Stock Stinger HP numbers: Kia is massively underestimating power.

[Lord3Putt]

Finally!! Crickets from the blind boy.

You're so cool, bro

 

[Nuthadey]

I don’t understand why people get so defensive over the Stinger lol. There will always be faster and nicer cars. I stated facts from multiple sources.

Now you're gonna get it! Lmao.

 

[Gleis25]

Most of us have already done the research and have had real world experiences with Redsports. Me and multiple of my Stinger buddies have gapped them so we know they are slower. And if you don’t believe it, here is some proof from the exact same magazine & equipment showing those facts.
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The Stinger is quicker to 60mph & 1/4m by 0.1sec, and 0.7sec on a roll from 30-50mph. That is huge on a roll race and we easily leave them in the dust.

You picked the only source that has the Stinger running those numbers. You ignore every other source on purpose because the overwhelming majority support what I’ve said. Everyone on this forum “gaps” everyone they ”race” because it’s the internet and you can claim literally anything you want. Please do educate yourself thoroughly and then come back and try to argue your points.

 

[Gleis25]

Finally!! Crickets from the blind boy.

Go away bud. The forums are hard to read and frankly I stay away from it more recently because of cancer like this. Find facts and back up your argument or don’t speak. It makes you look ignorant

 

[cncBilly]

Go away bud. The forums are hard to read and frankly I stay away from it more recently because of cancer like this. Find facts and back up your argument or don’t speak. It makes you look ignorant

At this point dude, you’re the only one looking ignorant here. But that’s ok because your particular type of ignorance is very . Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day

 

[Gleis25]

At this point dude, you’re the only one looking ignorant here. But that’s ok because your particular type of ignorance is very . Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day

I’ll continue to wait for you to say anything worthwhile to the argument. Thanks for proving my point though bud

 

[cncBilly]

I’ll continue to wait for you to say anything worthwhile to the argument. Thanks for proving my point though bud

Thx again

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Not sure if you know this, but your "roll from 30-50mph" is in fact a 'top gear' pull. According to your "facts", the Stinger trapped 111mph compared to the Infiniti's 112mph...which is more indicative of rolling races...not et's.

I have an actual buddy who does in fact own a 18' Q60 RS. We did maybe 6-7 different pulls when I was bone-stock. It pretty much comes down to who gets the initial jump.

Here we go with more misinformation, selective hearing/reading and misleading explanations to try to be right.

Yes I know it was a "top gear" pull which actually favors the Stinger even more since the Q50 was in 7th and our Stinger was in 8th gear. Also, the trap is a better indicator of top end power than ET, but you left out the fact that the Stinger hits 140mph .2sec quicker than the Q50. That is even more indicative of roll races since the most popular measurement for rolls is 60-130 which the Stinger would be accelerating quicker and pulling away from the Q50.

You must have a 2019 Stinger as myself and three of my buddies with 2018 Stingers have all slowly walked away from Q50 RS's before we had mods. I'm not saying it was a blowout and we easily gap them, but we are undoubtedly quicker especially during rolls...

 

[Lord3Putt]

Here we go with more misinformation, selective hearing/reading and misleading explanations to try to be right.

I hope you see the hypocrisy in saying this to someone else.

Yes I know it was a "top gear" pull

Yep. Nice try, bro.

which actually favors the Stinger even more since the Q50 was in 7th and our Stinger was in 8th gear.

I hear ya. When I roll-race from 30mph I ALWAYS start in 8th gear. It's a great way to test the performance of a car.

Also, the trap is a better indicator of top end power than ET, but you left out the fact that the Stinger hits 140mph .2sec quicker than the Q50. That is even more indicative of roll races since the most popular measurement for rolls is 60-130 which the Stinger would be accelerating quicker and pulling away from the Q50.

It MAY be quicker to 140mph, but that's from a stop...not a roll. So, once again, you're close, but just off.

I'm not saying it was a blowout and we easily gap them

The Stinger is quicker to 60mph & 1/4m by 0.1sec, and 0.7sec on a roll from 30-50mph. That is huge on a roll race and we easily leave them in the dust.

You can't even make this stuff up....smfh

You must have a 2019 Stinger as myself and three of my buddies with 2018 Stingers have all slowly walked away from Q50 RS's before we had mods.

I do have a '19. I've also seen you posting around about how the 2019's have less hp than the 2018's. I'm very interested in your source. I'm not saying it's not true. I've just never read/seen that anywhere. I'm sure it came from your "buddies". You should post up their dyno results. Maybe another one of your "buddies" will create an account on here just to tell you you "Gotta stop with the false information". (That had to be embarrassing)

Also, Motor Trend tested a 2018 Stinger GT @ 4.8 0-60 & a 1/4 mile of 13.3 @ 106.9mph. They also tested a 2016 Q50 RS @ 4.5 0-60 & a 1/4 mile of 13.0 @ 109.2mph. You should contact them and tell them to stop spreading false information. Let them know that you and your "buddies" own the streets of Florida. Maybe send them some of your dyno #'s.

FYI, I'm not saying you're a liar...I just think you don't always tell the truth.

HAVE AN AWESOME THURSDAY, BROTHA!!!

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I hope you see the hypocrisy in saying this to someone else.




Yep. Nice try, bro.



I hear ya. When I roll-race from 30mph I ALWAYS start in 8th gear. It's a great way to test the performance of a car.




It MAY be quicker to 140mph, but that's from a stop...not a roll. So, once again, you're close, but just off.






You can't even make this stuff up....smfh




I do have a '19. I've also seen you posting around about how the 2019's have less hp than the 2018's. I'm very interested in your source. I'm not saying it's not true. I've just never read/seen that anywhere. I'm sure it came from your "buddies". You should post up their dyno results. Maybe another one of your "buddies" will create an account on here just to tell you you "Gotta stop with the false information". (That had to be embarrassing)

Also, Motor Trend tested a 2018 Stinger GT @ 4.8 0-60 & a 1/4 mile of 13.3 @ 106.9mph. They also tested a 2016 Q50 RS @ 4.5 0-60 & a 1/4 mile of 13.0 @ 109.2mph. You should contact them and tell them to stop spreading false information. Let them know that you and your "buddies" own the streets of Florida. Maybe send them some of your dyno #'s.

FYI, I'm not saying you're a liar...I just think you don't always tell the truth.

HAVE AN AWESOME THURSDAY, BROTHA!!!

You seriously need to get a life instead of following me around from thread to tread trying to win an argument. Im flattered that you’re obsessed with me, but it’s just too much work having to re-explain everything you don’t understand. I don’t want to waste even more time citing each comment like you do, so I’ll just reply to all yours below.

I do understand hypocrisy but it doesn’t apply to me or this conversation. However it truly explains almost every post you’ve made in this forum so far...

Lol. Do you really not understand my point, or how acceleration through a power curve works? If Stingers are in an extra overdrive gear, but can still accelerate much quicker then we have more power under & throughout the curve. That fact will apply for almost any speed and definitely on rolls...

Wow...SMH. You do realize that once you’re both at full throttle you’re accelerating the same way whether from a stop or a roll. So if you actually looked at the stats you’d see that at 100mph the Stinger was 0.1 behind, but did the next 40mph a total of 0.3 quicker. So any way you look at it the Stinger is walking away from the Q50 RS, especially on a roll...

Nice job with your “selective reading” and taking my statements out of context to try to make a point. As I explained, on actual races they weren’t blowouts but we all consistently pulled away from the q50s. The completely separate statement was describing that specific example and how huge a 0.7sec lead would be on a roll race which in deed would leave them or anybody in the dust.

Since you don’t seem to understand environmental variables I’ll try to explain. There is a reason performance statistics often have a disclaimer “results may vary” because there are too many variables when trying to compare 0-60 & 1/4m times. Road, weather/DA, and weight conditions can easily make the same car slower or faster depending on when & where they were testing. But since some people want to focus on others testing instead of their own real world results, heres another example supporting what most of us already know. Motorweek’s Stinger testing showed very similar numbers of 4.5 0-60 & 13.0 1/4m to C&D/R&Ts 4.4/12.9 so multiple credible sources show & confirm better numbers than that one from MT you’re trying to use to make a point.

Thanks for clarifying and now it makes sense why your Stinger is slower than mine and my friends 18’s. You obviously don’t know enough about our Stingers, and suggest you do more research yourself. There are dynos & race videos all over the web that show the differences between 18’s & 19’s. You’re also mistaken again, as I never said it’s more HP. Its a significant difference in TQ and can be seen on BMSs dynos with 515-530wtq, and my two buddies dynos of 536-551wtq below just to share a few 2018 modded Stinger results.

My friends with 2019s and other dynos online show about 30-50wtq less and not more than 500wtq with similar mods. I’m sorry if the truth hurts, and you didn’t get one of the original Stingers with the extra power, but they are all still awesome cars nonetheless.

Lastly, your lame insults are just childish and your irrelevant or illogical comments keep making me feel like I’m arguing with a child. But I hope you learned something today and request that you stop following me around repeatedly starting losing arguments. Thanks in advance and have an awesome life even if most of it is living under a rock.

 

[runner1]

19s do seem to be a bit softer. I’ve not yet seen a stock 19 awd that runs close to the mid 4’s that first year cars did. Anyone here draggy a stock awd from 2019? I run consistently over five seconds as do most gt2 awd cars from 2019 I’ve seen

 

[Lord3Putt]

You seriously need to get a life

Yup. That's why I have over 1.5k posts in the forum. Because that's all I do...every day.

I do understand hypocrisy but it doesn’t apply to me or this conversation.

You clearly don't.

However it truly explains almost every post you’ve made in this forum so far...

Okay. Show me 1 example of me being a hypocrite.....I'll wait.

Do you really not understand my point, or how acceleration through a power curve works? If Stingers are in an extra overdrive gear, but can still accelerate much quicker then we have more power under & throughout the curve. That fact will apply for almost any speed and definitely on rolls...

You're still trying to cover up the fact that you didn't know you quoted a "top gear 30-50" pull. Just give it up.

Nice job with your “selective reading” and taking my statements out of context to try to make a point.

However, we are very closely matched to the Q50 RS 400 and like others said run very similar numbers. I’ve played with a couple and usually took about 1/4 car length lead but neither of us could walk away from the other.

Post #23

Me and multiple of my Stinger buddies have gapped them so we know they are slower.

Post #36

The Stinger is quicker to 60mph & 1/4m by 0.1sec, and 0.7sec on a roll from 30-50mph. That is huge on a roll race and we easily leave them in the dust.

Also Post #36

You must have a 2019 Stinger as myself and three of my buddies with 2018 Stingers have all slowly walked away from Q50 RS's before we had mods. I'm not saying it was a blowout and we easily gap them, but we are undoubtedly quicker especially during rolls...

Post #48

No selective reading needed. I literally just copied what you wrote.

As I explained, on actual races they weren’t blowouts but we all consistently pulled away from the q50s.

but neither of us could walk away from the other.

Post #23

Me and multiple of my Stinger buddies have gapped them

Post #36
I'll just leave these here again for you to read.

The completely separate statement was describing that specific example and how huge a 0.7sec lead would be on a roll race which in deed would leave them or anybody in the dust.

You are 100% correct here. If the Stinger and Q50 RS were to race from 30mph to 50mph in their top gears (8th & 7th respectively) the Stinger will "leave them in the dust."

Stinger testing showed very similar numbers of 4.5 0-60 & 13.0 1/4m to C&D/R&Ts 4.4/12.9 so multiple credible sources show & confirm better numbers than that one from MT you’re trying to use to make a point.

Close. They ACTUALLY had the Stinger at 13.1sec @108mph....but they also had the Q50 RS at 13.0sec @110mph.

Thanks for clarifying and now it makes sense why your Stinger is slower than mine and my friends 18’s.

I'm pretty sure my car isn't slower than your intake/exhaust modded beast. If it is, Terry's got some explainin' to do.

You obviously don’t know enough about our Stingers, and suggest you do more research yourself. There are dynos & race videos all over the web that show the differences between 18’s & 19’s.

No argument there. I definitely don't have the time, or the care, to scour the interwebs for every dyno chart I see.

You’re also mistaken again, as I never said it’s more HP. Its a significant difference in TQ and can be seen on BMSs dynos with 515-530wtq, and my two buddies dynos of 536-551wtq below just to share a few 2018 modded Stinger results.

You must've missed the part where I said "I'm not saying it's not true."
I literally wanted to know where this info came from. If it's KIA, great. If it's your "buddies" running a couple different cars on dynos on different days with different mods on fuel from different stations...well...not the kind of "facts" that I'd personally be telling people.

I’m sorry if the truth hurts, and you didn’t get one of the original Stingers with the extra power, but they are all still awesome cars nonetheless.

If only I could've got a 2018. Too bad I had to settle for the '19. And I can't believe I let myself buy the GT2 when the GT's are a bit lighter. That extra .05sec in a 1/4 mile sure would mean a lot to me.

Lastly, your lame insults are just childish and your irrelevant or illogical comments keep making me feel like I’m arguing with a child.

@xot1 literally said this to you; "I am very sorry to say that but reading you feels like talking with a child." And then you try to deflect the same slight onto me...sad.

 

[laynevans]

That all depends on what type of dyno you are referring to. Load bearing dynos like Mustang dynos can be adjusted for different conditions and sometimes vary significantly. They are generally more accurate for before and after results on the same car for tuning, but cannot be compared from car to car or different environmental conditions like a dynojet. The main reason dynojet is the most popular dyno is because it’s standardized and is the best way to compare power from different cars and/or environments. On dynojets we almost always run between 325-335whp stock which is less than a 3% variance from dynos across the world.

That’s really more comparable than the 12.9 vs 13.3 times you’re quoting. Actually Stock Stingers have ran as quick as 12.6 in ideal conditions and depends on several variables to replicate those lower times. What year, trim level, tires and differential do you have?

Mine is 2020MY, GT... 3.3TT, The Michelin Pilot Sports, standard diff. No bimodal exhaust. How the heck are they getting 12.6!!??

 

[Red Genny]

Hey there fellas,

Wanted to share my stock dyno results as well. I have the Genesis G70 3.3T, although it is the same engine/powertrain as the Stinger 3.3T for those who don't know. It was right under 70°F and moderate humidity that day. I had about 2/3 of a tank of 93 octane gas from QT. The second run was lower because the car got heat soaked really quick, so the car was given no more than a 5 minute break before the third run. Overall, I am very impressed by the results. And as stated, my car is completely stock.

My Drive link to third run video (sorry had to add spaces into link to work): ht tps: // d rive . goo gle . com / file / d / 1mnO6lBcJjqCDUw X62WlLsLvhnyys_C0_ / view ?usp = sharing

 

[Sunseeker]

I happen to agree that the torque figures from KIA are inaccurate. However, for the red sport...

Let’s see what google says.

MotorTrend - From a standstill, the Red Sport booked it to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds and completed the quarter mile in 13 seconds flat at 109.2 mph

MotorTrend - but the rear-drive Stinger GT launches from 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds and clocks the standing quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 106.9 mph.

.3 seconds can be attributed to driver differences. The trap speed, however, not so much.

I’m inclined to say with equal drivers, stock-for-stock, the red sport takes it, but neither car is a slouch in the power arena.

 

[SPYDY007]

^This And to say the Stinger will walk the Red Sport is just ignorance. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Stinger. It’s fast. There are plenty of other fast and faster cars out there too though.

Look at the numbers. Stock for stock, with equal drivers and conditions, the Red Sport wins.

For as much as you’d pay for one I wouldn’t do it. But it is a good looking car and it’s also fast. Just saying

I realize I'm 4 yrs late with this, but I had to let you know that the road tests were done my ThrottleHouse, and even the rolling test proved the Stinger faster, by half a length and 1 1/2 lengths in the drag. They credited these results to the stingers faster transmission. The Q 50s substantial horsepower advantage couldn't overcome it! By now you may have seen this video if not I invite you to check it out on the ThrottleHouse youtube page.

 

[G-531346]

^This And to say the Stinger will walk the Red Sport is just ignorance. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Stinger. It’s fast. There are plenty of other fast and faster cars out there too though.

Look at the numbers. Stock for stock, with equal drivers and conditions, the Red Sport wins.

For as much as you’d pay for one I wouldn’t do it. But it is a good looking car and it’s also fast. Just saying

Well I have actually beat the q50 numbers say no but we raced 3 times won all 3 18 kia stinger gt awd limited edition

 

[Sunseeker]

Sam Carlegion from Canada roll and drag raced the Stinger GT Tribute (368 hp) vs the Q50S Redsport Opal (400 hp)....and the Stinger won. It's the Stinger's tyranny that allows it to overcome the Redsport's 32 hp advantage. The Stinger driver laughed during each race.

 

[Snicklefritz]

It's the Stinger's tyranny ...

cute unintentional pun there. actually, it's the extra pair of exhaust tips that make the difference.

 

[ht_addict]

My time on the track for 1/4 mile 12.589. My reaction time sucked.