Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[Angel]

Agree, its either a Corvette or just totally fabricated. Either way 90% of us knew it was bogus all along.

I think you are being nice when you say 90% of us knew it was bogus. I seen a lot of people jump on the band wagon of 10.9, I wont mention any names. I would say the minority of us knew it was bogus.

 

[Michael Locke]

Very informative and you solved my mystery. As advertised gains on stock boost and marginal gains on tuned boost.
This also explains why the tuned catless cars don't perform much better than the tuned stock exhaust cars.

Its when the power comes on that's important, not just the numbers. Spooling up quicker most certainly has helped me gap others. I've posted a run recently on fbook of me vs a OEm DP 2019 GT RWD. He was on map 1, I was on mode 1. I put a few cars on him. He blames the dp's but i say weight wise, we pretty much break even. He's a good dude and we will run again!

 

[Angel]

I dynoed mine a couple weeks ago, but it was on a Mustang dyno. Thus, a couple people did not find the numbers accurate, especially the high torque.

Just curious what numbers did you get?

 

[Angel]

I wonder what is better to improve your 1/4 mile time and intercooler or WMI? Any thoughts? I think the intercooler is more beneficial for daily driving but I feel the WMI will allow for more power and be more efficient on a 1/4 mile run.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Just curious what numbers did you get?

 

[Tonkabob]

I wonder what is better to improve your 1/4 mile time and intercooler or WMI? Any thoughts? I think the intercooler is more beneficial for daily driving but I feel the WMI will allow for more power and be more efficient on a 1/4 mile run.

My order to drop 1/4 mile times would be:
ECU Tune
or
Piggy Back
WMI
Intake
Wheels
FMIC
Catback, DP, MP all marginal but probably good to do at least 1 or 2 of the 3.

(edit) maybe flip WMI and intake those are close and most would do intake first.

 

[Tonkabob]

I think you are being nice when you say 90% of us knew it was bogus. I seen a lot of people jump on the band wagon of 10.9, I wont mention any names. I would say the minority of us knew it was bogus.

I'm not sure there were that many believers, I only counted about 4 or 5, but they were very out spoken about it.

 

[Michael Locke]

Kato,
Did he have any type of file to give you? Just a really weird axis etc...

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Kato,
Did he have any type of file to give you? Just a really weird axis etc...

No. Sadly, he didn’t. It was just to test my output gains from stock (I did have my intake on though), to JB4, to JB4 + WMI.

 

[brancky3]

Its when the power comes on that's important, not just the numbers. Spooling up quicker most certainly has helped me gap others. I've posted a run recently on fbook of me vs a OEm DP 2019 GT RWD. He was on map 1, I was on mode 1. I put a few cars on him. He blames the dp's but i say weight wise, we pretty much break even. He's a good dude and we will run again!

Do you guys only have 91 octane available? It was a cool video to watch, but I'd like to see higher maps / modes. JB4 map 1 is weaksauce!

 

[Terry@BMS]

Boy this is like explain it to a child lol. If you cant understand it from what has been presented I am sorry I wont help you anymore. Facts are its fake its from a corvette end of story keep trying.

So what you're saying is you don't really know the facts? That's fine. Maybe someone who does can clear it up for us.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Do you guys only have 91 octane available? It was a cool video to watch, but I'd like to see higher maps / modes. JB4 map 1 is weaksauce!

So is Mode 1 lol. I would compare Mode 2 to Map 3 on Lap 3 vs Jb4 and Mode 3 to Map 8. JB4 does have quite a few in between maps which are nice. But stacked next to each other the lap3 has been doing work. Hopefully we see a bunch at the track this season. I think its a well put together product, just doesnt have a lot of track time like the jb4 so far. The major benefits seem to be the flawless transition to being completely catless. They are so confident I was offered a Lap3 with full money back guarantee if it didnt solve all the issues I am having. I just dont want to continue with piggybacks. The next thing i do for my car will be a Tune or nothing else lol.

IN MY OPINION the lap3 was designed and developed knowing they would have catless users and a bunch of them while i think the jb4 was more adjunct to it. Just like the JB4 was designed to work with Meth right off the bat and the lap3 you need a separate controller. Pros and cons. I think if you want to go to much more modified car the lap 3 would be best. Jb4 is definitely more for the masses though and will suit many more needs and requirements. Of course if you want the best bang for your buck IN MY OPINION a actual tune would be best. I am seeing people running the idea of stacking the two together and that seems pretty good for a meth controller.

 

[Sales@Tork]

So what you're saying is you don't really know the facts? That's fine. Maybe someone who does can clear it up for us.

No we all know the facts and they have been posted lol. You simply do not comprehend it. But its ok man keep acting dumb its worked this long for you.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Meanwhile, I'm running 12.1-12.0 with 18.5psi peak boost with just Dp's and intake.

I'm all about more with less!

Bro, can you please stop taking passive aggressive jabs at anyone running a JB4? Its uncalled for and is getting annoying.

You also keep quoting other members unverified comments as facts even though most of them are incorrect, or have already been disproven. The JB4 on its highest setting, Map8 doesnt even hit 19psi.(Log attached at bottom for proof). While almost all dyno's directly from lap3 show 1.32-1.5bar(19-22psi!)

Lastly, your other posts contradict you own statements. When did you hit a 12.0 with "just Dp's and intakes"? You just explained that you ran a slower 12.17@116, but that was with both primary DPs & SSR midpipes, and believe that was with e30 too.

I think you need to clarify what "more & less" means in your final statement. From the facts you provided, it looks like you're paying almost DOUBLE= $3000(lap3~$1200, DP~$700, SSR~$600, Injen~$500) and running more boost, but getting less performance than Kato=$1750(JB4/WMI~$1100, K&N~$400, VT~$250) and many other JB4 users.

Nothing personal and glad you're happy with your setup, but please stop trying to convince others the lap3 does "more with less" when all the facts show otherwise.

 

[P4RTYH4RTY]

Its when the power comes on that's important, not just the numbers. Spooling up quicker most certainly has helped me gap others. I've posted a run recently on fbook of me vs a OEm DP 2019 GT RWD. He was on map 1, I was on mode 1. I put a few cars on him. He blames the dp's but i say weight wise, we pretty much break even. He's a good dude and we will run again!

'19 GT RWD w/ JB4 + intakes
VS.
'18 GT RWD w/ LAP3 + intakes

Results: dead even from 40-120

It's clear that any additional mods you have over mine are the reason you pulled on me. You and I both know that if you pulled on me, then you would pull on Robb; that throws out the LAP3 advantage you're trying to imply.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Bro, can you please stop taking passive aggressive jabs at anyone running a JB4? Its uncalled for and is getting annoying.

You also keep quoting other members unverified comments as facts even though most of them are incorrect, or have already been disproven. The JB4 on its highest setting, Map8 doesnt even hit 19psi.(Log attached at bottom for proof). While almost all dyno's directly from lap3 show 1.32-1.5bar(19-22psi!)

Lastly, your other posts contradict you own statements. When did you hit a 12.0 with "just Dp's and intakes"? You just explained that you ran a slower 12.17@116, but that was with both primary DPs & SSR midpipes, and believe that was with e30 too.

I think you need to clarify what "more & less" means in your final statement. From the facts you provided, it looks like you're paying almost DOUBLE= $3000(lap3~$1200, DP~$700, SSR~$600, Injen~$500) and running more boost, but getting less performance than Kato=$1750(JB4/WMI~$1100, K&N~$400, VT~$250) and many other JB4 users.

Nothing personal and glad you're happy with your setup, but please stop trying to convince others the lap3 does "more with less" when all the facts show otherwise.

Just an FYI your boost is off. You read the PSI from the ECU he actually reads his from Vacuum Boost (very accurate) both the lap 3 and jb4 aren't accurate on boost psi from the ecu.

 

[Michael Locke]

'19 GT RWD w/ JB4 + intakes
VS.
'18 GT RWD w/ LAP3 + intakes

Results: dead even from 40-120

It's clear that any additional mods you have over mine are the reason you pulled on me. You and I both know that if you pulled on me, then you would pull on Robb; that throws out the LAP3 advantage you're trying to imply.

Yes, and after 120, then what,? He pulled you by what? A 1/2 a car maybe more?

If you want to tell a story, tell the whole story man. It's all about transparency and I want to be crystal.

 

[P4RTYH4RTY]

Yes, and after 120, then what,? He pulled you by what? A 1/2 a car maybe more?

If you want to tell a story, tell the whole story man. It's all about transparency and I want to be crystal.

That is 100% correct; from 120-140 he pulled 1/2 car.

You and I never got to those numbers, so it was irrelevant, hence why I left it out.

So would you pull on Robb?

 

[Michael Locke]

Bro, can you please stop taking passive aggressive jabs at anyone running a JB4? Its uncalled for and is getting annoying.

You also keep quoting other members unverified comments as facts even though most of them are incorrect, or have already been disproven. The JB4 on its highest setting, Map8 doesnt even hit 19psi.(Log attached at bottom for proof). While almost all dyno's directly from lap3 show 1.32-1.5bar(19-22psi!)

Lastly, your other posts contradict you own statements. When did you hit a 12.0 with "just Dp's and intakes"? You just explained that you ran a slower 12.17@116, but that was with both primary DPs & SSR midpipes, and believe that was with e30 too.

I think you need to clarify what "more & less" means in your final statement. From the facts you provided, it looks like you're paying almost DOUBLE= $3000(lap3~$1200, DP~$700, SSR~$600, Injen~$500) and running more boost, but getting less performance than Kato=$1750(JB4/WMI~$1100, K&N~$400, VT~$250) and many other JB4 users.

Nothing personal and glad you're happy with your setup, but please stop trying to convince others the lap3 does "more with less" when all the facts show otherwise.

Those sheets are great but I have my own, done here in the states at the same Dyno and posted it the hour it happens each time, just like my track runs and Dragy runs. (Tickets too:-/) if anyone questions my methods, I'm more than willing to offer any evidence to support my claims.

The ProTuner is set up as followed

Mode 0-oem boost max 13.87
Mode 1-1.2 bar (17.4psi max)91 Oct
Mode 2-1.3 bar (18.8psi max) 91+e85/93oct
Mode 3-1.4 bar (20.3psi max)Meth/Racegas

I don't have to disclose my purchase price for the parts I have. I will tell you I was the beta tester for the West coast for the ProTuner and produced the installation guide as well. Get whatever you want from that.

I ran a 12.17@116mph Saturday, Dec 22nd, 2018@Sac Raceway TestT n Tune. I have a witness, one of which is on fbook named Robb Banaga. I have at least 5 slips I can produce from that day. My car number was 33T. I ran a 12.07@114 on Dragy on Nov 11th 2018 and posted it the next day as at the time, I was the fastest in the USA. That is until the next day or so later when Tonka broke it with a 12.05(Motherfucker lol)

So, absorb all this and calm the f*ck down



I had the following modifications that day installed (as of Feb I've only reinstalled the oem midpipes) .

Lap3 ProTuner
Lap3 Catless Dp
Injen Intake
Hks m45il plugs
Ssr Catless midpipes
E30(5gl E/11gl CA 91)

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

The ProTuner is set up as followed

Mode 0-oem boost max 13.87
Mode 1-1.2 bar (17.4psi max)91 Oct
Mode 2-1.3 bar (18.8psi max) 91+e85/93oct
Mode 3-1.4 bar (20.3psi max)Meth/Racegas

We know how thats set up but it changes for mods right? Like if a straight 2.5" turbo back exhaust with no cats or muffler was in play, boost would rocket at least thats how it is with the jb4. Since lap3 doesnt control WGDC i have no idea how they would solve my issues (not saying it wouldnt). I wish i understood a bit more about how its set up and what it hides from the ECU or changes.