Ride Comfort: GT vs GT1/GT2

I'm either in comfort or custom 95% of the time - custom settings are engine/transmission sport, engine noise normal, and all else comfort, so no diff in the suspension settings.

However, I personally feel a difference when I'm is port mode. It's subtle, but it's there.
 
I'm either in comfort or custom 95% of the time - custom settings are engine/transmission sport, engine noise normal, and all else comfort, so no diff in the suspension settings.

However, I personally feel a difference when I'm is port mode. It's subtle, but it's there.

I use Custom. If I need Sport mode, I twist the little silver dial as needed. If you customize to Sport for engine/transmission, you're hanging in higher gears longer and using more fuel that you don't always need to burn (although I love the accelerator re-mapping feel.) I posted this elsewhere, but I just returned two days ago from a run down I-49 and I-40 and another 40 miles or so on a twisty, hilly Ozark mountain road in Custom mode running 75mph on the interstates and the mpg readout on the dash was 28.3 mpg. Couldn't believe it. Car only has 3K miles on it.
 
I use Custom. If I need Sport mode, I twist the little silver dial as needed. If you customize to Sport for engine/transmission, you're hanging in higher gears longer and using more fuel that you don't always need to burn (although I love the accelerator re-mapping feel.) I posted this elsewhere, but I just returned two days ago from a run down I-49 and I-40 and another 40 miles or so on a twisty, hilly Ozark mountain road in Custom mode running 75mph on the interstates and the mpg readout on the dash was 28.3 mpg. Couldn't believe it. Car only has 3K miles on it.

I'm going to be taking the Stinger on a long road trip. I expect I'll be getting close to 30mpg. During my initial tests, I was getting 26.5mpg combined, so I think I got a "good" engine. Each engine will vary in terms of MPG, but when I saw the combined number higher than the listed highway rating, I figured 30mpg was a reasonable expectation. The bulk of my driving will be at 80mph (I-84 Utah, I-80 Nevada). With the low drag coefficient of the car, peak mileage should be in the 70's to 80's. Given the weight of the car, it's going to suck up most fuel getting that 4,000 pound behemoth moving, so being very gentle accelerating from a stop should save a lot of fuel (and I suspect my light foot from a stop is what was aiding in the high mpg). Of course, running it in manual and enjoying the sounds of the engine tanks the MPG. She sure does sound purty revving to 3,000RPM. As far as sportiness of driving, I don't see any reason to use "sport" for transmission, just leave it in "comfort" and flip the stick to manual and rev it as you please (unless you have a GT2, in which case, you have to use "sport").

Edit: I forgot the tires were at 54psi during my initial driving, which would result in better MPG. We'll see what it is at correct spec. However, I'll probably bump them to 38F/40R or so, maybe higher, as I'll be doing long distance driving in a hot climate, at 80+mph. With my Saab, the recommended pressure was 35 under 100mph and 40 over 100mph. In the Stinger manual, it only suggest a 2psi bump for 100mph. Strange. I usually set my Saab at 38psi for long distance drives, to give them a bit of buffer for the added heat. 38F/40R might be too conservative for Nevada, not sure.
 
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Similar story here. My tire pressure from dealership was at 58 PSI all around. Lowered them to SPEC based on driver door panel sticker.

Over-inflation is standard procedure to avoid flat spots during shipping and storage pre-sale. Any good dealer will put them at the recommended pressure during the pre-delivery prep.
 
Hey guys! I'm running a 18 gt limited (gt2). I've noticed that I feel every bump in the road and small micro bumps. I'm running in either eco or normal and could feel and hear the wheels. Not even sure if this is normal. I keep reading everyone having such a smooth ride but I am not. I have the summer 19s on and wheel pressure is set to standard, front 38 and 36 in the rear. Also when I go over bumps, potholes or small cracks the steering wheel sort of shifts direction and the car shifts. It's like it's not grounded or it missed a step? Kind of odd. I'm comparing my ride comfort to a 2018 camry car which is non adaptive sports tuned suspension and I feel like that is more comfortable and steers better. Not sure if I should bring it in to have it checked to see if anything wrong or if it's even normal?
 
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Hey guys! I'm running a 18 gt limited (gt2). I've noticed that I feel every bump in the road and small micro bumps. I'm running in either eco or normal and could feel and hear the wheels. Not even sure if this is normal. I keep reading everyone having such a smooth ride but I am not. I have the summer 19s on and wheel pressure is set to standard, front 38 and 36 in the rear. Also when I go over bumps, potholes or small cracks the steering wheel sort of shifts direction and the car shifts. It's like it's not grounded or it missed a step? Kind of odd. I'm comparing my ride comfort to a 2018 camry car which is non adaptive sports tuned suspension and I feel like that is more comfortable and steers better. Not sure if I should bring it in to have it checked to see if anything wrong or if it's even normal?

My Australian GT 3.3 with adaptive suspension (not sure how that compares to your model) did exactly the same thing and that's why I sold it. The ride issue, the rear end wiggle as well as the not so smooth gear changes eventually became too much.

Yes there are plenty of owners who love their Stinger and that is great for them but on the flip side there have been quite a few owners that have queried issues that they feel shouldn't happen and lessens their liking of the car.

I guess it comes down to everyone has their own opinion on what the car should and shouldn't do and whether it's a keeper or not
 
Hey guys! I'm running a 18 gt limited (gt2). I've noticed that I feel every bump in the road and small micro bumps. I'm running in either eco or normal and could feel and hear the wheels. Not even sure if this is normal. I keep reading everyone having such a smooth ride but I am not. I have the summer 19s on and wheel pressure is set to standard, front 38 and 36 in the rear. Also when I go over bumps, potholes or small cracks the steering wheel sort of shifts direction and the car shifts. It's like it's not grounded or it missed a step? Kind of odd. I'm comparing my ride comfort to a 2018 camry car which is non adaptive sports tuned suspension and I feel like that is more comfortable and steers better. Not sure if I should bring it in to have it checked to see if anything wrong or if it's even normal?
IMO there must be something wrong as that’s not how the adaptive suspension on the GT2 feels. What you describe is similar to when Kia did a poor new car inspection and the tires were left at 50+ psi, but if you checked and they are at the recommended 36F/34R then someone is wrong with the adaptive suspension.

In Sport mode the car feels taught and rebound is quicker keeping the car planted, but minor road imperfections and bumps are still barey felt. On comfort mode the ride is very smooth even over some of the roughest terrain. It’s not quite Cadillac or in your case Camry soft but should absorb 90% of all road imperfections with ease.

I’ve received many compliments from a variety of people on how smooth the ride is, and a couple even compared it to their Lexus 460L & BMW 750i.

Our Stinger is not a hard core sports car, it’s built as a luxury GT and one of those many qualities is a smooth comfortable ride due to the large wheelbase & soft suspension. If anything, some people put lowering springs and low profile tires to attempt to feel more of the road, but even they say the Stinger still feels comfortable & on the soft side over bumps etc.

I agree everyone’s perspective is different and what you came from previously makes a difference, but I’ve had a variety of sporty cars and my GT2 rides nothing like any of them. Even coming from a comfortable family sedan like the Optima it’s similar and about as smooth on comfort mode.

So I’d say you must have some issue woth your suspension/tires because what you describe is NOT how the GT2 ride feels, period. Hope that helps and good luck getting it resolved.:thumbup:
 
IMO there must be something wrong as that’s not how the adaptive suspension on the GT2 feels. What you describe is similar to when Kia did a poor new car inspection and the tires were left at 50+ psi, but if you checked and they are at the recommended 36F/34R then someone is wrong with the adaptive suspension.

In Sport mode the car feels taught and rebound is quicker keeping the car planted, but minor road imperfections and bumps are still barey felt. On comfort mode the ride is very smooth even over some of the roughest terrain. It’s not quite Cadillac or in your case Camry soft but should absorb 90% of all road imperfections with ease.

I’ve received many compliments from a variety of people on how smooth the ride is, and a couple even compared it to their Lexus 460L & BMW 750i.

Our Stinger is not a hard core sports car, it’s built as a luxury GT and one of those many qualities is a smooth comfortable ride due to the large wheelbase & soft suspension. If anything, some people put lowering springs and low profile tires to attempt to feel more of the road, but even they say the Stinger still feels comfortable & on the soft side over bumps etc.

I agree everyone’s perspective is different and what you came from previously makes a difference, but I’ve had a variety of sporty cars and my GT2 rides nothing like any of them. Even coming from a comfortable family sedan like the Optima it’s similar and about as smooth on comfort mode.

So I’d say you must have some issue woth your suspension/tires because what you describe is NOT how the GT2 ride feels, period. Hope that helps and good luck getting it resolved.:thumbup:

I literally thought about that. It should ride smooth in comfort and not bad. My brother has an evo 10 and it rides better than my stinger. When in sport and I corner off ramps, it feels like the car will go out of control. I mean the system diagnostics app show no issue. I really don't know what I can tell the dealership to look at. I told them how it rides and the service manager said there was nothing wrong with it. I'm thinking they dont really want to look at it since they are a small dealership.

I had winters on and they were 18inches, it would essentially ride the same so maybe it's not the tires but the suspension itself as you say.
 
My Australian GT 3.3 with adaptive suspension (not sure how that compares to your model) did exactly the same thing and that's why I sold it. The ride issue, the rear end wiggle as well as the not so smooth gear changes eventually became too much.

Yes there are plenty of owners who love their Stinger and that is great for them but on the flip side there have been quite a few owners that have queried issues that they feel shouldn't happen and lessens their liking of the car.

I guess it comes down to everyone has their own opinion on what the car should and shouldn't do and whether it's a keeper or not

Sorry to read that. You probably had something similar to what I am experiencing now. Maybe the vehicle had problems that didn't show. If you dont mind me asking, what did you end up moving to?
 
Hey guys! I'm running a 18 gt limited (gt2). I've noticed that I feel every bump in the road and small micro bumps. I'm running in either eco or normal and could feel and hear the wheels. Not even sure if this is normal. I keep reading everyone having such a smooth ride but I am not. I have the summer 19s on and wheel pressure is set to standard, front 38 and 36 in the rear. Also when I go over bumps, potholes or small cracks the steering wheel sort of shifts direction and the car shifts. It's like it's not grounded or it missed a step? Kind of odd. I'm comparing my ride comfort to a 2018 camry car which is non adaptive sports tuned suspension and I feel like that is more comfortable and steers better. Not sure if I should bring it in to have it checked to see if anything wrong or if it's even normal?
Frustrating! I read last year of a couple other complaints about this. Did I read about the solution being a "reflash" of the electronically monitored suspension? Something like a complete reset of the programming (logic?). This electronic crapola has worsened diagnosis for everyone.
 
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Frustrating! I read last year of a couple other complaints about this. Did I read about the solution being a "reflash" of the electronically monitored suspension? Something like a complete reset of the programming (logic?). This electronic crapola has worsened diagnosis for everyone.

It is. It kind of shines as to where quality comes into play for brands lol. But I love the car, I just wish mine lives it up. Are you saying that the solution was to have the system reprogrammed but it had caused even more problems?
 
It is. It kind of shines as to where quality comes into play for brands lol. But I love the car, I just wish mine lives it up. Are you saying that the solution was to have the system reprogrammed but it had caused even more problems?
There wasn't a final answer to that. I didn't read anymore complaints about it, so either they were resolved by the reflash, or the driver adapted to the different ride, or they dumped the Stinger and went away? I wish I could remember better: but ONE particular complaint (I want to say nearly a year ago) observed that the entire car felt hard as a board, like the suspension was seized up rock hard or something. And since I forgot all about it till now, I think their problem was solved by a reflash. I want to say that they had to get Kia Corp engaged, because the dealer wasn't getting anywhere; a tech was sent out who knew what to look for and what to reprogram. For sure, take this to the 855.542.7733 "Premium Team". (the voice says it is "The Kia Client Specialist Line" - don't know where "Premium Team" got coined).
 
There wasn't a final answer to that. I didn't read anymore complaints about it, so either they were resolved by the reflash, or the driver adapted to the different ride, or they dumped the Stinger and went away? I wish I could remember better: but ONE particular complaint (I want to say nearly a year ago) observed that the entire car felt hard as a board, like the suspension was seized up rock hard or something. And since I forgot all about it till now, I think their problem was solved by a reflash. I want to say that they had to get Kia Corp engaged, because the dealer wasn't getting anywhere; a tech was sent out who knew what to look for and what to reprogram. For sure, take this to the 855.542.7733 "Premium Team". (the voice says it is "The Kia Client Specialist Line" - don't know where "Premium Team" got coined).


I see. I'll have them check it out. Unfortunately we Canadian stinger owners do not get a premium line. I'll have to try their regular line and see if anything can be done if they don't push forward. I doubt they'll even let me test drive a stinger on the lot to compare. But thank you for the information.
 
Sorry to read that. You probably had something similar to what I am experiencing now. Maybe the vehicle had problems that didn't show. If you dont mind me asking, what did you end up moving to?

At the risk of getting whipped by this forum's members I went in a completely different direction and ordered a Toyota Hybrid RAV4.

Hope you resolve your issues successfully
 
Hey guys! I'm running a 18 gt limited (gt2). I've noticed that I feel every bump in the road and small micro bumps. I'm running in either eco or normal and could feel and hear the wheels. Not even sure if this is normal. I keep reading everyone having such a smooth ride but I am not. I have the summer 19s on and wheel pressure is set to standard, front 38 and 36 in the rear. Also when I go over bumps, potholes or small cracks the steering wheel sort of shifts direction and the car shifts. It's like it's not grounded or it missed a step? Kind of odd. I'm comparing my ride comfort to a 2018 camry car which is non adaptive sports tuned suspension and I feel like that is more comfortable and steers better. Not sure if I should bring it in to have it checked to see if anything wrong or if it's even normal?


Contrary to the advice you have received here, I doubt anything is wrong with your Stinger or its Adaptive suspension system. I have written before about the Stingers poorly calibrated suspension. I believe that is what you are experiencing, made conspicuously worse by the fact that you also have a smooth riding Camry SE in your household to compare it to. The Stingers ride quality is highly dependent on road surface and texture. I too compared the Stinger back to back with a 2018 Camry rental. The Camry had a smooth, silky, luxurious quality to the way it went over the road. The body stayed relatively flat over good and poor surface with a surprising lack of bounce, pitch, or float.

The Stinger in contrast allows a constant stream of road texture and grain feel to be transmitted into the cabin and to a lesser degree, to the steering wheel. Actual bumps are handled decently, but with too much up/down motion of the front and rear suspensions.

It’s just the way the Adaptive suspension is tuned in the Stinger.
The people who feel the Stinger is “super smooth” aren’t lying though. On the right surfaces, the Stinger glides smoothly down the road too. But different cities have different road qualities, explaining why some people don’t experience much of the smooth ride. In addition, everyone has different expectations of ride quality. You, having a new Camry SE, have the fortune of knowing what a well tuned suspension feels like. That Camry’s ride is exceptionally solid, flat, well damped, and isolated from ride harshness and motion.

I have driven numerous Stinger GT2 RWD and all of them feel the same.
They bounce over dips and bumps. They transmit too many small bumps/textures.
They lack coordination between the front and rear suspensions (you feel the front bouncing and rear bouncing independently, rather than the car moving flatly as a whole). On the upside, they all have good resistance to brake dive and squat. They all have relatively quick steering. They all superb levels of grip.
It’s just the nature of the Stinger.

The handling numbers and specs are top notch, but they are achieved with a lack of refinement in relation to vehicles with better sorted suspension systems.

Before you feel like your Stinger is broken, go take a test drive of at least one other at your local dealership. It will likely ride just like yours. Different people judge ride quality by different metrics. The Stinger GT2 ride quality is a mixed bag. The Stinger GT2 is both too firm and too soft. If you didn’t have the Camry to compare it to, it might be less obvious.

In the end, let’s hope Kia refines the suspension tuning further in the next generation of Stinger.
 
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The handling numbers and specs are top notch, but they are achieved with a lack of refinement in relation to vehicles with better sorted suspension systems. ...Different people judge ride quality by different metrics. The Stinger GT2 ride quality is a mixed bag. The Stinger GT2 is both too firm and too soft. If you didn’t have the Camry to compare it to, it might be less obvious.

In the end, let’s hope Kia refines the suspension tuning further in the next generation of Stinger.
Your qualifications redeem your observations. Ride "expectation" is the single factor governing the subjective judgment of "ride quality".

I've never ridden in "luxury" vehicles, or those tuned to compete with them. I'm a peasant, barely above Conestoga wagon ride quality in my expectations.

What impressed me reading about the Stinger was the development toward a compromise between performance and ride quality/luxury. The Stinger doesn't need more "refinement": it's exactly where Biermann et al. the designers/engineers meant it to be.

Good roads are prized. Shitty roads are avoided wherever possible. And on good roads the Stinger will be quiet, smooth and stable, and fast. It is close to ideal as a compromise. Any further "refinement" would compromise that compromise toward turning the ride into a "boat": smooth and quiet and uncommunicative, and ultimately an ill handling beast by comparison.
 
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Your qualifications redeem your observations. Ride "expectation" is the single factor governing the subjective judgment of "ride quality".

I've never ridden in "luxury" vehicles, or those tuned to compete with them. I'm a peasant, barely above Conestoga wagon ride quality in my expectations.

What impressed me reading about the Stinger was the development toward a compromise between performance and ride quality/luxury. The Stinger doesn't need more "refinement": it's exactly where Biermann et al. the designers/engineers meant it to be.

Good roads are prized. Shitty roads are avoided wherever possible. And on good roads the Stinger will be quiet, smooth and stable, and fast. It is close to ideal as a compromise. Any further "refinement" would compromise that compromise toward turning the ride into a "boat": smooth and quiet and uncommunicative, and ultimately an ill handling beast by comparison.

You are mistaken in the belief that further refining the Stingers ride would reduce its handling capability. That simply is not true. Specifically, Kia has lots of room to refine the shock and spring rates, whilst improving ride and handling simultaneously.

I am NOT speculating here. My car currently sits on KWv3 coilovers that ride AND handle better than the OEM Kia setup. Prior to that, I ran HSD coilovers, they too rode/handled better than stock. Hell, many of the Eibach spring/sway users report the car rides and handles better than stock too.

One thing you are correct about, is that the OEM ride handling mix is exactly what Beirmann wanted it to be. And it is. But unfortunately, that calibration has left the Stinger with poor vertical body control front and rear, despite outstanding levels of grip being present.

You keep mentioning how you haven't driven "other luxury cars, etc." My post was in reference to the poster with the Camry SE as it does have a wonderfully compliant, stable, smooth, and flat riding suspension. I've compared the two cars (Stinger and Camry SE) back to back and found exactly what the original poster found. The Stingers ride quality is simply less refined in comparison.

Again, Kia has room for improvement here. It is "good enough", for you... I get that, but people that have been exposed to better calibrated suspensions are surely not out of line for desiring a better calibration in the Stinger too.
 
Wondering for those that have a gt1/gt2 what setting are you driving with and are you happy with the daily drive comfort from the adaptive suspension? I have a Panthera Metal GT w/ the safety tech package. Drove the car for roughly 2 weeks and just recently found out that the suspension in the GT is not adjustable. Was told by the sales rep that the base GT does have different modes to select and I assumed that includes the suspension. Only found out after I noticed that switching from comfort to sport I did not feel much difference with the suspension and when I went to the custom setting I realized there is no setting for the suspension. After living with the car for about 2 weeks, I found the ride quality to be a bit harsh. I had several cars previously - Golf GTI Mk 6, S4 B8.5, Lexus GS base and the Stinger GT feels the most harsh. Reminds me alittle of the GTI, but I think the GTI is more forgiving, or maybe I was just younger then. Now with 2 kids and family, I think I prefer a better dampened car for daily commute. I live in Los Angeles with pretty poor road condition so that may have made things worst. Contemplating of even trading in the GT at some point and getting the GT1 if the comfort mode in the GT1/GT2 is softer than the current GT set up. Will probably have to get a test drive later but I think usually it's hard to get a feel until you have the car for some time. I only test drove the GT during the dealer visit.
It would seem to me that have never driven a true sports car. I have owned a Lotus Esprit, a 427 CU L88 Corvette and even an MGB. If you do not want a harsh ride buy some p*ssy car. This is a performance automobile. Harsher rides go with that moniker.
 
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