Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.

[Kamauxx]

They were regapped... and not 1 but 3 of them cracked.

He said his plugs were "original" gap.

How did you come to the conclusion that he re-gapped them? He specifically asked what would happen if he DIDN'T regap his plugs.

 

[TorkMe]

So, full transparency.

He asked you what would happen if he left his plugs at stock gap (which he incorrectly assumed is 028).

You replied to him "nothing unless you install a piggy back".

He then said he'd already installed a JB4 and cracked his plugs.

You knew before posting your "mic drop" that he was running stock plugs with stock gap. Now it's looking like you're just throwing shit out there to see what sticks.

You are assuming that he didn't gap them to .028, I am assuming that he did.

 

[TorkMe]

Here is another Denso website clip.... high lighted the important part.


Insulator breakage

Appearance The insulator leg section is cracked or broken.
Results Misfiring
Cause Severely abnormal combustion, lack of attention to gap adjustment.

 

[Kamauxx]

You are assuming that he didn't gap them to .028, I am assuming that he did.

So your "mic drop" is an assumption based solely on your interpretation of what he meant when he asked what happens if he sticks with the "original" gap?

For fucks sakes, this has to be a joke.

 

[Helo58]

I went through the numbers with these guys before, lol. The rears saved ~12# per tire/rim combo, fronts ~14# per tire/rim combo. Total savings around 52#.

On the rears the 285/35/18 tires are heavier than stock at the furthest point of rotation, and much of the weight savings in the rims is actually closer to the axis of rotation in the hub.

These guys seem think bolt on 18" rims and pickup 3mph or something but in my testing traps went from around 118mph on the 19" rims/tires to around 119mph on 18" new rims/tires.

Great, thanks for the follow-up.

 

[TorkMe]

So your "mic drop" is an assumption based solely on your interpretation of what he meant when he asked what happens if he sticks with the original gap?

For fucks sakes, this has to be a joke.

I took it for what its worth, internet content.

Yet... we have to prove our car doesn't have springs on it nor does it have a blown engine or bad transmission... yet, you did seem to find that as a joke? I am going to assume that the person post on my Youtube page followed the directions given to him, and gapped the plugs to .028 as per the directions given to him in the JB4. Now, I will assume that he left that gap stock, and that would explain why you have a poor running car, but not damaged spark plugs.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

So your "mic drop" is an assumption based solely on your interpretation of what he meant when he asked what happens if he sticks with the original gap?

For fucks sakes, this has to be a joke.

I think in his response he said he cracked plugs 2 days after installing a jb4. I dont think theres an assumption there? Am i reading it wrong?

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Hamad Alabbasi6 hours ago
And what is if i leave the gap on original .28


Tork Motorsports3 hours ago
Nothing will happen unless you install a piggy back.


Hamad Alabbasi3 hours ago
@Tork Motorsports thanks.. and i have installed jb4 over the factory plugs and after two days i had a misfire and 3 plugs was damage a little bit.. now should I install the hks m40il or m45il?


Tork Motorsports27 minutes ago
If you live in a very hot climate, run the 45's... mild to cooler climate run the 40's. Sorry to hear that you had a damaged plug with the tuning piggy back. Let us know when you want to run a proper ECU tune."

Stock Spark Plugs are gapped from 0.034-0.036 so he would have had to of gapped them already once.

 

[TwinSnails]

You are assuming that he didn't gap them to .028, I am assuming that he did.

Ummmmm, why would we assume anything? Not being difficult but post it all of you are gonna post it.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

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Ummmmm, why would we assume anything? Not being difficult but post it all of you are gonna post it.

I just did. Again .028 ist not the stock gap and they didnt close .04-.06 on their own in two days with a jb4? Or can the piggyback gap your plugs in the coils for you Is that in the V8 Firmware update Terry?

 

[Kamauxx]

I took it for what its worth, internet content.

Yet... we have to prove our car doesn't have springs on it nor does it have a blown engine or bad transmission... yet, you did seem to find that as a joke?

I don't even know what you're talking about. Are you just changing the subject? Look man, real simple--if you want to remain credible in business it's bad practice to accuse a rival of damaging people's property without some semblance of proof.

 

[TorkMe]

I think in his response he said he cracked plugs 2 days after installing a jb4. I dont think theres an assumption there? Am i reading it wrong?

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Hamad Alabbasi6 hours ago
And what is if i leave the gap on original .28


Tork Motorsports3 hours ago
Nothing will happen unless you install a piggy back.


Hamad Alabbasi3 hours ago
@Tork Motorsports thanks.. and i have installed jb4 over the factory plugs and after two days i had a misfire and 3 plugs was damage a little bit.. now should I install the hks m40il or m45il?


Tork Motorsports27 minutes ago
If you live in a very hot climate, run the 45's... mild to cooler climate run the 40's. Sorry to hear that you had a damaged plug with the tuning piggy back. Let us know when you want to run a proper ECU tune."

Stock Spark Plugs are gapped from 0.034-0.036 so he would have had to of gapped them already once.

I took it as he had gapped the plugs to .028, given english appears to be his second language, I didn't think I needed to dig any deeper.

 

[TwinSnails]

@DaBears4Lyfe Kudos for posting it all, because that ONE post was misleading.

@TorkMe, Clarifying.... so with your tune one could run stock plugs at .036 and no issues?

EDIT: Or would .028 with your tune on the stock plugs be safe (still seems wide for a tune, on that heat range pushing 450+ whp).

 

[Kamauxx]

I just did. Again .028 ist not the stock gap and they didnt close .04-.06 on their own in two days with a jb4? Or can the piggyback gap your plugs in the coils for you Is that in the V8 Firmware update Terry?

The problem is he said hes running stock plugs at their original gap. That tells us he hasn't re-gapped his stock plugs, agree?

We know the stock plug and gap isn't 028, but that doesn't mean he does.

Tork knows that if the dude was running the stock plugs at original gap he WASN'T running 028.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

@DaBears4Lyfe Kudos for posting it all, because that ONE post was misleading.

@TorkMe, Clarifying.... so with your tune one could run stock plugs at .036 and no issues?

I dont think anything was misleading. Based on what we KNOW stock gap is and based on what he said his gap was at I think its safe to say somewhere somehow they were gapped.

 

[Kamauxx]

I didn't think I needed to dig any deeper.

You definitely should dig deeper if that's the evidence you're going to use that JB4s are destroying people's turbos and engines, or whatever you claimed earlier.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

The problem is he said hes running stock plugs at their original gap. That tells us he hasn't re-gapped his stock plugs, agree?

We know the stock plug and gap isn't 028, but that doesn't mean he does.

Tork knows that if the dude was running the stock plugs at original gap he WASN'T running 028.

I think maybe you might be assuming now? Just saying. He said hes plugs are at 028 and i doubt he jsut pulled a random number out the sky. I would ASSUME like we all are now that some where they were gapped down from OEM spec.

 

[TwinSnails]

I dont think anything was misleading. Based on what we KNOW stock gap is and based on what he said his gap was at I think its safe to say somewhere somehow they were gapped.

.028 Gap with tune on the stock heat range - wouldn’t be my comfortable range. Every 100hp should be one step cooler. If I load Map 3... I’m not liking my Odds with a JB4 or Tork’s at a .028 on stock plugs.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

.028 Gap with tune on the stock heat range - wouldn’t be my comfortable range. Every 100hp should be one step cooler. If I load Map 3... I’m not liking my Odds with a JB4 or Tork’s at a .028 on stock plugs.

Yes I agree .028 should not be fine for most all piggybacks. I think some request .022

 

[Kamauxx]

I think maybe you might be assuming now? Just saying. He said hes plugs are at 028 and i doubt he jsut pulled a random number out the sky. I would ASSUME like we all are now that some where they were gapped down from OEM spec.

Maybe the guy needs to be invited onto the forum so he can clarify his question.

Regardless, no vendor should accuse another vendor of his products destroying people's cars based on such shitty evidence. That question/comment is no smoking gun.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Maybe the guy needs to be invited onto the forum so he can clarify his question.

Regardless, no vendor should accuse another vendor of his products destroying people's cars based on such shitty evidence. That question/comment is no smoking gun.

Ill invite Hamad Alabbasi . JK I have no idea how to contact him lol.