What's your favorite Mando setting! Post it!

[Waynerm002]

Lol, thanks! However, you turned us on to this, without you starting the thread on this we would never have known about it. Plus these numbers are modifications of your Advanced settings. You deserve some credit as well for getting us the info on this upgrade. I’m just tweaking to get to that sporty sedan feeling the G70 has, which reminds me of the M-Sport Package equipped 3 and 5 series from the late 2000s. I love how you can have a few custom tunes in one system. I’m shooting for comfort and sporty handling, I’m certain someone else will come up with some track tunes.

 

[Waynerm002]

Got my 2nd service done today and decided to spend some time tweaking the ride. Decided to get one of my young car bud to do this with me. He wanted to try it out at 100%, so we set everything to 100% in the Basic section. It was good on smooth roads and you felt everything. We went down to 70 all around and it was good as well, more manageable, of course. He wanted to look for some bad roads to test it on but we couldn't so we went out on the highway and even though there was construction going on, nada. We got off one of the exit and bam, right into some crappy stuff, I changed it to 50/40 on the Ride portion and 60/50 on the Handling portion. This is probably as far as I would want to go for a Custom Sport setting, if you throw the Stinger's Sport Mode in the mix, it gets tighter and harder. Best for smooth roads, not so much for poor surfaces.

Ended up setting it at 45/35 on the Ride and 55/45 on the Handling to deal with some of the crappy roads. It was actually good at all speeds up to 80, all the modes we got to around 80 for brief stints. For those that don't want a bit harder feel and have good roads, you might like going up to 70%. I decided to make the front setting higher as I realized the rear had a hard hit when set to the same setting as the front, while the front felt better. The car now feels better balanced through dips and over imperfections. I'll probably work on a speed variable setting to share in the future.

 

[itguy61]

Wayne, are you experimenting around with all these settings with the purpose of being able to use them on both comfort and sport mode on the car? Or do you have one or the other in mind when you test?

 

[Waynerm002]

I typically drive the car in Comfort mode, the main purpose is to find a smooth setting that matched the G70's Comfort mode, which is a level (most likely more than a level) above the Stinger's Sport mode, but comfortable for everyday use. My Custom setting with the car's Sport suspension setting was a setting I would work out later. I came across that Advanced Custom+Sport by accident, as that wasn't what I was working on. Today, I decided to get another driver's input on what I think younger folks might like so I could share, then I can do my own tweak for those seeking a more refined, taut GT feel. Based on what I like, surely, but to give a starting point or something to keep for others.

Being a passenger today, also let me feel what others in the car experience. Between the 2 of us we found adding the car's Sport mode gets a nicer ride, but it could also benefit from something tuned specifically for a higher level Sport mode. He took us on some windy roads, smooth roads and at 70% all around the cornering was flatter, "lift off" over hill crests was negligible, the car felt "glued" to the road. It's certainly usable at that level, provided the roads are smooth. Having the custom mode means you can tune for different uses, so I figure why not find some other setting I could use on a day I feel like corner carving. Of course, I'll have to drive those roads myself to see if I want to adjust it more for my liking.

With your sway bar, smooth curvy roads and the 70% setting, you might find that to your liking as well. Let me know what you think of it.

 

[Tonkabob]

I assume ride = depening and handling = rebound?
Anyone done drag suspension setting yet?

 

[Rango]

I assume ride = depening and handling = rebound?
Anyone done drag suspension setting yet?

Correct on the ride and handling question. Not dragging my car until 50,000 miles. By then, with all mods installed, I hope to beat the Back to the Future Delorean.

 

[Rango]

Just installed my Mando today. WOW! What a difference in suspension! I have the Eibach Pro kit installed on my Stinger (springs and sways - sways set to soft). Anyone with this set up or close, and have some favorite mando settings, please post here. Would love to see them!

First run today ... I set every setting under the basic settings to 100% to make sure the Mando was functioning ... boy was it functioning!

On a different note ... when I installed my springs, I neglected to trim the bump stops so I am bottoming out in the front bad over minor potholes and such. The rear suspension is fine. First setting I tried was the advanced settings in the Mando app for the front compression, up from 50 to 65 to alleviate crashing the bump stocks. (didn't mess with the rebound yet)... made it stiffer at low to medium speed and tailed it off to 100 mph. At this setting, Mando helped quite a bit on my bump stop problem. Later when my money tree blooms I'm going back to have my bump stops trimmed.

What I really like about the Mando module it that you can seperate your gear ratios through the OEM drive select knob,(mainly comfort and sport ... a big difference), while choosing a seperate suspension setup with the Mando. So many options!

Will post my favorite settings for y'all to test on this thread when time is no object.

Again, please post your suspension setup before posting your Mando settings. It makes a HUGE difference.

Peace! Out!

 

[Waynerm002]

My car is AWD with stock setup, no sway bar added. I’ve posted a few settings I’ve tried, that can be a starting point to work with. With your spring setup and needing a higher ride setting up front, you might want to dial it back on the handling to make the ride better.

 

[Rango]

My car is AWD with stock setup, no sway bar added. I’ve posted a few settings I’ve tried, that can be a starting point to work with. With your spring setup and needing a higher ride setting up front, you might want to dial it back on the handling to make the ride better.

Thanks @Waynerm002. Saw your setting. Will save your settings under Bruce Wayne. You are the go to man for the Mando settings!

 

[redtrack]

This past week I tried various settings. In my customs I have "itguymod" and "Wayner mod", which I change a bit from their settings.
But since is difficult to decide on changes of small %, I have used the custom 4, in basic, and test different front and rears, until Im close to what I like, and then move to advance and add the variable of speed.
While driving I put my phone on the phone cup holder, and open the app in my custom 4. while driving on different surfaces and speed make changes on the fly.
It's a 30 minutes ride to work so have time to test some changes.
So far Im in the 25-32 front, and 30-35 rear. I even tried in the 50+ range but it's a hard ride for those small profile tires.
Thanks to everyone sharing their settings and expirience...Its a long journey!

 

[Waynerm002]

Unless you are on a long smooth highway or local streets, 50% and above will make the ride jarring on bumps and potholes. That is one of the reasons I set it at that level for higher speeds on mine.

 

[Cyrus Duong]

I think I've got something settled for cruising... Not for the curvy or handling type of roads, but I've found these settings to be pretty good while the car is in comfort. This softens the car over some pretty sizeable bumps/road unevenness without becoming too vague/boaty/floaty.
Does fantastic between 0-100KMH. I've tried a little softer at highway speeds (125+KMH) but I think it loses quite a bit of response/turn-in if you go softer (at this point we're probably just limited by the soft spring/rate). Obviously little hard to tune 150+ KMH since illegal, so I just kinda extrapolated the curve.

Ride
KPH - Front - Rear
0 - 45 - 56
50 - 40 - 50
75 - 38 - 48
100 - 39 - 48
125 - 40 - 50
150 - 42 - 53
175 - 45 - 55
200 - 50 - 58

Handling
KPH - Front - Rear
0 - 40 - 40
50 - 42 - 42
100 - 48 - 48
150 - 53 - 53
200 - 55 - 55

For my daily commute, I think it cleans up a lot of the unimportant feedback on highways/commuter roads and keeps the car composed. I've found going below 40% sometimes can bottom out(?). Similarly, if you go too hard like 70%+. There can be some odd suspension noises doing this I've found in my car.

I'm working on sport mode/a sport setting in the app but it's just a lot harder without somewhere decent to test it around here. Closest 'spirited' driving roads are at least 2 hours away. Open to feedback if someone wants to try these settings.

 

[Waynerm002]

Ok Cyrus, gave your setting a try on my commute this morning. For me, it’s a bit like a Sport+ setting. If you’re driving on smooth roads, it is fine but there are some improvements I would make to it so the car will feel better on poor surfaces. As is, it rattles the car way more than I would like and that just makes it annoying to drive on any bad roads. Once I got into DC, I was like, nope, nope, gotta change this!

I’m not sure how you come up with the idea that anything lower than 40% makes the suspension bottom out. I feel to run the Stinger with really high settings (60%+), the car/chassis will require some stiffening, as it introduces unwanted vibrations into the cabin. If you have a lot of great roads in your area, this works well, as a Sport+ setting, I think. Maybe my age is taking me away from wanting a really stiff ride on my cars. What this setting reminded of is, our 2016 Volvo S69 R-Design’s suspension setup. It was unnecessarily hard for anything but smooth roads, any road imperfections was felt, harshly. Lowering the tire pressure helped some. I’ll say though that with the 33 degree temps this morning, the tire pressure was 35F/33R.

Thanks for sharing your settings. I’ll use it as an adjustment for a Sport+ setting and soften it a bit to cope with my crappy roads. Just wish they would make the App show up in CarPlay so I could do it from the screen, instead of the phone.

 

[Cyrus Duong]

I suppose part of it is because I am probably a little on the younger side haha. Good to hear feedback though. I've softened the percent values a little more but I don't think I can go much more, the car starts to feel too boaty/floaty otherwise.

(Too much of this and I get motion sickness, of which my roommate's last car, a 2000s Camry, was the worst offender. I had to explain to my roommate it wasn't his driving but his car, he's got a Model 3 now and I have no motion sickness issues sitting passenger in that car. I also don't do well on smaller boats... if that says anything...)

As for the bottoming out, not sure if that's what's happening, but it certainly makes some not so good creaks/pops/loud noises from the suspension when I go some cracked/chipped pavement. Wonder if a sorta specific/my car kinda thing or if I need to do it and break in the joints a bit?

That said, I think it's a good testament to how this module can really allow custom/individual preferences tuned for the Stinger. If the 3 built-in modes don't do it for you, this module certainly will. Thanks for the feedback and your settings also, little soft for me, but everyone got their preferences.

 

[Waynerm002]

Yeah, I agree we all got different preferences on how we want the ride to feel. I have one setting I like so far but it's not perfect across all speeds so that is still in the works. Sorry to hear about the motion sickness, that's a real drag. Didn't think that was a thing that bothered me, until I went on a boat ride and it had me hugging a post with my eyes closed to stay upright. No more boat parties for me> Boat cruise, forget it, never happening.

 

[UltraCow]

Hello!

Been lurking for a bit here and brought a Stinger home about two weeks ago, partly due to the info and feedback that I've read in this thread and the original ECS10 one.
I came from a tuned and lightly modded 2016 IS350 with AVS (the Lexus version of our ECS). The suspension was one of the biggest thing on that car that I loved and knew the Stinger, at least stock, was not even in the same handling class with. That said, my lease was almost up and the time seemed right for something different, so I decided to do some additional follow-up test-drives.

The IS with AVS is extremely balanced, somewhat akin to the older generations of BMW 3-series; most of what it accomplishes is through extremely polished rebound and damping profiles as it is by nature rather softly sprung. At the same time, I could tell after test-driving a couple Stingers that what I was feeling was primarily due to the suspension curves. The Stinger was purchased knowing that this module existed and allowed for the control it does. I would have likely picked a different car without the ECS10 being available.

Back to the present and I received (thanks to the forum store) and installed my module yesterday afternoon at lunch - what a tremendous difference. The stock Sport and Comfort settings in the app were already a very noticeable improvement, quite obvious not even a half block down the street.
For the advanced settings, I decided to start with Wayne's most current settings, extrapolated out to the 0KPH and 255KPH graph bounds that the app supports. For note, my car is a stock RWD GT1 (for now, except for the module ).
First impressions were something along the lines of "Wow". This is closer to what Kia should have released this car tuned to. I can't overstate how much this module is capable of improving and cleaning up the stock ECS calibration. I will definitely be doing some tweaking of my own with it as well, given time.

Thanks a bunch to Wayne and everyone else for putting the time and effort into refining their own profiles and sharing with everyone here, and for xot1 for bringing this mod to everyone's attention.

 

[Rango]

Welcome @UltraCow! You made a great choice purchasing a Stinger. Concerning this module ... I installed it a couple of weeks ago and played with the settings a bit. Haven't really used it that much ... but it is installed!!! When Xmas is over, I will be diving deeper into the settings, especially the advanced settings, and will post my preferences here. This mod for suspension is PRIMO!!! So much to do ... so little time! Enjoy your ride! Congrats!

 

[MerlintheMad]

That was a very interesting intro, @UltraCow. Welcome to the forum.

 

[Waynerm002]

Welcome and congrats on the new ride and on getting the Mando unit. With the temps dropping, I'll be switching over to winter tires and will have to work on a tune for them as well. Looking forward to trying out your tune once you get one uploaded here.

 

[itguy61]

I sure like your setting you dubbed M-sport like. Between that and the built in Comfort and Sport settings it is a big improvement. I use your setting when I want a very controlled sporty drive. Not harsh but very controlled and firm. I have tried experimenting around but I can't figure out exactly how each setting affects the other and how to set front vs. rear. Hopefully there will be some kind of documentation at some point in the future.

I do believe the ride and handling settings are more complex than just compression vs rebound damping.