What's your favorite Mando setting! Post it!

[MerlintheMad]

Now I wonder, how do you feel too much stiffness in handling?

That is not possible. More Stiffness in the handling is always better.

Here are the raw values for people who want to set it identically:

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As you say, handling may be tweaked a little further.
Now I wonder, how do you feel too much stiffness in handling?

I am NOT going to join this. Look at that speed chart; what are you supposed to do, change your settings for the current "ideal" speed, or visa versa? "Gah! I am not up to (down to) my ideal speed; my ride and handling are OFF by half." Etc.

Mando NO! Therein lies madness.

But, have fun. And I'll enjoy reading of your experiences. (My "experiences" are for my eyes only. )

 

[robz32]

You do know that those values can be changed @MerlintheMad

 

[MerlintheMad]

You do know that those values can be changed @MerlintheMad

Not sure what you mean. I'm leafing through the earlier thread, which is somewhat lengthy. I haven't seen anything yet that clears up my misconception. What I see are optimal speeds for each setting, and no matter what you change there will always be optimal speeds: higher or lower speeds will result in, what, exactly? Will this even be something that you can quantify and realistically compare as you drive?

 

[xot1]

I am NOT going to join this. Look at that speed chart; what are you supposed to do, change your settings for the current "ideal" speed, or visa versa? "Gah! I am not up to (down to) my ideal speed; my ride and handling are OFF by half." Etc.

Mando NO! Therein lies madness.

I don't understand your reaction.
If you want decent ride quality at low speed and good stability at high speed fixed settings won't do the job. Our stock suspension probably has a dynamic profile too.
For example having a stiff front damping gives a harsh ride at low speed but improves stability at high speed. If you use a fixed value you have to compromise. Being able to adjust it according to speed is a great thing.

Maybe you didn't understand the feature.
It allows you to set the damping for different speed zone, so once you set it, the car will adapt the damping according to speed, automatically (takes few milliseconds). So for example the more you accelerate the more the car can stiffens for stability, and soften when you decelerate it for a smoother ride.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I don't understand your reaction.
If you want decent ride quality at low speed and good stability at high speed fixed settings won't do the job. Our stock suspension probably has a dynamic profile too.
For example having a stiff front damping gives a harsh ride at low speed but improves stability at high speed. If you use a fixed value you have to compromise. Being able to adjust it according to speed is a great thing.

I don't want to continue the other thread's discussion here. I'll just observe the comparisons that you make with each other. To me the stock Stinger suspension provides a good highway speed ride and excellent handling. My experience at extralegal speeds is limited, but I did observe that the faster I went the more impressed I was with how "buttoned down" the Stinger is. So the stock ECS is already a good compromise for me and probably most other drivers. But having a new tool to play with is practically irresistible!

 

[xot1]

I don't want to continue the other thread's discussion here. I'll just observe the comparisons that you make with each other. To me the stock Stinger suspension provides a good highway speed ride and excellent handling. My experience at extralegal speeds is limited, but I did observe that the faster I went the more impressed I was with how "buttoned down" the Stinger is. So the stock ECS is already a good compromise for me and probably most other drivers. But having a new tool to play with is practically irresistible!

After using good coilovers for almost a year, the stock ECS felt really bad once I removed them.

 

[MerlintheMad]

After using good coilovers for almost a year, the stock ECS felt really bad once I removed them.

Why did you remove them?

 

[xot1]

Why did you remove them?

Because it was harsh on very bumpy roads and I had to drive on those kind of roads more lately. I was also curious about the ECS module.
But I can assure you, if the coilovers I had were a 9/10 in terms of handling/stability/ride quality compromise, I would say stock with sways is a 4/10 and after playing with the mando module I'd say it comes close to a 7/10.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Because it was harsh on very bumpy roads and I had to drive on those kind of roads more lately. I was also curious about the ECS module.
But I can assure you, if the coilovers I had were a 9/10 in terms of handling/stability/ride quality compromise, I would say stock with sways is a 4/10 and after playing with the mando module I'd say it comes close to a 7/10.

So, in your opinion, any stock Stinger without ECS is also only a 4/10 ride and handling?

 

[xot1]

So, in your opinion, any stock Stinger without ECS is also only a 4/10 ride and handling?

Yes. At least that is what my first impression was when I drove the car right after putting back the stock suspension.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Yes. At least that is what my first impression was when I drove the car right after putting back the stock suspension.

Let me ask that question a different way: a Stinger without any computer monitored suspension is just hardware: and is that bone stock Stinger suspension a 4/10 ride and handling? The only improvement has to be hardware, i.e. sway bars, coil overs and springs. This Mando box only interfaces with an already existing ECS. Is that right?

 

[xot1]

Let me ask that question a different way: a Stinger without any computer monitored suspension is just hardware: and is that bone stock Stinger suspension a 4/10 ride and handling? The only improvement has to be hardware, i.e. sway bars, coil overs and springs. This Mando box only interfaces with an already existing ECS. Is that right?

Correct, ECS that controls bump and rebound damping. But don't get too obsessed about the 4/10. That was just a number to replace words to describe my impression. I am no expert.

 

[Waynerm002]

You guys canPM each other with this discussion, so as not to create pages of back on forth on something that has nothing to do with the thread.

 

[xot1]

This entire page can be deleted IMHO.

 

[Waynerm002]

I made the adjustment xot1 posted and took it for a spin. It’s actually a good setting for me! I might tune the rear a little firmer at higher speeds though. It felt a bit soft on some dips at higher speeds.

Update - I adjusted my setting to 20/26 on the ride from 0-60mph, and have it match xot1’s settings. I’ll see how it rides on crappy roads and report back later this week. So far, I like how this new setting feels.

 

[xot1]

I made the adjustment xot1 posted and took it for a spin. It’s actually a good setting for me! I might tune the rear a little firmer at higher speeds though. It felt a bit soft on some dips at higher speeds.

Update - I adjusted my setting to 20/26 on the ride from 0-60mph, and have it match xot1’s settings. I’ll see how it rides on crappy roads and report back later this week. So far, I like how this new setting feels.

Glad you liked it.
I will try your adjusted settings too.

 

[ScottM]

I seem to end up back at the app's sport mode as the best feel for me. Seems the biggest issue, relatively speaking, is the bouncy feeling using anything else. The app's sport mode seems to be the least amount for me at the moment. Having said that, I know that there is a lot of room for tweaking. I'll keep following and tweaking as I have time. I so wish we had the apps comfort/sport settings. One day...one day...

 

[itguy61]

Scott,
Do you find the ride to be noticeably different than the base sport mode?

 

[ScottM]

Scott,
Do you find the ride to be noticeably different than the base sport mode?

Noticeably for me... yes. I wouldn't say dramatic, but I can tell driving the same routes as before I have a less bumpy ride (more composed). Also, I know when I take off with some power the front end doesn't feel like it lifts as it did before. If that makes sense.

 

[Manaz]

Also, I know when I take off with some power the front end doesn't feel like it lifts as it did before. If that makes sense.

The lifting in the front end under strong acceleration is quite disconcerting...