3.3TT Summer Tire Slip and Slide

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

For those wondering about the 19" Pilot Sport 4's performance in the wet, it's quite easy to lose traction on all four tires and send the whole car sliding, when cornering. The compounds on the Pilot Sport 4's were supposed to be good in the rain, and while I'd say they seem to do fine in a straight line, if you corner with a hint of gusto, the car will slide (I have an AWD GT). That's a strange feeling, at low speeds. With the Stinger's Pilot Sport 4's and some rain, you can easily go slip and sliding. For those living in rainy places, don't pay much attention to the wet ability of the Sports. They will work for normal driving, but they can't handle even mildly spirited cornering once it starts getting slick out. If you like to corner in the rain, all seasons will be needed.

 

[Waynerm002]

The Pilot Sport 4S is a highly tire, I doubt any all season tire will perform better in the wet. Now, if the temps were low enough to keep them outside their performance range, that would lessen their grip. An All Season tire wouldn’t fare significantly better in the same situation. Keep in mind the warmer the temps the better they perform, also these tires tend to wear faster so if do some hard launches and drive them hard a lot that would affect their performance. Maybe that’s what you are experiencing.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

The Pilot Sport 4S is a highly tire, I doubt any all season tire will perform better in the wet. Now, if the temps were low enough to keep them outside their performance range, that would lessen their grip. An All Season tire wouldn’t fare significantly better in the same situation. Keep in mind the warmer the temps the better they perform, also these tires tend to wear faster so if do some hard launches and drive them hard a lot that would affect their performance. Maybe that’s what you are experiencing.

Nope. Car is new, never done a "launch" and never will. I'm in the breakin phase, and am babying it. If all seasons didn't make a difference, this car would be useless for my needs. I expect excellent grip in the wet (I live in Seattle), and have been happy with Control Contact Sports on my previous cars. I don't expect wet grip from a summer tire, so this wasn't entirely surprising, despite their alleged acceptableness in the rain. Like I said, they seem fine for normal driving, but not remotely spirited cornering.

 

[Nexitus]

As someone with basically the same weather pattern as Seattle (hurrah Vancouver). My biggest worry was the tires that came equipped as there isn't a whole lot of information out there on them. There are plenty on the 4S, but that's a whole different tire altogether.

I might end up getting Pilot Sport A/S 3+'s as the weather here is usually 3c - 25c 95% of the year.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

As someone with basically the same weather pattern as Seattle (hurrah Vancouver). My biggest worry was the tires that came equipped as there isn't a whole lot of information out there on them. There are plenty on the 4S, but that's a whole different tire altogether.

I might end up getting Pilot Sport A/S 3+'s as the weather here is usually 3c - 25c 95% of the year.

I found a review between the Control Contact Sport A/S and the Pilot Sport A/S 3+'s before, and the Contact Sport's did better in the wet. Of course I can't find it now. The wet performance was what led me to choose the Contact Sports over the Pilot Sport's. The right tire really depends on usage case, of course. For myself, wet performance is important, as is solid grip at high speeds. If snow performance was of greater interest, then perhaps another tire would be better. I've driven the Contact Sports through snowy passes, torrential rains, and flying around turns in summer, so, I'm quite happy with them. The snow thing is rare though, and if I was going to do that more, I'd get a winter tire. The Contact Sports are geared to ultra high performance (hence their name), not snow. If the Pilot Sport A/S 3+'s were better, I'd get them, but from the reviews I saw, they were worse in the wet, and also didn't last as long (two knocks against them). However, the Control Contact Sports are only available at Discount Tire (I don't know if they have those in Canada). Max speed from 0-60 is of no interest to me, just excellent grip in the rain and high speed cornering (rain or shine).

If you look at pictures of the two tires, you can see why the Pilot Sports A/S 3+'s would be better off the line and at stopping, and why the Contact Sports would be better for rain and cornering (serious bite). All the performance car guys I know in Seattle also run the Contact Sports. I'm sure tires are some kind of religion, so I don't want to start that debate, I'm just letting you know which tire I'll be getting and why. Every person's preferences and usages cases will be different.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

Spoke too soon. They don't make the Control Contact Sports in Stinger tire dimensions (yet). I guess may have to look for another tire after all.

 

[Nexitus]

Have you looked into the ExtremeContact DWS 06?

Not sure how that compares to the one you suggested, but it would be quite similar if you wanted a well rounded all-season performer that doesn't focus on the dry / 0-60 performance. I am slightly torn between the Michelin and this Conti.

 

[westcoastGT]

I've had the Extreme Contact DWS and they were great , almost bought them for my GT but opted to go with BF Goodrich , actually just sold my stock Michelins today , for reference I cant get my car to break loose in the rain here so you may want to consider my tire , they were excellent in snow this winter as well FYI

 

[Nexitus]

I've had the Extreme Contact DWS and they were great , almost bought them for my GT but opted to go with BF Goodrich , actually just sold my stock Michelins today , for reference I cant get my car to break loose in the rain here so you may want to consider my tire , they were excellent in snow this winter as well FYI

Nice, another Vancouverite! Glad I'm not the only one that didn't want the summer/winter juggling act.

Did you get the BF Goodrich at Costco? And mind letting me know how much you were able to sell the stock tires for?

 

[westcoastGT]

Nice, another Vancouverite! Glad I'm not the only one that didn't want the summer/winter juggling act.

Did you get the BF Goodrich at Costco? And mind letting me know how much you were able to sell the stock tires for?

I had my dealer bring them in and swapped prior to delivery sold the Michelins for $ 1100 CAD

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

This seems to be an oddball tire size. I'll probably just wait the summer out, and see what happens. The Michelin's A/S 3+'s may be the best option at the moment. More research ahead...

 

[westcoastGT]

This seems to be an oddball tire size. I'll probably just wait the summer out, and see what happens. The Michelin's A/S 3+'s may be the best option at the moment. More research ahead...

Its a very common size for German cars , Tirerack is good place to look , lots of reviews in the tire and wheel section here as well

 

[phxgt]

Nope. Car is new, never done a "launch" and never will. I'm in the breakin phase, and am babying it. If all seasons didn't make a difference, this car would be useless for my needs. I expect excellent grip in the wet (I live in Seattle), and have been happy with Control Contact Sports on my previous cars. I don't expect wet grip from a summer tire, so this wasn't entirely surprising, despite their alleged acceptableness in the rain. Like I said, they seem fine for normal driving, but not remotely spirited cornering.

Didn't you do "power slides" in the test drive of the car you bought?
https://stingerforum.org/threads/car-pros-kia-renton-

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

Its a very common size for German cars , Tirerack is good place to look , lots of reviews in the tire and wheel section here as well

I prefer getting my tires at Discount Tire, because they are all over the US, the warranty is great, and I don't have to worry about the tires after I buy them. If there is any issue with the tire, a screw gets in it, what have you, wherever I am, they have a store nearby that will take care of it all for free. I'll also push my tires hard on those corners, so, I get them checked for and/or re-balanced regularly (which is also free). TireRack is a place I check reviews (from buyers and their own videos), but I wouldn't buy my tires online, given the convenience I get from Discount.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

Didn't you do "power slides" in the test drive of the car you bought?
https://stingerforum.org/threads/car-pros-kia-renton-

Yes, a few on the test drive. I needed to know the car could handle itself.

 

[phxgt]

Yes, a few on the test drive. I needed to know the car could handle itself.

Glad your enjoying your car. Come to Phoenix sometime.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

Its a very common size for German cars , Tirerack is good place to look , lots of reviews in the tire and wheel section here as well

I found a 2016 review of UHP all seasons by TireRack, and the best of the three in the test was the Pirelli Zero All Season Plus. Unfortunately, it's not available in Stinger 19" size. Grrr. Getting tires for this seems to be harder than one would hope.

 

[Sensibly Spirited Driver]

Glad your enjoying your car. Come to Phoenix sometime.

Tempting, but the heat is a bit extreme. I'll travel a long way for good roads, though.

 

[Nexitus]

Ever comtemplate of gett

I had my dealer bring them in and swapped prior to delivery sold the Michelins for $ 1100 CAD

Damn, you just craigslist those tires?

 

[Leftlane]

Interesting info everyone is providing about the summer tires on the 19 inch GT.

The purpose any tire (for normal public drivers, is to grip and maintain control. So I am concerned with the sliding in corner stories.

I live in Florida, so to hear it has summer tires is a plus. But our rains or mostly in the summer and usually huge down pours.

My question to the forum is... should I opt for a different tire when I get a GT2?