Stinger got axed ?

[usagi]

They continue to manufacture the K900 sales stinker yet "axe the stinger".

Riiiiiight.

 

[DTD]

They continue to manufacture the K900 sales stinker yet "axe the stinger".

Riiiiiight.

I don't think so the K900 is done.

 

[Kamauxx]

I don't think so the K900 is done.

They still sell it in Asia.

 

[DTD]

They still sell it in Asia.

Sorry I was thinking of USA. Just like Ford stopped making all cars except the mustang. But outside the USA they still make and sell some cars.

 

[Scorpion1]

wow... wow... wow...

If you can afford it then get the M3 w/ AWD or RS3 lol! No reason to pick a Stinger (even if fully loaded and GT2) over either of those cars. Heck if I had the money I would have picked up a new 2020 S4 or new S5 (5-door) over my new 2020 Stinger GT in a heart beat lmfao

I test drove all those and owned an A7. I wouldn't take any of them over my 2022 Scorpion.

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

I don't like the interior in the 3-series as much as I like the interior in the Stinger, and Audi... I do like it but it's not $10K better than the Stinger and I'm forced to choose EITHER sport seats OR ventilated seats. Since I will probably spend hundreds if not thousands of hours in the interior, the interior design is one of if not the most important factors.

Now, if the BMW didn't come with all that ugly aluminum in the interior, and if it had less hard plastic, I'd have been willing to wait for supply chains to get sorted out, and/or for the M3 xdrive to come out. Another factor is I am undecided as to whether I will stay at my current employer, so I had to do the financing now, because switching jobs even to pull down 60% more can nix financing.

So yes, I did cross-shop with S4, 3-series, and choose Stinger over both Audi S4 and the 3-series. I did not cross-shop with the 5-series and I couldn't wait long enough to see the new RS 3, given that I may be switching jobs if the right opportunity comes along. The only 5-series I'd be interested in (M5) is outside of my budget - for that money I would go with a nice impractical Z06.

 

[YEH]

They continue to manufacture the K900 sales stinker yet "axe the stinger".

Riiiiiight.

The K9 far outsells the Stinger in Korea; a big reason for it being canceled (if true) would be that it sells horribly in Korea.

But let's hope the demise of the Stinger is short-lived and that the rumor of the Stinger being reincarnated as an EV comes to fruition.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I test drove all those and owned an A7. I wouldn't take any of them over my 2022 Scorpion.

You would pick a 2022 Scorpion (if price, money, and cost of ownership was not a factor) over a brand new RS3, RS5 sport-back, M340ix, M3 w/ AWD, or anything else equivalent?

 

[BTA]

I hope the production stops at 2022 model. I like not seeing one on every corner. KIA kill it and yours special.

Just my $.02 worth.

 

[chattanoogastinger]

I test drove all those and owned an A7. I wouldn't take any of them over my 2022 Scorpion.

Over the M3 and the RS3? Come on now, let's not get crazy.

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

Over the M3 and the RS3? Come on now, let's not get crazy.

Since you don't understand the reasoning and seem to be projecting, I'll show you my reasoning in exhaustive detail:

FWIW I'm in the same boat - the realistic timeline for buying an M3 xDrive or RS 3 refresh is next spring, IF they can sort out supply issues, and the RS 3 is still an unknown because all they've released is teasers consisting of marketing hype and a select few photos. So for me, delaying further made no sense as I'd risk missing out on the Stinger entirely based on "what if" supply chain issues are finally resolved and the M3 xDrive and RS 3 arrive sooner and it turns out I'm meh over either option -- with the old RS 3, the back seat is an issue as when roller derby comes back I'll be going road trips with a car load of friends and practicality wins especially considering how tunable the 3.3TT has turned out to be, plus I love the interior which is styled like the Audi, and I can put up with but don't care for the interior in the BMW which for $19K more would likely result in the buyer's regret like I had with the 9-3 Linear (with the Saab, I should have gone for the '06 Aero for just $1500 more but they had a leftover Linear on the lot that had a manual and I was insistent upon sticking with a manual). For a while I was driving by the BMW dealer (which is right next to the Kia dealer) every day waiting for new cars to be in inventory, and the only new sedan they got in was an M2. The lot is pretty bare compared to pre-pandemic. The nearby Audi dealers aren't faring much better with inventory issues so I considered myself lucky to get this GT2.

Since the interior is what one interfaces with over the thousands of hours of a car's useful life, the interior design is very important. With the G70, similar to the the thing that turns me off on the BMW 3 series is the interior, but for different reasons. I prefer the instrumentation and specific interior bits in the G70 refresh over the Stinger refresh but I really don't like the aluminum bits and the interior layout isn't as amazing as it is in the Stinger. Plus, the G70's ambient lighting is a total afterthought.

Sure performance is slightly better with other options, but if it were purely about performance I'd have forgone all practicality and waited for Z06 Corvette then trade up for ZR1/Zora/? in 2025 (rumored to be a 1,000hp AWD hybrid hypercar for about $150K).

I just plain like the Stinger's overall package, especially the interior.

 

[chattanoogastinger]

Since you don't understand the reasoning and seem to be projecting, I'll show you my reasoning in exhaustive detail:

That was not projecting, that was stating the obvious. A microscopic amount of performance car buyers would purchase the Stinger over an M3 or RS3 if they were all the same price and available, and that is the point. (which they will absolutely be available again, with some already hitting lots even in the small city of Chattanooga near me)

For a while I was driving by the BMW dealer (which is right next to the Kia dealer) every day waiting for new cars to be in inventory, and the only new sedan they got in was an M2.

I am assuming you meant the M3, the M2 only comes in coupe form. (the M2 is also a fantastic car, I've owned it, the M235i and the M240i.)

The interior reasons you listed are not even close to being important to the majority of buyers in this segment, but to each their own and happy you bought what you liked the best. Truth be told, it would be awesome if more women would purchase in this segment so manufacturers did not cut out performance models due to low sales all the time.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Since you don't understand the reasoning and seem to be projecting, I'll show you my reasoning in exhaustive detail:

FWIW I'm in the same boat - the realistic timeline for buying an M3 xDrive or RS 3 refresh is next spring, IF they can sort out supply issues, and the RS 3 is still an unknown because all they've released is teasers consisting of marketing hype and a select few photos. So for me, delaying further made no sense as I'd risk missing out on the Stinger entirely based on "what if" supply chain issues are finally resolved and the M3 xDrive and RS 3 arrive sooner and it turns out I'm meh over either option -- with the old RS 3, the back seat is an issue as when roller derby comes back I'll be going road trips with a car load of friends and practicality wins especially considering how tunable the 3.3TT has turned out to be, plus I love the interior which is styled like the Audi, and I can put up with but don't care for the interior in the BMW which for $19K more would likely result in the buyer's regret like I had with the 9-3 Linear (with the Saab, I should have gone for the '06 Aero for just $1500 more but they had a leftover Linear on the lot that had a manual and I was insistent upon sticking with a manual). For a while I was driving by the BMW dealer (which is right next to the Kia dealer) every day waiting for new cars to be in inventory, and the only new sedan they got in was an M2. The lot is pretty bare compared to pre-pandemic. The nearby Audi dealers aren't faring much better with inventory issues so I considered myself lucky to get this GT2.

Since the interior is what one interfaces with over the thousands of hours of a car's useful life, the interior design is very important. With the G70, similar to the the thing that turns me off on the BMW 3 series is the interior, but for different reasons. I prefer the instrumentation and specific interior bits in the G70 refresh over the Stinger refresh but I really don't like the aluminum bits and the interior layout isn't as amazing as it is in the Stinger. Plus, the G70's ambient lighting is a total afterthought.

Sure performance is slightly better with other options, but if it were purely about performance I'd have forgone all practicality and waited for Z06 Corvette then trade up for ZR1/Zora/? in 2025 (rumored to be a 1,000hp AWD hybrid hypercar for about $150K).

I just plain like the Stinger's overall package, especially the interior.

So why not get the 2022 Audi S7 over the 2022 Stinger Scorpion then? They're almost identical in dimensions, cargo capacity, and body style. Heck... the 2021/2022 Audi RS5 (5-door) is pretty similar too. Both cars will outperform, out maneuver, and handle better than the Scorpion while being far more "prestigious" in the eyes of most people.

I mean I can maybe understand, now that you cleared it up, why you would pick a 2022 Stinger Scorpion over a 2021/2022 RS3 or 2021/2022 M3 but still I don't understand why you wouldn't go with a S7 or RS5 (5-door) especially since you already had an A7 before replacing it with the Scorpion.

There is nothing wrong with admitting that cost of ownership, maintenance, insurance, etc. is always a factor along with a very big price difference. If I had the money, or rather if I didn't care to blow my chances of home ownership and retirement, I would have picked up a brand new RS5 (5-door) over my Stinger GT in a heartbeat!

 

[usagi]

The K9 far outsells the Stinger in Korea; a big reason for it being canceled (if true) would be that it sells horribly in Korea.

But let's hope the demise of the Stinger is short-lived and that the rumor of the Stinger being reincarnated as an EV comes to fruition.

K900 is not K9.

No way the K900 outsells the stinger anywhere.

 

[Kamauxx]

K900 is not K9.

K9 and K900 are the same vehicle.

No way the K900 outsells the stinger anywhere.

Kia sells WAY more (over twice as many) K900s in SK than it does Stingers. It's not even close!





Struggling since 2018 to move more than 300 units a month, the Stinger has all but died in South Korea.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

K9 and K900... so like Acura NSX vs Honda NSX ??? Same identical cars just different names depending on where they are sold?

 

[Kamauxx]

K9 and K900... so like Acura NSX vs Honda NSX ??? Same identical cars just different names depending on where they are sold?

Yes, Kia's domestic cars have long had alpha-numeric names for their North American sold counterparts.

K3=Forte
K5=Optima (renamed to K5 in North America)
K7=Cadenza
K8=New Cadenza
K9=K900

Most automakers do this...

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Yes, Kia's domestic cars have long had alpha-numeric names for their North American sold counterparts.

K3=Forte
K5=Optima (renamed to K5 in North America)
K7=Cadenza
K8=New Cadenza
K9=K900

Most automakers do this...

Cool beans! Learning something new each day!

 

[YEH]

K9 and K900... so like Acura NSX vs Honda NSX ??? Same identical cars just different names depending on where they are sold?

Well, not quite - as with the NSX, it's the brand name and not the model name that changed (as Acura doesn't exist in Japan, Europe, etc.).

Same thing for any Infiniti models sold in Japan and Lexus until 2005 (sold as Toyotas; the RX was still sold as the Toyota Harrier until 2010).

Also, not quite the difference in name as compared the the Forte, which is called the Cerato in other markets and now the K5 in Korea.

Kia just added 2 00's to K9, since K9 has a certain connotation here.

Even tho the Cadenza was discontinued in NA, there's a reason why Kia went ahead with the successor to the Cadenza/K7, the K8.

Last month, the K8 did 6k in sales in Korea.

That's around double for what the Stinger will likely sell for the year in Korea.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Well, not quite - as with the NSX, it's the brand name and not the model name that changed (as Acura doesn't exist in Japan, Europe, etc.).

Same thing for any Infiniti models sold in Japan and Lexus until 2005 (sold as Toyotas; the RX was still sold as the Toyota Harrier until 2010).

Also, not quite the difference in name as compared the the Forte, which is called the Cerato in other markets and now the K5 in Korea.

Kia just added 2 00's to K9, since K9 has a certain connotation here.

Even tho the Cadenza was discontinued in NA, there's a reason why Kia went ahead with the successor to the Cadenza/K7, the K8.

Last month, the K8 did 6k in sales in Korea.

That's around double for what the Stinger will likely sell for the year in Korea.

Ah okay! Understood!

That's crazy impressive for the K8!!