WMI vs CPI?

[GT2Goods]

That was my concoction for my 11.16 run

Do you usually run the car on 100 meth or a blend? Would 70/30 blend provide a lot more room for power than 50/50? I'm assuming you have to update settings in the JB4 every time you change the blend and also assuming 100% meth is more dangerous for fumes and combustion?

 

[AWDGT2]

Did another battery reset

I looked at this log and it looks great. At this point, I would take Meth additive and bump it from 50 to 60 or even 70. Timing is perfect, trims are dropping nice. The only thing I question is why it only dropped 2 degrees in IAT temp, It should of dropped more, especially if meth was flowing as it should.

 

[Jaybone]

I looked at this log and it looks great. At this point, I would take Meth additive and bump it from 50 to 60 or even 70. Timing is perfect, trims are dropping nice. The only thing I question is why it only dropped 2 degrees in IAT temp, It should of dropped more, especially if meth was flowing as it should.

I can’t figure out why I have to keep resetting my ecu though. There is someone else in here having the same issue. I sent an email to Terry and posted on a couple forums in different areas as I don’t know what he sees. What do you think is causing my timing issues?

 

[Jaybone]

I can’t figure out why I have to keep resetting my ecu though. There is someone else in here having the same issue. I sent an email to Terry and posted on a couple forums in different areas as I don’t know what he sees. What do you think is causing my timing issues?

 

[AWDGT2]

OK, just a theory..... resetting ECU will clean up a log.... temporarily.. Then, adaptives get rebuilt on data it's collecting. That other log timing looks bad. Just shooting from the hip..
1. I think gap is off or plugs are hurt.
2. Meth is not spraying properly.
For number 2, do a good purge. Then, hook everything back up and do another purge to with the nozzle holder out. In other words it's not a purge but you are checking the health of the actual nozzle spray.
I inspect my nozzle spray often. I've noticed a bit of rust and or corrosion from running high meth %. Attached is what my #12 nozzle looked like after a few months. What does yours look like?

 

[Jaybone]

Plugs and gaps are good. WMI was just installed last night brand new from BMS. I will check my logs every couple days. I will do another log tonight as temps are warmer here. I did notice iat temps continued to drop well after I let off the gas.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Not been following the thread details closely but if you want to visually test the meth injection nozzle just place it in to a clear plastic bottle, hit purge a couple times, record a video of the spray pattern, and post that here for review.

 

[Jaybone]

Here is a log temps are lows 80s out. What do you think?

 

[Jaybone]

Not been following the thread details closely but if you want to visually test the meth injection nozzle just place it in to a clear plastic bottle, hit purge a couple times, record a video of the spray pattern, and post that here for review.

Hi Terry I sent you an email directly I’m having issues with my timing corrections and can’t figure out why I’am having issues I reset the ecu via battery disconnect and cleans up for a while and then goes back. Looking for your expertise for help. I posted in a couple areas on N54 and spoke to Ando as I’m not sure what you see but gladly appreciate your help.

 

[StingertimeNC]

Make sure there's no leak in the meth system too. I just discovered a leak on the last compression fitting, right were it goes into the adapter, just before the Nozzle. I'm guessing I was maybe getting half of the spray I was supposed to, maybe even less. I only noticed it when I had the nozzle out to purge it. It was leaking all over my hand. Maybe get a friend to look at the tank area when you purge, then look at the fittings on both sides of the solenoid valve, etc. lots of places it could be leaking.

 

[Corleone1]

Any News here?

How high in E blend have you reach so far?

What is the limit to run 100%, E85? Low pressure pump capacity?

 

[AWDGT2]

Any News here?

How high in E blend have you reach so far?

What is the limit to run 100%, E85? Low pressure pump capacity?

It's not a limitation of either pump right now. The limitation is the fuel mapping. While idle or light cruising you'll throw a lean code. It's only when the nozzle kicks on that the car is very happy. Tuning companies like Sxth and Lap have come up with tunes specifically for CPI and higher E contents. Most of us discovered that E40-E50 is best, no gains past that except a heavier wallet.

 

[winjury]

Im just going to throw this out there because Methanol is incredibly toxic to humans and by design it has to be vented in your car (trunk) and its combustable (highly flamable). I wish more people would mention this to anyone that is thinking about putting this in their daily driver- its flat out stupid and should not be done to protect your own health and anyone else in the vehicle.

 

[AWDGT2]

That's why I mounted mine behind the front clip.

 

[winjury]

That's why I mounted mine behind the front clip.

And when you are moving forward where do you think those fumes are going?

 

[AWDGT2]

And when you are moving forward where do you think those fumes are going?

Are you serious about your last comment? Really? If you're that paranoid you should wear PPE every time you drive then. Washer fluid has 33% Methanol in it. Cars emit noxious Carbon Monoxide and there are millions of them on road.

 

[Thomby]

And when you are moving forward where do you think those fumes are going?

Nowhere in any quantity, assuming your system isn't blasting a firehose of it. Yes methanol is toxic if you drink it, or sit around in a room full of vapor, but the idea that some negligible amount outside the car or 15 feet away is getting to you in any measurable quantity is a bit much.

Which is why, despite tens of thousands of cars running around with methanol injection installed by all kinds of skill levels, you don't see an epidemic of people poisoning themselves. Take care with your install and treat it like any number of other potentially hazardous chemicals you navigate, and there's no reason it should be any riskier than gasoline, brake fluid, antifreeze, bleach, or drain cleaner.

 

[winjury]

Nowhere in any quantity, assuming your system isn't blasting a firehose of it. Yes methanol is toxic if you drink it, or sit around in a room full of vapor, but the idea that some negligible amount outside the car or 15 feet away is getting to you in any measurable quantity is a bit much.

Which is why, despite tens of thousands of cars running around with methanol injection installed by all kinds of skill levels, you don't see an epidemic of people poisoning themselves. Take care with your install and treat it like any number of other potentially hazardous chemicals you navigate, and there's no reason it should be any riskier than gasoline, brake fluid, antifreeze, bleach, or drain cleaner.

Just here to make people think and do their own research so they are aware about the risk for the engine, about the combustibility and your own health. I’m sure years down the road we will see what happens because those ignored this simple warning. It’s certainly not worth the risk for a little more power.

 

[Thomby]

I’m sure years down the road we will see what happens because those ignored this simple warning. It’s certainly not worth the risk for a little more power.

Methanol toxicity is an acute phenomenon, ie the effects occur right away, not a long-term one. And methanol injection has been around for decades, yet we see no scourge of poisonings.

As @AWDGT2 pointed out, your washer fluid is 1/3 methanol, so if a bumper tank leak is dangerous, then blasting jets of the stuff directly against the windshield would be doomsday.

A quick search yields studies using heating elements to actively vaporize methanol in enclosed spaces, to replicate industrial-scale exposure, while testing blood for buildup. I haven't attempted calculations of how much you'd have to dump into your trunk to match this, but we're not talking trace amounts.

So again, it's something to be careful with, but given the lack of poisoning incidents (and lawsuits against kit makers), it seems people are handling it ok.

 

[bfglitch]

Methanol toxicity is an acute phenomenon, ie the effects occur right away, not a long-term one. And methanol injection has been around for decades, yet we see no scourge of poisonings.

As @AWDGT2 pointed out, your washer fluid is 1/3 methanol, so if a bumper tank leak is dangerous, then blasting jets of the stuff directly against the windshield would be doomsday.

A quick search yields studies using heating elements to actively vaporize methanol in enclosed spaces, to replicate industrial-scale exposure, while testing blood for buildup. I haven't attempted calculations of how much you'd have to dump into your trunk to match this, but we're not talking trace amounts.

So again, it's something to be careful with, but given the lack of poisoning incidents (and lawsuits against kit makers), it seems people are handling it ok.