What is the Stinger Target Market?

[itguy61]

Some people are suspicious when they see a low post count without listing a Stinger in your signature. Hence the troll comments. I really don't care but the arguing is not constructive. Not just blaming you, it takes two to tango.

 

[Moses]

It seems everyone has forgotten the general tone of this thread. Everyone on this thread has expressed their opinion on what the target market is based on their own general experience of what drove them to the Stinger. If someone compared it to an S7 and decided the Stinger was practically similar for their tastes without the price tag of an Audi, that's their choice. I will say, German cars weren't even a factor for me, I really like Audi and Mercedes but hate BMW. However, the cost of ownership is too high on German cars for me. A closer comparison for me was the Taurus and Camry lol. The deciding factor for me was performance and I didn't want front wheel drive. I can see the comparison between the S7 and the Stinger based on body lines, but I don't know what differences there is in the technological aspects. Maybe don't try and shit on each other for differences in opinions?

 

[Kia Stinger]

Maybe don't try and shit on each other for differences in opinions?

I suggest the same. Keep the conversation respectful. Everyone is allowed their opinion. I don't expect to see any further disrespectful comments in this discussion - amongst other things I've noticed...

 

[MerlintheMad]

Are you floating a conflicting conspiracy theory? Does the hoard have the same theory for everyone who disagrees with them or do we each get our own individual theories? Who is in charge of theory disbursement?

I need to speak to management.

Not at all. But if you were Forz, it wouldn't be the last time a forum had a former member rejoin under a different handle. It is lamentable that the Net seems to discourage people from simply being ourselves.

 

[Kia Stinger]

Not at all. But if you were Forz, it wouldn't be the last time a forum had a former member rejoin under a different handle. It is lamentable that the Net seems to discourage people from simply being ourselves.

He's not Forza......

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Yup, the S7 is such a rare car that no one else on this forum other than you has ever been in one.

Here's the problem, on one hand, you're saying they share "almost every feature" on the other you're saying you didn't mention "materials, build quality or service." To most people build quality, material quality, and service are "features" that are shopped during the buying process. Throughout your comparison, you're purposely omitting "features" that paint a positive light on the S7 and focusing on "features" that make the Stinger look better. This is the very definition of bias.

If you had stopped there I would have agreed with your every point.

Instead, you went full retard man.

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LOL and just saw your sarcastic comments and obvious confusion. I really didnt want to go back and forth anymore, but since you're having issues understanding and mentioned a strange interpretation of a vehicles "features" I'll try one more time to simply this for you.

Yup, the S7 is such a rare car that no one else on this forum other than you has ever been in one.

I'm sure tons of people on this forum have been in one or even owned a S7, but based on your comments and not seeing all the similarities that my friend and other S7 owners have mentioned to me shows how little you know about that car.

Here's the problem, on one hand, you're saying they share "almost every feature" on the other you're saying you didn't mention "materials, build quality or service." To most people build quality, material quality, and service are "features" that are shopped during the buying process. Throughout your comparison, you're purposely omitting "features" that paint a positive light on the S7 and focusing on "features" that make the Stinger look better. This is the very definition of bias.

That's a very unusual interpretation of what a vehicles "features" are and I see that your word choice is what's causing your confusion. Material & build quality do not show up on a vehicles "feature" list and by definition are qualities not features. Same goes for "service", its not a comparable window sticker item and is also a quality of Audi's service center not the vehicle itself. My comments were specifically talking about comparable vehicle "features" and nobody but yourself was talking about comparing Audi's service, or their build & material quality.

So, you are the one adding other unrelated benefits that a luxury brand has to compare and try to justify the extra cost. That's your bias showing, but it actually works against you and shows the Stinger in even more of a positive light. The fact that luxury brand fans must resort to bragging about their service centers or slightly better "fit & finish" to account for an extra $30-$40k really shows how far Kia has come. Most people that aren't brand snobs would rather pay about HALF as much for a GT2 and save almost $40k to sacrifice Valcona leather vs Nappa leather and a few hidden pieces of plastic.

Lastly, my cousin is mentally disabled so I don't appreciate your sad attempt at humor and suggest you stop trying to disrespect and insult others.

Okay I'm done with this conversation and trying to teach people when they are too biased & argumentative to learn. Enjoy living in your bubble and lets just agree to disagree. I wish you the best and have a nice day.

 

[me&stinger]

What was Kia Stinger's market? Me.

 

[Lord3Putt]

LOL and just saw your sarcastic comments and obvious confusion. I really didnt want to go back and forth anymore, but since you're having issues understanding and mentioned a strange interpretation of a vehicles "features" I'll try one more time to simply this for you.

I'm sure tons of people on this forum have been in one or even owned a S7, but based on your comments and not seeing all the similarities that my friend and other S7 owners have mentioned to me shows how little you know about that car.

That's a very unusual interpretation of what a vehicles "features" are and I see that your word choice is what's causing your confusion. Material & build quality do not show up on a vehicles "feature" list and by definition are qualities not features. Same goes for "service", its not a comparable window sticker item and is also a quality of Audi's service center not the vehicle itself. My comments were specifically talking about comparable vehicle "features" and nobody but yourself was talking about comparing Audi's service, or their build & material quality.

So, you are the one adding other unrelated benefits that a luxury brand has to compare and try to justify the extra cost. That's your bias showing, but it actually works against you and shows the Stinger in even more of a positive light. The fact that luxury brand fans must resort to bragging about their service centers or slightly better "fit & finish" to account for an extra $30-$40k really shows how far Kia has come. Most people that aren't brand snobs would rather pay about HALF as much for a GT2 and save almost $40k to sacrifice Valcona leather vs Nappa leather and a few hidden pieces of plastic.

Lastly, my cousin is mentally disabled so I don't appreciate your sad attempt at humor and suggest you stop trying to disrespect and insult others.

Okay I'm done with this conversation and trying to teach people when they are too biased & argumentative to learn. Enjoy living in your bubble and lets just agree to disagree. I wish you the best and have a nice day.

Oh the hypocrisy

 

[Lawrence Williams]

That's laughable. Where did this 90% figure come from? What year S7 are you comparing the GT2 to? The tech in a GT2 is comparable to the tech in a 2012 A7, the materials and build quality are no where near the level of any year A or S7s, and the service after the sale isn't even in the same solar system.

I guess if we're giving made up percentages and comparing it to a 2020 S7 that 90% figure would fall to what ,<50%? Both have doors, a hatch, engines, tires, seats, and steering wheels. But the Stinger is no Audi. And if you sincerely believe a 2020 GT2 can hold a match to a 2020 S7 it's obvious you are either extremely biased or have never been in or driven a 2020 S7.

While biased Stinger owners are sitting around saying "I drive smaller, almost Audi S7, with old Audi tech for $20k less" there are no S7 drivers on the Audi forum saying "I wish I would have saved my money and got a Stinger instead."

"A Kia Stinger is 78.53% of a Continental GT for a fraction of the cost!"

Let's all be reasonable here...lest we risk losing our credibility.

I compared the Stinger to a 2017 S7 ....new 100k ; CPO 58-75k mileage depending ....the S7 V8 450hp is obviously the better engine especially with the highway 4 cylinder deactivation feature. The interior is dated , lacks creature comforts, AND overall reliability which can't be argued.....the cost to own factor is off the charts.

Saying that, sure most Audi/BMW/MB cars have better "build quality " as they have a massive head start on making upper echelon cars. Knocking Kia for it's attempt to compete with the "big boys" shows your slighted view of the brand. Each brand started somewhere and if this the turning point for Kia as brand (it should be) then be glad you're apart of the ecosystem.

It's really funny what names mean to some people.....

 

[YEH]

Pretty much the 4 Series GC, the A5/S5 Sportback and something like the Arteon.

Something like the 3 Series and A4 compete more directly w/ the G70, being 4-door box sedans.

Can certainly cross-shop against the 6 Series GC and A7/S7, but those 2 are on another level/segment price/interior-wise (something like the K900 would be more of a competitor, notwithstanding the diff. in bodystyle) - the Stinger, 4 Series GC, A5/S5 Sportback and Arteon are all entry-level liftbacks.

 

[Jklotz]

I like Audi's. My allroad was a great car. That being said, I don't want to spend that much on a car or that much to maintain a car. Doesn't fit my lifestyle or goals at this point in time.

The stinger is at the top of what I'm willing to pay for a car. I feel like I got a lot more car for my budget than anything else out there in my price range. I consider myself lucky to have it.

Is it comparable to an S7? I don't know. That's not a car I'd have considered. I have other priorities that are more important at the moment.

It's the best car in the $50k range for my needs. I don't see any point in comparisons with more expensive cars.

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

The whole argument is ridiculous and we have had one user here constantly shifting goalposts in his quest to be "right" but nearly every gearhead considers "feature" to be in regard to functions offered by the vehicle, in a separate category from "fit & finish" which is in reference build quality and materials. And, in reality, the Stinger isn't as far behind Audi as he seems to imply, especially if you compare to the A7 and S4 which are closer to direct competitors for the Stinger. What's the sticker price on an S7, again? That the Stinger holds up as well as it does when compared to the competition at its MSRP is a feat in and of itself, but when you factor in that it's usually discounted $3,000-$8,000 off of that, it's a downright phenomenal deal.

 

[Nuthadey]

The whole argument is ridiculous and we have had one user here constantly shifting goalposts in his quest to be "right" but nearly every gearhead considers "feature" to be in regard to functions offered by the vehicle, in a separate category from "fit & finish" which is in reference build quality and materials. And, in reality, the Stinger isn't as far behind Audi as he seems to imply, especially if you compare to the A7 and S4 which are closer to direct competitors for the Stinger. What's the sticker price on an S7, again? That the Stinger holds up as well as it does when compared to the competition at it's MSRP is a feat in and of itself, but when you factor in that it's usually discounted $3,000-$8,000 off of that, it's a downright phenomenal deal.

Lmao, how does "every gearhead" characterize passive aggressive posts? No sense in beating around the bush. We all know who the pronoun is you're talking about. I ignore y'all's posts for a month in an attempt to let sleeping dogs lay but some of you really want to argue the brilliance of ole boy's "Stingers are 90% of S7s" point, (which is what this is all about, btw).

"Every gearhead agrees with what I post", "Stingers are 90% of S7s." These aren't simply ridiculous, they're completely random, made up, unprovable opinions posted as facts to perpetuate this wholly irrational circle jerk.

Everyone is a victim, angry at the nemesis who declared Stingers are no S7. The audacity! CLUTCH THOSE PEARLS! Did I denigrate the Stinger? Nope. I said the build quality, tech, and service aren't comparable. And I stand by that. I didn't start the comparison between the two, someone else did. But you all seem to feel like anyone who doesn't believe the Stinger is the best car ever built is attacking it and thus must be your enemy. Fine, if you must have one, I'm happy to be your virtual enemy.

But for what? I've ignored you all for a month and nothing in my life changed one bit. If you wish to beat the shit out of this horse I'm fine with that, I just no longer see the point of it. Enjoy your 360 degree tugNpull. I'd rather pick my nose and eat crayons than sanction this buffoonery any further, Gearhead.

 

[TimT]

Lmao, how does "every gearhead" characterize passive aggressive posts? No sense in beating around the bush. We all know who the pronoun is you're talking about. I ignore y'all's posts for a month in an attempt to let sleeping dogs lay but some of you really want to argue the brilliance of ole boy's "Stingers are 90% of S7s" point, (which is what this is all about, btw).

"Every gearhead agrees with what I post", "Stingers are 90% of S7s." These aren't simply ridiculous, they're completely random, made up, unprovable opinions posted as facts to perpetuate this wholly irrational circle jerk.

Everyone is a victim, angry at the nemesis who declared Stingers are no S7. The audacity! CLUTCH THOSE PEARLS! Did I denigrate the Stinger? Nope. I said the build quality, tech, and service aren't comparable. And I stand by that. I didn't start the comparison between the two, someone else did. But you all seem to feel like anyone who doesn't believe the Stinger is the best car ever built is attacking it and thus must be your enemy. Fine, if you must have one, I'm happy to be your virtual enemy.

But for what? I've ignored you all for a month and nothing in my life changed one bit. If you wish to beat the shit out of this horse I'm fine with that, I just no longer see the point of it. Enjoy your 360 degree tugNpull. I'd rather pick my nose and eat crayons than sanction this buffoonery any further, Gearhead.

This has been mentioned previously but your level of general intelligence cannot be too high considering you come on a Stinger dedicated forum to try and prove that someone elses subjective opinion is wrong and yours is superior through passive agressive post content, mainly centered around mocking someones choice of words and not being able to actually provide anything insightful.

Easier for you to piss off from the forum permanently rather than continue on this nonsense chirade. Highly doubt you would be missed.

PS: there's a unfollow topic button available so you don't get e-mails when someone responds here.

 

[me&stinger]

And there's always the "Ignore" feature.

https://stingerforum.org/account/ignored

 

[Whitt937]

wow the first 2 pages were constructive..

I wanted a fun to drive hatch back with android auto..
I actually was torn between the stinger and a VW GTI.. I know those are not supposed to compare, but that was my short list.
The style, torque, practicality, and VALUE is what really got me..

 

[matt0127]

I was considering a base stinger, RAV4 XLE, or Challenger sxt with drive convenience package. Pretty different vehicles, I know. I ultimately chose the stinger because I thought it was the best value, plus the warranty. Also RAV4 didn't have Android auto.

 

[namja]

wow the first 2 pages were constructive..

I wanted a fun to drive hatch back with android auto..
I actually was torn between the stinger and a VW GTI.. I know those are not supposed to compare, but that was my short list.
The style, torque, practicality, and VALUE is what really got me..

Mine was similar, I did Stinger vs Golf R. But no dealer wants to budge lower than like $2k off MSRP...

 

[westcoastGT]

Weathertech .....................Bawaaaaa ( the founder group will only get this )

 

[fast88fox]

What I shopped was a bit different than what i think most people here are looking at. I was looking for a 4 door car that can hold 4 people comfortable and carry some luggage and stuff. I was shopping the Honda Accord sport, Camry sport (or whatever Toyota calls it), Ford Taurus Sho, Dodge Charger (Not really a fan after I drove one) and similar vehicles. I basically had to scratch the Taurus off my list since Ford stopped making them. I just didn't want a boring family car, everyday cruiser. i was never looking at a BMW or Mercedes or Audi. i choose the stinger because, for the money...It was very good looking and fast, AWD and full of features for the price point it was at.