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Johnnyfive

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Hey all,
I wanted to share a positive experience I have had with the premium customer service we get with the Stinger. Two people with the exact same situation may not get the same results, but I wanted to share mine as a lot of times those with positive experiences won't share it. This is a bit of a read, so hang in with me. TL;DR at the bottom.

The Background
When I went to pick my car to get the PPF and ceramic applied, my installer pointed out some deep scratches in the roof glass. Deep enough to catch my fingernail in easily. There were several of them parallel to each other, and you could see them continue on either side of the roof. They didn't connect all the way across, but you could definitely see the connection. You had to be at the right angle to catch them, and I certainly had not noticed them before. The car had hardly been driven since I picked it up from the dealer a few days before I dropped it off at the installer, and I hadn't done anything that would have caused such scratches. He swore up and down that he didn't do it, and walked me around the shop to illustrate that there was really no tool he used that could have done it.

When I took the car to the dealer to get my license plates and take care of the trunk rattle, I asked them to take a look at them to see if anything could be done, and told them that my installer suggested these had come from some strapping or something that had been done during transport. The dealer, of course, swore up and down that they were not there when they sold it to me.

Now I did walk around the car for a bit when I went to buy it, but I didn't do a really close inspection so this is partially on me for sure. I just couldn't see how there would have been any other way for those scratches to have occurred.

Initial fail to achieve resolution
So now I am stuck between two parties who say they didn't do it, and I knew I hadn't done it. I asked if there was some way to buff them out. The answer, unsurprisingly, was no. So then I started looking into replacement. The PPF installer would not do anything, as they swore there was no way they did it. The service department of the dealer said the same thing. My dealer's service manager tried to help me out by cutting the cost as far as they could (reducing labor costs), but even then it was going to be around $1200 for parts and labor. The parts alone were nearly $1000. That's right. Replacing the glass required replacing the seals and some attached mechanical parts.

Enter Kia Premium Customer Service
It was at this point that I got called by KPCS. I did not call them. I did not ask my dealer to work with them. They called me. He knew what my problem was. He knew the details behind what had been discussed so far. Throughout the rest of the experience, he worked with me. Not some random service manager. He reached out to the dealer and confirmed there was nothing more they were willing/able to do. He then reached out to the regional manager to see if they would step in. The answer there was also no. At this point I was fairly resigned to having these scratches. I sure wasn't going to pay $1200. The last resort was a decision board, where the case would be finally decided. I didn't have much hope. I told my rep I wasn't looking for a freebie since I couldn't prove who did it. I was just hoping for some help in some way. He said it should take a few weeks to hear back for sure. Sure enough, between 1 and 2 weeks later, he called me back. The offer was to use the warranty price for the parts, which only Kia could decide to do (not the dealer), and that they would pay half the costs of the parts and labor. I was stunned. I had expected a "so sorry but no". I got the roof replaced last week.

Throughout the whole experience, the KPCS rep was courteous, friendly, and really seemed to be working to get the best he could for me.

TL;DR
Scratches in my glass roof of unknown origin could not be repaired. Kia Premium Customer Service stepped in to investigate all the options, and ultimately lowered the parts cost and split the total cost with me.
 
Hmmm....strapping during shipping? Doesn't sound like something I've ever seen before. Glad it sort-of worked out. Scratches on glass can work into cracks. But the Kia people probably also know how the cars are packaged for the boat ride over and maybe they just decided to be nice. It will be interesting to see if anyone else has similar scratches.

I spent the entire day today find-detailing my car. The dealer did a pretty good job of cleaning the car up, but there were some spots on the top that could have come from the technician testing the washer fluid. I think the adjust them a bit high so they work "at speed." Other than that, my car was perfect. The front dark chrome had some dark spots on it that I couldn't remove with detail spray and elbow grease so I use a fine clay bar and got rid of those and then waxed the chrome to prevent water spots. I suspect it was cosmoline of some sort. I'm going to have to watch that chrome carefully because it does look vulnerable to bugs and such. No paint defects anywhere. Entire car is waxed and ready for the next disaster including the wheels.
 
Now that was unexpected..

Acknowledgement by the mothership that their dealer sales and service network is, well, lacking?
 
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I read an article recently about moonroofs spontaneously exploding (happens on various makes and models but the article referenced Hyundai specifically). I have a feeling there is a connection between it and deeply scratched moonroofs during shipping.
 
Yet another reason I am so glad I ordered my GT without that pesky sunroof. For every plus of having a sun roof I can think of 4 minuses.
 
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There is a reason Stingers have a dedicated customer support line, they want their customers to be happy. When you are not, call them and tell them the situation.

I just got remote start installed as a resolution to an issue I was having.
 
Yet another reason I am so glad I ordered my GT without that pesky sunroof. For every plus of having a sun roof I can think of 4 minuses.

This could have happened with any glass to be honest. The sunroof itself I have had zero problems with.
 
There is a reason Stingers have a dedicated customer support line, they want their customers to be happy. When you are not, call them and tell them the situation.

I just got remote start installed as a resolution to an issue I was having.

unfortunately it seems this service isn't extended to all countries
 
I had similar strapping marks on my paint across the roof. They appeared to be from 1.5 to 2 inch straps. They were not deep enough to scratch the glass, but you could see them in the paint at certain angles. I didn't see them until I brought the car home. Luckily they polished out at the detailer.
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
The only thing I found on my GT2 was some very difficult to remove cosmoline-like spots on the dark chrome. Nothing on the glass top on mine.
 

TL;DR

Scratches in my glass roof of unknown origin could not be repaired. Kia Premium Customer Service stepped in to investigate all the options, and ultimately lowered the parts cost and split the total cost with me.

I had similar strapping marks on my paint across the roof. They appeared to be from 1.5 to 2 inch straps. They were not deep enough to scratch the glass, but you could see them in the paint at certain angles. I didn't see them until I brought the car home. Luckily they polished out at the detailer.

@Johnnyfive and @SonomaGT, do you know how your cars were shipped from the port to your dealers? I'm wondering if maybe straps were used to hold down your Stingers during ground transport. Normally chains are used to secure vehicles by the chassis, but maybe straps were used for some reason. If so, KIA should have a serious conversation with their ground shipping company!
 
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International Auto Shipping | How to Ship Cars Overseas - Autoshipping.com

Hope this helps explain the process. I found this article - see shipping cars in containers section.
Fairly sure autos are shipped in containers from Korea to US and strapped down and wedged with wood in front/back to prevent rolling. Given the winter seas/storms, I'm sure there was rocking on the vessal that may have resulted in the straps rubbing on the cars- even with protection. This damage didn't occur from the port to the dealer.
 
So I complained to the Kia Premium Consumer Affairs folk about the underseat subwoofers sucking and being disappointed (btw, they now sound pretty good after 3500 miles). They then gave me 3 years of free oil changes, filter changes, and tire rotations without me even asking for anything. I didn’t believe it until I got the contract in the mail...
 
International Auto Shipping | How to Ship Cars Overseas - Autoshipping.com

Hope this helps explain the process. I found this article - see shipping cars in containers section.
Fairly sure autos are shipped in containers from Korea to US and strapped down and wedged with wood in front/back to prevent rolling. Given the winter seas/storms, I'm sure there was rocking on the vessal that may have resulted in the straps rubbing on the cars- even with protection. This damage didn't occur from the port to the dealer.

@SonomaGT, the link you posted describes how consumers can have their cars shipped overseas in containers - individually.

However, new vehicles are shipped differently. Car manufacturers actually use specialized ships to transport thousands of cars at a time. The following article describes a massive Toyota ship that can carry up to an amazing 8,500 vehicles at once: Around the World With 5,500 Cars

The article states that each vehicle is "lashed snugly to the steel floor of a cargo deck, just inches from its neighbor".

This is consistent with what my dealer told me about the protective coating that KIA put on the engine of my Stinger - namely that the coating is designed to combat corrosion from the salt air during the boat ride from Korea. Cars in sealed shipping containers wouldn't be exposed to salt air nearly as much and therefore wouldn't need the anti-corrosion protection.

Unfortunately, some contract trucking companies (and their drivers) are more concerned about expediency than properly protecting the cargo they're being paid to deliver.

To really get to the bottom of this I wouldn't assume that the only possibility for the damage occurring was during overseas shipping. That may be a slight possibility, but I would place greater odds that something happened on-shore.

EDIT Here's a photo of some Optima's rolling off a ship in port:
Optimas off ship.webp
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Glad to know there is such a service for us.
 
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@SonomaGT, the link you posted describes how consumers can have their cars shipped overseas in containers - individually.

However, new vehicles are shipped differently. Car manufacturers actually use specialized ships to transport thousands of cars at a time. The following article describes a massive Toyota ship that can carry up to an amazing 8,500 vehicles at once: Around the World With 5,500 Cars

The article states that each vehicle is "lashed snugly to the steel floor of a cargo deck, just inches from its neighbor".

This is consistent with what my dealer told me about the protective coating that KIA put on the engine of my Stinger - namely that the coating is designed to combat corrosion from the salt air during the boat ride from Korea. Cars in sealed shipping containers wouldn't be exposed to salt air nearly as much and therefore wouldn't need the anti-corrosion protection.

Unfortunately, some contract trucking companies (and their drivers) are more concerned about expediency than properly protecting the cargo they're being paid to deliver.

To really get to the bottom of this I wouldn't assume that the only possibility for the damage occurring was during overseas shipping. That may be a slight possibility, but I would place greater odds that something happened on-shore.

EDIT Here's a photo of some Optima's rolling off a ship in port:
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Glad to know there is such a service for us.
Thank you! This is great information.
@SonomaGT, the link you posted describes how consumers can have their cars shipped overseas in containers - individually.

However, new vehicles are shipped differently. Car manufacturers actually use specialized ships to transport thousands of cars at a time. The following article describes a massive Toyota ship that can carry up to an amazing 8,500 vehicles at once: Around the World With 5,500 Cars

The article states that each vehicle is "lashed snugly to the steel floor of a cargo deck, just inches from its neighbor".

This is consistent with what my dealer told me about the protective coating that KIA put on the engine of my Stinger - namely that the coating is designed to combat corrosion from the salt air during the boat ride from Korea. Cars in sealed shipping containers wouldn't be exposed to salt air nearly as much and therefore wouldn't need the anti-corrosion protection.

Unfortunately, some contract trucking companies (and their drivers) are more concerned about expediency than properly protecting the cargo they're being paid to deliver.

To really get to the bottom of this I wouldn't assume that the only possibility for the damage occurring was during overseas shipping. That may be a slight possibility, but I would place greater odds that something happened on-shore.

EDIT Here's a photo of some Optima's rolling off a ship in port:
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Interesting information - Cheers everyone!
 
There is a reason Stingers have a dedicated customer support line, they want their customers to be happy. When you are not, call them and tell them the situation.

I just got remote start installed as a resolution to an issue I was having.
How does one find this dedicated Stinger customer support line?
 
You should have gotten some info on it when you took delivery and then you’ll get a package from Kia with a card you can keep in the car.

The number is ‭+1 (855) 454-2847‬
 
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