Tragic Loss of Life

[Devin]

While we're at it we should mourn the countless children starving to death or dying from disease in third-world countries.

Who gives a crap if it's a Stinger or a Ferrari or a Corvette or some $950 clunker you buy with cash? Someone died, probably painfully and in a frightening way, and it sucks. But agreed, as other posters have said, modern cars are far too distracting while also giving drivers a false sense of confidence in their driving ability.

It's sad whenever people die but it is what it is.





lol

Tone deaf much?

 

[AusStinger]

Who gives a crap if it's a Stinger or a Ferrari or a Corvette or some $950 clunker you buy with cash? Someone died, probably painfully and in a frightening way, and it sucks. But agreed, as other posters have said, modern cars are far too distracting while also giving drivers a false sense of confidence in their driving ability.

It's sad whenever people die but it is what it is.

Agreed.

You'll only ever know how vulnerable you really are in a car after you've been in a big hit. Even a near miss or a minor fender bender can't give you the picture of what happens when it all goes really wrong ( I speak from experience ). When you get behind the wheel of any car, you make choices and those choices may have consequences. You will live ( or die ) with the choices you make.

If you take yourself out doing what you do, too bad, so sad. It's the consequence of a choice you made. I just feel for the next of kin or others impacted. If you kill or injure someone in the car with you. That really sucks ! If you kill or injure an innocent person by your actions, zero sympathy for you.

A squirt on the street now and then is a buzz, but it does comes with risks ( refer above remains of a Stinger ).

 

[MerlintheMad]

Agreed.

You'll only ever know how vulnerable you really are in a car after you've been in a big hit. Even a near miss or a minor fender bender can't give you the picture of what happens when it all goes really wrong ( I speak from experience ). When you get behind the wheel of any car, you make choices and those choices may have consequences. You will live ( or die ) with the choices you make.

If you take yourself out doing what you do, too bad, so sad. It's the consequence of a choice you made. I just feel for the next of kin or others impacted. If you kill or injure someone in the car with you. That really sucks ! If you kill or injure an innocent person by your actions, zero sympathy for you.

A squirt on the street now and then is a buzz, but it does comes with risks ( refer above remains of a Stinger ).

Somebody's baby girl died beside this idiot. She made a choice too.

 

[AusStinger]

Somebody's baby girl died beside this idiot. She made a choice too.

Correct, and I feel for her and her family, but as you said, she made the choice to get in that car with that driver in that environment.

I don't want to seem cold, and don't get me wrong, I'm a father of a girl and if that was her in the passenger seat, I'd be devastated, but I do educate my daughter to look for warning signs in life. Young driver, new POWERFUL car.....

About 15 years ago I was in Japan and caught up with one of the midnight car meets and ended up going out for a shotgun blast in 1,400HP R33 GT-R. When the driver started power sliding at 140KPH I tapped out with a smile. When we got back to the meet he joked about me being chicken. I smiled and said it was fun but too much for me. Fast forward 12 months, same guy, same car, same road, same speeds. Both driver and passenger died.

Was I just lucky or did I make a choice to tap out ?

 

[Aloneinthefog1]

There's no replacement for driver skill and experience (and risk aversion). The bells and whistles are merely supplements.

Like Clint Eastwood said in the movie Magnum Force "a man's got to know his limitations"

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Agreed.

You'll only ever know how vulnerable you really are in a car after you've been in a big hit. Even a near miss or a minor fender bender can't give you the picture of what happens when it all goes really wrong ( I speak from experience ). When you get behind the wheel of any car, you make choices and those choices may have consequences. You will live ( or die ) with the choices you make.

If you take yourself out doing what you do, too bad, so sad. It's the consequence of a choice you made. I just feel for the next of kin or others impacted. If you kill or injure someone in the car with you. That really sucks ! If you kill or injure an innocent person by your actions, zero sympathy for you.

A squirt on the street now and then is a buzz, but it does comes with risks ( refer above remains of a Stinger ).

yupperz! Human nature is a crazy thing...

Tone deaf much?

probably ?

 

[G-129826]

Some are saying this is the problem with cars today. Sorry, the problem is with the drivers. A responsible driver don't drive 100 mph on city streets. The driver was on a first date with the female and the car was brand new... the next years model! He was pulled over 12 minutes earlier for speeding and wreckless driving. That was the warning he got from the powers that be. He ignored that warning. I get it, they were on a first date and on their way to his house. Very sad. From the police video they seemed like decent people and had their entire life ahead of them. My point, funny blame the car for human mistakes.

 

[NS_Stinger]

Full officer cam footage was released on this recently. They had just beem pulled over 10mins earlier and given 3 tickets including one for reckless driving. Same officer that gave them the tickets was on scene 10mins later to their fatal accident. Be careful out there guys...

 

[ScottM]

My opinion and I agree with the Clint Eastwood comment...gotta know your limits. It's not just your own life that you might save by driving in a solid manner, it's the hundreds that are on the same road as you. Be nice and don't be a stupid driver.

 

[Snicklefritz]

Be nice and don't be a stupid driver.

and always do everything you can to have 'fightin' room'. yesterday some idiot pulled out of a parking lot, swung into a sweeping lefthand turn and into my lane, and I had to move into the right lane to avoid getting hit. if someone had been in the right lane beside me my only remaining option would have been hard on the brakes, might have worked might not have. I try to always keep an open space to either side for such events. they happen frequently because eighty percent of drivers have a hefty dose of stupid.

 

[ScottM]

and always do everything you can to have 'fightin' room'. yesterday some idiot pulled out of a parking lot, swung into a sweeping lefthand turn and into my lane, and I had to move into the right lane to avoid getting hit. if someone had been in the right lane beside me my only remaining option would have been hard on the brakes, might have worked might not have. I try to always keep an open space to either side for such events. they happen frequently because eighty percent of drivers have a hefty dose of stupid.

The two biggest things I remember my drivers-ed teacher telling us was; 1. Always expect the worst to happen when driving and 2. Always try to give yourself an "out" when it does. Oh and he said we're going to be part of the problem because we're young, dumb and don't know any better. Me thinks he didn't like us kids.

 

[JSolo]

My biggest pet peeve is following distance, or lack of it. Many drivers are only content when they're close enough to be able to read the license plate frame of the car in front. Having survived many decades on the vehicle to the left, proper following distance has been well drilled in.

Even in heavy traffic, I will maintain a good 10 car+ following distance. Can better see what's ahead, and adjust speed just by throttle (most of the time). Coming from 3 pedaled vehicles this exercise can get tiring quickly.

I see cars doing 70+ mph barely 2-3 car lengths from the car in front. At 70 mph, you travel over 100ft per second! No time to react if there's something in the road.

I agree with the above, always have an escape plan.

 

[Devin]

This is why our cars get nannies. People do enough damage and the government starts taking our choices away.

 

[ScottM]

My biggest pet peeve is following distance, or lack of it. Many drivers are only content when they're close enough to be able to read the license plate frame of the car in front. Having survived many decades on the vehicle to the left, proper following distance has been well drilled in.

Even in heavy traffic, I will maintain a good 10 car+ following distance. Can better see what's ahead, and adjust speed just by throttle (most of the time). Coming from 3 pedaled vehicles this exercise can get tiring quickly.

I see cars doing 70+ mph barely 2-3 car lengths from the car in front. At 70 mph, you travel over 100ft per second! No time to react if there's something in the road.

I agree with the above, always have an escape plan.

My pet peeves;

On the regular streets = lack of proper usage of the turn signal; Leaving it on, using it when you're already turning, no turn signal, etc

On the highway = following too close; Tailgating me or others expecting us to speed up, no matter the lane (I coast down) and swooping in and out of lanes with NO room to spare.

Crazy madness to me!

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Full officer cam footage was released on this recently. They had just beem pulled over 10mins earlier and given 3 tickets including one for reckless driving. Same officer that gave them the tickets was on scene 10mins later to their fatal accident. Be careful out there guys...

Omg! What an absolute moron that stinger driver was. Even after getting a ticket, you would think, he whould slow down, at least for that day. I am sorry, I can't even feel bad for that idiot.

 

[JSolo]

^^I think it was back in 4th or 5th grade science, we studied the theory of Darwinism.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

^^I think it was back in 4th or 5th grade science, we studied the theory of Darwinism.

Yeah. That fool clearly earned his Darwin award here.

 

[Volfy]

My younger self did some stupid stuff too. Quite often I'm amazed I'm still alive. That said, going 100+mph right after getting pulled over by LEO for going 100+mph is on a whole 'nother level of stupid. Even if he had gotten away that time, for a guy that was working that hard to exit the gene pool, fate would've oblige sooner or later.

 

[Buzzman12]

Has anybody not wondered how a young kid like him ends up in a brand new Stinger? Was it his, his parents?
I didn't watch the body cam video, so maybe the answer is in there, but still...
A new driver in a rocket of a car. Recipe for disaster.

 

[Volfy]

If he or his family can afford a nice car, I don't see a problem in of itself. The car didn't cause the crash. It's what the driver does with it that did. The guy could've killed himself just as dead with a 120HP Rio. That might not seem like much these days, but back when I was that age, I drove a VW GTI that had 129HP that had a top speed in excess of 125mph. It was the hot natch of that era.

That said, if the car was bought by his parents, then the onus was on them to have know what was appropriate, base on their kid's propensity. It is why the parents of that Michigan high school shooter have been charged for involuntary manslaughter. That certainly is a valid issue.