US EV6 GT review are out. This is what the Stinger should have been!

[bfglitch]

Haha! Sucks to be him. My battery tendered car will fire right up at negative numbers.

Now granted, that's at least one reported. I do have a neighbor across the street from me with a Tesla that didn't appear to have any problems as far as I know and I think the coldest it got here was about 6F. No clue where they charge it considering they're townhouses without garages or driveways. Can't imagine they're running a 120v extension cord to their car.

 

[Hiryuu]

It got as low as -9F here a few days ago, current at +14F. How well do these ev's run in such cold temps?

You won't get the full rated range in cold weather unfortunately

 

[Waynerm002]

You won't get the full rated range in cold weather unfortunately

EVs doesn't do well in cold, well that applies to all vehicle. You range tends to suffer in the cold. As for pricing, my 21 e-tron was $77K MSRP for 225 miles of range but was really 187, the way I drive. Their S version was 188 miles if I remember correctly, it was even more expensive and people were buying them, if you can afford it and have chargers close by, burn up that rubber. For 2023, the e-tron will get a range increase to @ 300 miles of range. There is always a cost for performance vehicles, more than the purchase price.

 

[LordKOTL]

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Anyone ready to trade their Stinger for the EV6 GT? Well, if you can get one.

Hard no from me--and not just because I only got my Stinger 4 months ago.

Power specs are very sweet, but it's a CUV body and not a Sedan/liftback, and it has a range of only 206 miles.

 

[stoopid]

EVs doesn't do well in cold, well that applies to all vehicle. You range tends to suffer in the cold. As for pricing, my 21 e-tron was $77K MSRP for 225 miles of range but was really 187, the way I drive. Their S version was 188 miles if I remember correctly, it was even more expensive and people were buying them, if you can afford it and have chargers close by, burn up that rubber. For 2023, the e-tron will get a range increase to @ 300 miles of range. There is always a cost for performance vehicles, more than the purchase price.

I think 300 miles WITH fast charging in a performance-ish EV is the sweet spot. I could live with that. Things are only improving by the day with regards to fast charging station availability (assuming they're not out of service/needing repair, which does happen). I'm betting on things improving enough in the next couple years when I'm ready to make the plunge. Bigger question is... can our power grid get upgraded in time? As it is right now, we are only barely keeping up with current demand (pun intended).

Many EVs heat the battery packs once operating, it's the initial 'startup' and the time until things warm they're inefficient. The battery pack also generates its own heat when in use, so that eventually helps things once they're running for a bit in the cold. Definitely a suboptimal situation in the coldest months but not hard stop barrier. They lose less efficiency in the heat of the summer, and get cooled using the same strategy when it's hot to help offset the ambient temps and heat the packs generate on their own. Our combustion engine cars are constantly doing the same things as well, with some (comparatively nominal) efficiency loss.

 

[tshing02]

I'll wait for this one. Hopefully it comes..

 

[RM7]

It got as low as -9F here a few days ago, current at +14F. How well do these ev's run in such cold temps?

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Teslas here in Alaska driving around every day. A few of them race with us at the track. I see many of them every time I'm out. They are here in significant numbers. I see other EVs too, but not nearly as many. More non-Teslas though in the last couple years.

 

[Waynerm002]

I think 300 miles WITH fast charging in a performance-ish EV is the sweet spot. I could live with that. Things are only improving by the day with regards to fast charging station availability (assuming they're not out of service/needing repair, which does happen). I'm betting on things improving enough in the next couple years when I'm ready to make the plunge. Bigger question is... can our power grid get upgraded in time? As it is right now, we are only barely keeping up with current demand (pun intended).

Many EVs heat the battery packs once operating, it's the initial 'startup' and the time until things warm they're inefficient. The battery pack also generates its own heat when in use, so that eventually helps things once they're running for a bit in the cold. Definitely a suboptimal situation in the coldest months but not hard stop barrier. They lose less efficiency in the heat of the summer, and get cooled using the same strategy when it's hot to help offset the ambient temps and heat the packs generate on their own. Our combustion engine cars are constantly doing the same things as well, with some (comparatively nominal) efficiency loss.

Thing will certainly improve over time. I've seen EV chargers placed close to gas stations, which is better than being at a bank with no place to grab a snack or hang out. Soon, EV charge points will be like gas stations where you can get snacks, I think they should have restaurants or fast food places next to them as well. Also, they should be placed where they can be monitored for people wanting to damage them.

 

[7Andrei7]

Someone trashed it a little on the Nurburgring. Seems really fast and has insane oversteer . Maybe the tires?

 

[Waynerm002]

That was fun. Production vehicles typically come with tires that are a bit of a compromise of performance, economy and noise levels. The really good stuff is going to cost a lot and wont last long. The Stinger went from performance tires to GT tires later in the production years after complaints of stiff ride quality. Folks with the 18" setup didn't have that issue. Some of us went with Ultra High Performance All Season tires for 4 season use or in my case 3 season use and then winter tires for the cold season. I'm curious to see the demand for this vehicle once it hits the US market.

 

[Rodtheviking]

Went to look at one on Monday, had a 7900.00 dealer mark up that put it 74k without tax. I'll wait.

 

[Waynerm002]

These dealers are so crooked. Things are hard and they are still pulling the same nonsense. That’s why a bunch of them will fail.

 

[BuckeyeSVT]

I think the Stinger and the EV6 have their place, but there is no way you could substitute the EV6 for the Stinger. I think when the G70 finally goes electric on the new platform there may be a replacement Stinger. Let's hope anyways.. lol.

 

[Clearly Canadian]

I think the Stinger and the EV6 have their place, but there is no way you could substitute the EV6 for the Stinger. I think when the G70 finally goes electric on the new platform there may be a replacement Stinger. Let's hope anyways.. lol.

Would you be able to expand on your comment above?

 

[7Andrei7]

I've said this before, I'm pretty sure the Ioniq 6 will be the base for the new Stinger or EV7 or whatever the name.
It can already be ordered in Europe as a "first edition".
IONIQ 6 Design | Eco - Hyundai Worldwide

 

[GraphicGoose]

Maybe it's just me...but why are all these electric vehicles interiors so boring? They're all mostly a flat lump of plastic with an ipad or two stuck on top. I dunno, my Stinger hasn't arrived yet (currently in the dealers holding yard waiting for them to do whatever they need to do to get it registered and slap some tint on ), but that was one of the things I really liked when I test drove the Stinger before buying it - it feels like you're sitting inside a car, and a nice one at that.

 

[Redleg94]

I've said this before, I'm pretty sure the Ioniq 6 will be the base for the new Stinger or EV7 or whatever the name.
It can already be ordered in Europe as a "first edition".
IONIQ 6 Design | Eco - Hyundai Worldwide

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Agreed, the Ioniq 6 would make a great start for a new Stinger. The platform should be easily adaptable to a liftback sedan format. But the EV6 GT running gear underneath, and you'd have something that easily competes with the Model S. Would be fun to see it as a wagon as well.

 

[Waynerm002]

That N Vision 74 has a nice look and specs for a platform for KIA to build their next Stinger from. However, based on current naming convention for their EV vehicles, I'm not sure we would see the Stinger name on an EV. Audi and Porsche has nice sporty EV GT vehicles which resembles the Stinger, KIA should really consider building such a vehicle to replace the Stinger.