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Almost asks the question of why not join in on theft to make up for losses due to theft, since it seems unlikely anyone will ever be caught, as long as the laws favor criminals. Maybe I'll end up stealing from a criminal, HA! The laws are archaic, from a time when honor still existed. Honor was finally squashed out of existence in the middle of 2008. We lawful citizens are stuck between being victims of criminals who will never be made accountable, and police and DAs who can't stop crime, but will arrest and prosecute a lawful citizen for defending themselves or their hard earned property. Laws MUST change to make it legal to defend property with deadly force. That is the only way to reduce crime, when the criminals fear for their own safety.
Drugs and poverty are the largest contributors to the behavior, only a small percent do it 'for fun' (kleptos).

When you look at crime maps, most of it is focused in areas where there's the greatest poverty/lowest income or established 'hot spots' (the strip, here in Vegas, for example) and done by people in poverty/low income. White collar criminals with six or seven figures in their bank accounts aren't the ones smashing windows. I suspect our widening wealth gap between those with the least and most is an area that, if improved upon, would take a significant bite out of the amount of (in particular poverty motivated) theft.

All that said, when taken as a percent of the population and when looking at demographics, the crime rate isn't anything resembling the third world. We're nowhere near a breaking point. Certainly on a long enough timeline we can get there, but I suspect we'll have bigger political, social, and economic issues to address before white people in suburbia have to worry that their neighborhoods resemble an inner city. And lets face it, most reading these words aren't poor living in a rundown studio apartment wondering where their next meal or fix is coming from. Any fears and concerns we have are self imposed/induced. When getting a broken window is the worse crime we experience, it's certainly the definition of first world issue.

As far as deadly force - the punishment has to fit the crime, or else it becomes a crime itself. Breaking a window isn't a death sentence. This isn't North Korea.
 
Ya know, if someone desperately needed a few bucks (not for drugs) and asked me, and I knew it was that or they would attack my car, I've give them some money.
Do you want to shoot them or give them money? The solutions you offer are on the furthest possible ends of the spectrum.
 
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Get a good dash cam with the parking sensor that will notify you.
Sounds expensive.
dashcam with cellular connections might be - overkill. (especially when the thief steels the dashcam.
(are there any good dashcams that notify you in parking mode?)
 
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Drugs and poverty are the largest contributors to the behavior, only a small percent do it 'for fun' (kleptos).

When you look at crime maps, most of it is focused in areas where there's the greatest poverty/lowest income or established 'hot spots' (the strip, here in Vegas, for example) and done by people in poverty/low income. White collar criminals with six or seven figures in their bank accounts aren't the ones smashing windows. I suspect our widening wealth gap between those with the least and most is an area that, if improved upon, would take a significant bite out of the amount of (in particular poverty motivated) theft.

All that said, when taken as a percent of the population and when looking at demographics, the crime rate isn't anything resembling the third world. We're nowhere near a breaking point. Certainly on a long enough timeline we can get there, but I suspect we'll have bigger political, social, and economic issues to address before white people in suburbia have to worry that their neighborhoods resemble an inner city. And lets face it, most reading these words aren't poor living in a rundown studio apartment wondering where their next meal or fix is coming from. Any fears and concerns we have are self imposed/induced. When getting a broken window is the worse crime we experience, it's certainly the definition of first world issue.

As far as deadly force - the punishment has to fit the crime, or else it becomes a crime itself. Breaking a window isn't a death sentence. This isn't North Korea.
So are you suggesting that I allow my car to be damaged so the addicted and poor can get something they need?

I don't dispute that white collar crime is far more damaging than crimes by low-lifes, but it is quite clear you are for wealth distribution.

I now realize I brought something into this discussion and forum that I shouldn't have, and I apologize for that. I will refrain from it going forward. Good day and God bless.
 
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Do you want to shoot them or give them money? The solutions you offer are on the furthest possible ends of the spectrum.
I will not respond further in this discussion, that admittedly I started. Hopefully, I can end it, because I now see that it does not belong here.
 
When getting a broken window is the worse crime we experience, it's certainly the definition of first world issue.
I'm a bit late on this one, but getting anything broken into is a pretty "bad" thing. I understand that it's nothing like death, but it's not just a brush off. As a matter of fact, in many cases, it's more of a mental thing. The mental side of not feeling safe and secure, no matter the side of the street or side of the world, is a big deal. In any event, I just bought a scooter and put a sign on it that says "don't steal me...the cops are watching!" I'll let you know if I still have my scooter by the end of the day. :coffee:
 
It is quite clear you are for wealth distribution.
I am, but only based on observation and being an active participant in society. The divides in this country are vast, and they can all be linked to acquisition and retention of wealth, and manipulation of the poor/uneducated by the wealthy. I'll proudly wear the socialist badge if it means I'm on the other end of the discourse.
 
I'm a bit late on this one, but getting anything broken into is a pretty "bad" thing. I understand that it's nothing like death, but it's not just a brush off. As a matter of fact, in many cases, it's more of a mental thing. The mental side of not feeling safe and secure, no matter the side of the street or side of the world, is a big deal. In any event, I just bought a scooter and put a sign on it that says "don't steal me...the cops are watching!" I'll let you know if I still have my scooter by the end of the day. :coffee:
It's still about orders of magnitude. Having something broken or stolen sucks, but in a incomparable way to being raped or beaten or murdered. On a scale of 1-10, they're on opposite ends. So I don't agree that a sleepless night over a broken car window is the same as the years of trauma someone experiences from a more sinister crime.
 
It's still about orders of magnitude. Having something broken or stolen sucks, but in a incomparable way to being raped or beaten or murdered. On a scale of 1-10, they're on opposite ends. So I don't agree that a sleepless night over a broken car window is the same as the years of trauma someone experiences from a more sinister crime.
Yes, you are spot on and I can't argue with the magnitude. BUT...I do disagree with the first world thing. I think it's all world stuff. All of the above happen all over the world (the 1-10 stuff) and they can cause sleepless nights for all no matter the 1-10. And it's all relative in my opinion. Meaning, and very unfortunately, someone may get raped and think it's "normal"...but that same person has their "things" stolen and they explode. It's really a perspective type thing and my perspective, if you try to beat me up or rape me I'll karate chop you the same way as if you were to try to break into my car. :cautious:
 
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It's still about orders of magnitude. Having something broken or stolen sucks, but in a incomparable way to being raped or beaten or murdered. On a scale of 1-10, they're on opposite ends. So I don't agree that a sleepless night over a broken car window is the same as the years of trauma someone experiences from a more sinister crime.
*SIGH* I hoped this was over, but I am forced to speak up again. Stoopid, the order of magnitude, "sleepless nights" or trauma you cite are perhaps clearly defined in your mind, but they do not apply to any other person. You cannot know their life history, unless it is told to you, and even then, you cannot know their tolerance to adversity. To expect a person to feel one tragedy is far worse than another is quite subjective, based on your opinions being applied to another person with a very different life. You seem to be the type to expect others to feel and react the same way you do. Other people are different, lived different lives with different challenges. They therefore feel different and react differently. Their ways are no less or more valid than your own. Do not apply your standards on others for you likely do not know their journey.
 
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