle the actual routing guidance/traffic.

 

[Chris]

Do note that you still need a data connection to do navigation in Google Maps though. Downloading the offline maps will at least get you the map data, but it needs to connect to the servers to handle the actual routing guidance/traffic.

Traffic yes, everything else no. I was in the middle of nowhere New Mexico with no cell signal for over 2 hours and Google maps worked just fine.

I've also taken it way up in the mountains of Utah where no cell signal exists, and used Google maps on the atv for days on end.

I've also used it in the middle of the carribean on scuba diving trips, no cell signal there either.