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Hello im new here got my stinger last april I got install ark mid pipe and full exhaust ingen for intake
Car run perfectly but today i was following an slower car then pass it arround 80 engine light show up
Run the code and p0234 overboost
The temperature it is here -30 c
Any suggestions thanks
 
Weather conditions, engine not sufficiently warmed up... something got stuck (or froze shut?)

P0234 Turbocharger / Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition Code

This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a generic powertrain code. It is considered generic because it applies to all makes and models of vehicles (1996-newer), although specific repair steps may be slightly different depending on the model. Trouble code P0234 indicates the powertrain control module (PCM) senses a dangerously high boost pressure from the engine's forced induction system. Levels of boost in excess of recommended levels can compromise the structural integrity of the engine.

Normally, an engine relies on the vacuum produced by the downward movement of the piston to draw the air and fuel charge into the engine. A supercharger or turbocharger is an air compressor used to increase the air and fuel charge entering the engine. This is known as "forced induction" which allows a much smaller fuel-efficient engine to create the power normally available with a much larger engine. The mechanical apparatus used in forced induction is divided into three categories, positive displacement (roots style), centrifugal and turbo. The roots style and centrifugal chargers are belt driven while the turbo relies on pressure from the exhaust to operate. A roots or positive displacement supercharger is positioned on the top of the intake. A centrifugal looks much like a rotary air conditioning compressor and is located on the driver's side front of the engine. Turbochargers are located in line with the exhaust system. As boost pressure rises, the stress on the engine increases as well. Your engine has recommended boost pressure limits to preclude the possibility of engine component failure. Code P0234 is set when these limits are breached and should be corrected as soon as possible to prevent engine or transmission damage. Turbo chargers rely on exhaust pressure to spin the turbine blades fast enough to produce air pressure greater than atmospheric. However they have an inherent lag where the exhaust pressure is insufficient to spin the turbo fast enough to create pressure. Depending on the type of unit used, the turbo needs 1700 to 2500 engine rpm before it begins to "spool up."

Turbos spin around 250,000 rpm in full boost. Boost pressure increases with engine rpm. To regulate the boost pressure and prevent overboost, a wastegate valve is installed. Most modern turbos have an internal wastegate and external actuator. There is a rod from the actuator to the wastegate on the turbo. Intake manifold air pressure passes to the top of the wastegate. As boost pressure increases it begins to exert force on the spring in the actuator that holds the wastegate valve closed. The higher the pressure rises, the more it overpowers the spring, resulting in the wastegate opening and directing exhaust gas away from the turbo blades and preventing further increase in boost. Regulation of the pressure applied to the wastegate regulates the boost levels at specific rpm. To accomplish this, the computer uses barometric or MAP sensors, engine and transmission temperature sensors, knock sensors and intake pressure sensors to determine the amount of wastegate opening necessary to deliver the best boost levels. To regulate boost levels, the computer uses either a solenoid, stepper motor or pulse modulator. By regulating the pressure to the wastegate actuator, varying degrees of boost are possible.


Potential causes for this DTC include:

In lieu of further trouble codes associated with the overboost condition it would be safe to say the problem is mechanical. The operation of the wastegate is the most probable. The wastegate is either stuck closed causing the turbo to spin higher than normal, thus causing the overboost. The rod from the wastegate actuator to the wastegate on the turbo is bent. A hose came off the wastegate or boost controller. A supply house to the boost controller or from the controller to the wastegate is clogged.
 
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Weather conditions, engine not sufficiently warmed up... something got stuck (or froze shut?)

P0234 Turbocharger / Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition Code

This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a generic powertrain code. It is considered generic because it applies to all makes and models of vehicles (1996-newer), although specific repair steps may be slightly different depending on the model. Trouble code P0234 indicates the powertrain control module (PCM) senses a dangerously high boost pressure from the engine's forced induction system. Levels of boost in excess of recommended levels can compromise the structural integrity of the engine.

Normally, an engine relies on the vacuum produced by the downward movement of the piston to draw the air and fuel charge into the engine. A supercharger or turbocharger is an air compressor used to increase the air and fuel charge entering the engine. This is known as "forced induction" which allows a much smaller fuel-efficient engine to create the power normally available with a much larger engine. The mechanical apparatus used in forced induction is divided into three categories, positive displacement (roots style), centrifugal and turbo. The roots style and centrifugal chargers are belt driven while the turbo relies on pressure from the exhaust to operate. A roots or positive displacement supercharger is positioned on the top of the intake. A centrifugal looks much like a rotary air conditioning compressor and is located on the driver's side front of the engine. Turbochargers are located in line with the exhaust system. As boost pressure rises, the stress on the engine increases as well. Your engine has recommended boost pressure limits to preclude the possibility of engine component failure. Code P0234 is set when these limits are breached and should be corrected as soon as possible to prevent engine or transmission damage. Turbo chargers rely on exhaust pressure to spin the turbine blades fast enough to produce air pressure greater than atmospheric. However they have an inherent lag where the exhaust pressure is insufficient to spin the turbo fast enough to create pressure. Depending on the type of unit used, the turbo needs 1700 to 2500 engine rpm before it begins to "spool up."

Turbos spin around 250,000 rpm in full boost. Boost pressure increases with engine rpm. To regulate the boost pressure and prevent overboost, a wastegate valve is installed. Most modern turbos have an internal wastegate and external actuator. There is a rod from the actuator to the wastegate on the turbo. Intake manifold air pressure passes to the top of the wastegate. As boost pressure increases it begins to exert force on the spring in the actuator that holds the wastegate valve closed. The higher the pressure rises, the more it overpowers the spring, resulting in the wastegate opening and directing exhaust gas away from the turbo blades and preventing further increase in boost. Regulation of the pressure applied to the wastegate regulates the boost levels at specific rpm. To accomplish this, the computer uses barometric or MAP sensors, engine and transmission temperature sensors, knock sensors and intake pressure sensors to determine the amount of wastegate opening necessary to deliver the best boost levels. To regulate boost levels, the computer uses either a solenoid, stepper motor or pulse modulator. By regulating the pressure to the wastegate actuator, varying degrees of boost are possible.


Potential causes for this DTC include:

In lieu of further trouble codes associated with the overboost condition it would be safe to say the problem is mechanical. The operation of the wastegate is the most probable. The wastegate is either stuck closed causing the turbo to spin higher than normal, thus causing the overboost. The rod from the wastegate actuator to the wastegate on the turbo is bent. A hose came off the wastegate or boost controller. A supply house to the boost controller or from the controller to the wastegate is clogged.
 
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Well that certainly isn't a lot but cold temperatures can wreak havoc on some of the weaker systems.

Do you have any sustained power loss or was it just a momentary stutter and now runs fine?
 
If the car feels as if it is running normal, I would recommend clearing the codes and reporting back if the CEL comes back again. Not the most scientific route but a start
 
Same thing happened to my 2021 Stinger this morning. I accelerated out of a stop light, I had loss of power then the check engine light came on. Same code as above, P0234 (Engine Overboost Condition). The temp was around 20 degrees F this morning when it happened.

The light is still on, I may call the dealer to have them take a look.
 
Same thing happened to my 2021 Stinger this morning. I accelerated out of a stop light, I had loss of power then the check engine light came on. Same code as above, P0234 (Engine Overboost Condition). The temp was around 20 degrees F this morning when it happened.

The light is still on, I may call the dealer to have them take a look.
My stock 2021 gt stinger with less than 3000km also just had same issue 2 times in past 3 days. First time was on starting vehicle before it move. That whole trip there was no boost available for whole trip.
 
I have the same issue yesterday my stock 2021 Stinger GT with 3000km on clock. On turning car on I got engin lite. GoFar reported P034 Code and no boost was available. Problem went away but returned 2 days later with same problem.
 
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Reading about overboosting on our cars, the 2021 year comes up a decent amount. Almost seems to be a little more sensitive than the others.

If yours is stock and it keeps overboosting/throwing a code, and doing it in warmer weather, I'd have the dealer take a look.

Mine has gone into limp mode a few more times since I posted in March, but I also have the VT Big Mouths, and aftermarket exhaust. Back in March was the only time the CEL came on throwing that code. The other 3 times or so it just went into limp mode, so turning it off and back on right away solved the problem. Still very annoying. Seems the air moves too quickly and builds too much boost with altered intake and exhaust.
 
Are you still having this problem? I'm experiencing limp mode all the time unless I run eco mode; no codes though. Which isn't terrible since I have the pedal tuner but still annoying. I'm keeping JB4 disabled.
 
I'm assuming you're asking me, so I will say I have not had this issue since May. But, that is also because it warmed up around here, and I removed my Ark secondary downpipes. I'm going to keep them off until it gets colder and see if it over-boosts again. If it does, then I may talk to the dealer about it and see if I have a wastegate issue. Shouldn't be overboosting for just VT Big Mouths and a cat-back exhaust.
 
Yea I was. Missed the quote sorry. I'm running valet map now. Should have thought of that before I guess. I'm in Flagstaff, Arizona. Elevation is high and it's hot. I was easily pumping 17 pounds of boost with the JB4 disabled going into limp mode. Only fuel around is 91 octane that's 10% E so running even map 1 timing corrections were bad. I didn't have any problems with going into LM until I installed the VT though. However, I did it right before I came out here. Just been trying to find someone with the same issues.
 
No worries. So you're experiencing overboosting/limp mode with the JB4 disabled or in valet mode?

I was under the impression, and told by others, that you should be able to correct & remove overboosting with a JB4 or other tune. Or it that only with the EWG Add-On Connectors? I'm not 100% sure.

Seems like the common factor, who have had this issue, are those driving aggressive in cold weather with mods to intake and exhaust. And I do hear more 2021 Stinger's having this issue than other years, but I never dug into a lot.
 
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With it disabled going into limp mode constantly. Map 8 (valet) is a happy medium I guess. With jb4 disabled I was getting too much boost, and running map 1 is too much boost for the octane where I'm at. It's hot, not cold, but I've looked around alot for others with same year/mods/issues and there doesn't seem to be alot out there. Your problem seemed the closest even though it was cold weather vs hot. Thanks for the info.
I was getting codes and issues pointing at the waste gates for sure, but I reset the ECU and they went away. Ran a map 1 log and timing was junk so Terry told me more E or less boost. There is no E and jb4 disabled is overboosting and going into limp mode with no codes thrown. Therefore map 8 is the answer until I get out of this place. That's the only answer IMO.
 
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No problem, wish I could help you more.

I see what you mean, and that sucks you have to run valet mode or you overboost. It's strange it's happening to you in hot weather, that might be the first I heard of that one. Hope Terry can help you more, not sure what else to do besides reaching out to him again. Good luck to you on figuring this all out, and please post back on here if you find any answers.
 
I was having problems with overboost two weeks ago. ended up getting code 0049. still don't know what fully caused the problem but I was on map 2. stepped on it a bit on second gear and this code popped up with the check engine light on also went into limp mode till the code was deleted. I deleted the code on my jb4. The engine light doesn't come on anymore, but the code is just there whenever I scan the car. not sure what to really think about all that but the car seems to be driving fine. going to remove my blow-off valve today and give them a quick inspection to see if anything is wrong with them. besides that not really sure what to look for.
 
OBDII will store old fault codes till you actually delete them manually.
 
As embarrassing as it is to admit that I didn't find it sooner; I found that the plastic fittings (throttle body and vacuum) on the CAI weren't tight. Took the hose clamps off and snugged them up. Fired it up and ran around town pretty aggressive everything seemed fine. At least I believe that was the answer.
 
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