Whiteline sway bars. clamp thing

[D.J.]

These days, some cars have torque-vectoring via computer control, which helps with this. Torque vectoring can be done by torque and/or by brake. The former typically involves sending more torque to the outside rear wheel - not more torque to the front.

Our stingers just apply brakes, to simulate torque vectoring

 

[seeyainakia]

OP here. Just providing some generic feedback. I never installed the clamps in the back. I'll get there "one of these days"
One of the stupid clamps in the front got stripped (yes, I know, my fault) clamps really are cheesy. Installments like this should have clearly defined architecture- NOT left up to the user to guess where shit should be. That being said...for the price paid these bars were totally worth it
Regardless, back was much harder than front because of..stuff. After all the power upgrades the stock bars were not cutting it. I Had really bad rear end sway on hard acceleration. It's gone now, and cornering is much better, very solid

 

[sil25rs]

OP here. Just providing some generic feedback. I never installed the clamps in the back. I'll get there "one of these days"
One of the stupid clamps in the front got stripped (yes, I know, my fault) clamps really are cheesy. Installments like this should have clearly defined architecture- NOT left up to the user to guess where shit should be. That being said...for the price paid these bars were totally worth it
Regardless, back was much harder than front because of..stuff. After all the power upgrades the stock bars were not cutting it. I Had really bad rear end sway on hard acceleration. It's gone now, and cornering is much better, very solid

Agreed. I just installed mine this past weekend and turn-ins and power delivery to the ground feel more balanced.

I installed the lateral locks on the outsides of the sway mounts on the rear, makes it easier to get to for servicing. For the fronts, I installed the locks on the insides of the sway mounts.

Downside now is that im losing gas mileage as im on gas on both straights and corners. So fun

 

[Volfy]

I can see why having to install the separate end-stop clamp might be an annoyance. Personally, I prefer that flexibility, which has now become really valuable, as I'm about to replace the clamps with Energy Suspension's bushing/mount. The issue with the Whiteline bars is that they do not come with grease nipples. In fact, they reused the OEM front mount bracket. I did drill&tap the brackets to install grease nipples (see my earlier posts in this thread), and the nipples worked quite well. The problem is that the bushing themselves do not have provisions to allow grease flow over the entire bearing surfaces, so it's next to impossible for the grease to flow into that tight gap between the bushing and the bar.

Energy Suspension's bushings have shallow grooves cut into the bushings to allow for grease flow and retention. These should work much better.

Now... these brackets are definitely not the same width as the stock mount brackets, so if the anti-roll bars have end stops cast into them, I may not be able to switch to the Energy brackets. The separate end-stops solve this problem very nicely.

I just love modifying the mods and buying aftermarket parts to upgrade the aftermarket parts.

 

[bfglitch]

Energy Suspension's bushings have shallow grooves cut into the bushings to allow for grease flow and retention

It's interesting you mentioned that. I kind of figured most if not all the bushings that came with the aftermarket bars had some form of grove in them to allow for grease retention. The bushings that came with my ARK sway bars had groves in them to allow for grease retention. Although instead of going across the bushing like the Energy ones you attached the pic of, I believe there were two groves that went around the inside of the bushing. Sadly at the time I didn't think of adding the grease fittings prior to installation. But I would imagine at some point if/when I need to regrease I'll most likely add a fitting for each channel of the bushing.

 

[Volfy]

It's interesting you mentioned that. I kind of figured most if not all the bushings that came with the aftermarket bars had some form of grove in them to allow for grease retention. The bushings that came with my ARK sway bars had groves in them to allow for grease retention. Although instead of going across the bushing like the Energy ones you attached the pic of, I believe there were two groves that went around the inside of the bushing. Sadly at the time I didn't think of adding the grease fittings prior to installation. But I would imagine at some point if/when I need to regrease I'll most likely add a fitting for each channel of the bushing.

The Energy bushings are done the best from what I can find.

Dunno why this continues to be a problem to this day with aftermarket anti-roll bars. I had to deal with dry creaky polyurethane bushings going back to the late '80s. The solution seems so simple you'd think they would have it figured out long time ago.

 

[ht_addict]

I can see why having to install the separate end-stop clamp might be an annoyance. Personally, I prefer that flexibility, which has now become really valuable, as I'm about to replace the clamps with Energy Suspension's bushing/mount. The issue with the Whiteline bars is that they do not come with grease nipples. In fact, they reused the OEM front mount bracket. I did drill&tap the brackets to install grease nipples (see my earlier posts in this thread), and the nipples worked quite well. The problem is that the bushing themselves do not have provisions to allow grease flow over the entire bearing surfaces, so it's next to impossible for the grease to flow into that tight gap between the bushing and the bar.

Energy Suspension's bushings have shallow grooves cut into the bushings to allow for grease flow and retention. These should work much better.

Now... these brackets are definitely not the same width as the stock mount brackets, so if the anti-roll bars have end stops cast into them, I may not be able to switch to the Energy brackets. The separate end-stops solve this problem very nicely.

I just love modifying the mods and buying aftermarket parts to upgrade the aftermarket parts.
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Are you sure that's the right part? That bushing is for 24mm. Isn't the front sway bar 25mm?

I picked up part 9.5161 which is 25mm. The part number on the bushing is the same as what came with my Eibach sway bar.

 

[Volfy]

Are you sure that's the right part? That bushing is for 24mm. Isn't the front sway bar 25mm?

I picked up part 9.5161 which is 25mm. The part number on the bushing is the same as what came with my Eibach sway bar.

Whiteline front is 24mm.