What Is A Luxury Car? Can A Kia Compete? (Alex on Autos)

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Full road test to come in about a week.


Another first look from TFL.



Too bad the new K900 doesn't have more appealing sheetmetal (has a pretty nice interior, tho).

Would make a great alternative to the 5er or E Class (actually, probably would opt for the K900 over the E Class as find its sheetmetal to be quite dull as well).

Even more so than on the Stinger, the Kia badges just look out of place and mar the luxury aesthetics.
 
I’m surprised they didn’t use the “E” badge on this car in Korea. I like the look of it. I think it will be better in person. I’ll be checking it out when it comes to my local dealer.
 
I think the Stinger will be the first and last time you see that badge given the recent news they do not plan to pursue a "premium" sub-brand as Hyundai have done..
 
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They don't need to do a sub brand in my opinion. They just need to keep improving their vehicles, make that logo stand for something new, different and exciting. Taking them far away KIA's of the past, getting the paint issue solved, improving the sound isolation and making all their with a sporty, luxury feel. Then, they can add the K.I.A. to the top of the logo and Engineered for Excellence at the bottom. BMW doesn't use a "B" in the middle of their logo, nor does MB or Audi. The "E" can be KIA's new logo. As they improve their vehicles even further, they can also improve the badge. In the future when people see the badge, they will know it's a KIA, much in the same way you know and Audi, BMW, etc., when you see the badge.

Maybe someone in corporate from the old days wants that logo to stay the same. I read that KIA stands for Rising Out of Asia. I would say that job has been accomplished as they are sold in a lot of places around the globe. Mission completed. Now it's time for the next chapter, producing vehicles that are Engineered for Excellence, by KIA. The name stays but the badge is now different as the mission is also different.

Now, I'm sure they will be folks that get annoyed to hear KIA mentioned in the same breath as the German luxury brands. Remember this, those guys started someplace and while they are revered here, they are just a regular brand in their home market, we just get the dressed up versions here. Much like in China, where some GM brands are considered luxury cars but don't hold the same prestige here. KIA has improved greatly as a brand, they still have a way to go but it's people's perceptions that has to change.

It still astound me that Land Rover is still in business, they make some of the most unreliable vehicles and charge ridiculous prices for them. The buyers go on about the prestige and heritage of the brand when the thing breaks with months or even days of taking delivery of one. As long as folks are willing to pay that sort of money they will still be around. Let's hope that is going back into engineering better car in the future and that folks don't get tired of them and they end up going out of business. Then again, someone will resurrect the badge later based on what it stood for and we will see it make a resurgence while charging even more ridiculous prices. What badge will KIA be wearing then? LOL!!
 
...............the dealers are a bigger issue for their assault to achieve Premium/Luxury status
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Would love to see the larger infotainment screen and maybe even the digital dash make its way into future stingers.
 
Well, the K900 gets such a thing, I figure the refreshed Stinger will get that as well.
 
The digital gauge cluster will make its way down beyond the Stinger.

Here's the full review.

 
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