WRXtoStingerGT
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I love blind spot detection!
New Z
- Thread starter BertBert2019GT
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And by "difficult to fix this", I mean fixing people's tendency to set their SIDE view mirrors wrong (basically as REAR view mirrors).I love blind spot detection!
But yes, I like blind spot detection, it helps.
WRXtoStingerGT
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My 94' Volvo, 98' E36, and 2014 WRX didn't have blind spot detection... on the Stinger it's awesome though!
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Wow I could have said it exactly as you described regarding how almost all of them have incorrectly adjusted side mirrors.
Nissan cooks their V6 to perfection. I've driven Q60 and that v6 spins so much nicer than the one in the Stinger.
In fact i'd give Q60 the drivetrain edge over the Stinger.
The new Supra is an experimental joke universally disapproved.
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GenesisG70
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The new z design looks bland and retro and interior looks in the cheaper side. Performance similar to the Stinger GT and price similarly as well, no practical at all. Looks like more like a sports car for a hair dresser.
Michael Hespe
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I have been seriously thinking about it. The problem is im really tall and I have never been in any Z before? From what I have been reading, the Z will be to small for me. The main reason I went with the stinger was because of my big ass. My head never touches the roof and this is the only car I have been in where the seat isn't 100% all the way back.
GenesisG70
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The biggest problem for me is the design they could have made it more manly looking its square and round design does not convey aggressive sports car vibes. More like a car for a middle aged female.
Michael Hespe
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Oh I love the design. Thats probably my favorite aspect lol.
AtomicGTL
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
They had a shit ton of time to nail the design lol Its the very least intimatidating 400 hp car/coupe
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AnalogMan
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The Nissan Z (whether the upcoming new car or the previous generation 370Z) is a very different type of car than the Stinger. The Z is a strictly 2-passenger sports car, the Stinger a 4 passenger near-luxury, performance-oriented GT sports sedan. I think they would make a very complimentary pair in the garage.
The 370Z is an ironic story. So many car enthusiasts whined about wanting a simple, old-school, affordable, pure sports car, with a naturally aspirated engine, manual transmission, and devoid of most of the cosmetic fripperies so many new cars are loaded down with. Nissan did the world of car enthusiasts a favor by continuing to sell the 370Z, and instead people whined about how it was 'old', and had an 'out of date infotainment system'.
If you're driving a real sports car, your 'infotainment' should be the feel of the car, the sound of the engine, and the pure fun of the driving experience. A colorful infotainment graphical interface shouldn't be that high on the list. If it is, you probably should look for a different kind of car.
Nissan has done the car geek world another favor by introducing a refreshed Z. I for one am glad it's based on the previous 370Z platform. So it's 'old'. So what? The real question is, is it still relevant? To that I think the answer is a resounding yes. The Z platform still has attractive and competitive weight, torsional rigidity, and basic suspension design. It might not be 'state of the art' for a pure track/race car, but realistically, how many people live on the track? For most drivers, what's relevant is how it feels on the street, not shaving tenths of a second off Nurburgring lap times. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Nissan has addressed most of the things whiners carped about. The interior is refreshed with higher quality materials. Seemingly most importantly to the complainers, the infotainment system now has a nice, big, colorful, modern screen and interface. The engine is now the turbo 3.0, I personally would prefer the previous generation N/A 3.7 for its more linear power output, but the whole world is going turbo these days for the perceived fuel mileage benefits (at least the way turbos game the EPA rating system), and it does have more power than the previous engine.
Styling is purely personal and subjective, but I think the Z's lines are smooth, svelte, and timeless. They captured the spirit of the original 240Z with a design that will probably still look good in 30 years. You can't say that about the over-wrought, contrived, somewhat distended semi-bloated BMW-in-drag Supra.
The result is a 400 hp, manual transmission, rear-drive sports car that will probably sell for around $40k (maybe low-mid $40's out the door). That, my friends, is a bargain these days.
What's the competition? The Supra 4 cylinder is even more expensive, has less power, and most importantly, doesn't have a manual transmission. The Mustang GT on paper can be had for a similar price, but only in a stripped-down version and with significantly lower build quality and reliability. The Corvette is more than double the price, and even that can't be had with a manual anymore. The BRZ/86 is a great car (I own one), but with about half the power, is in a different class.
The sports car segment has been shrinking for years as people increasingly flock in lemming-like droves to SUV/CUV boxes. Outside of Mazda and the Miata, it's hard for any manufacturer to make money with a sports car these days. We should thank Nissan, and Subaru/Toyota as well, for letting just a little passion come into the decision-making process instead of bean counters run the show, and making the Z and the BRZ/86 at all.
We are driving (no pun intended) inexorably to a soulless, bland, anodyne, boring future of battery electric boxes and autonomous transportation pods. The Z and BRZ/86 are probably the last of their kind. It's unlikely there will be new generations after these. Once the internal combustion engine, and especially small, affordable, manual transmission sports cars are gone, they won't be back. It's last call for sports cars. Appreciate and enjoy them now while we can.
The 370Z is an ironic story. So many car enthusiasts whined about wanting a simple, old-school, affordable, pure sports car, with a naturally aspirated engine, manual transmission, and devoid of most of the cosmetic fripperies so many new cars are loaded down with. Nissan did the world of car enthusiasts a favor by continuing to sell the 370Z, and instead people whined about how it was 'old', and had an 'out of date infotainment system'.
If you're driving a real sports car, your 'infotainment' should be the feel of the car, the sound of the engine, and the pure fun of the driving experience. A colorful infotainment graphical interface shouldn't be that high on the list. If it is, you probably should look for a different kind of car.
Nissan has done the car geek world another favor by introducing a refreshed Z. I for one am glad it's based on the previous 370Z platform. So it's 'old'. So what? The real question is, is it still relevant? To that I think the answer is a resounding yes. The Z platform still has attractive and competitive weight, torsional rigidity, and basic suspension design. It might not be 'state of the art' for a pure track/race car, but realistically, how many people live on the track? For most drivers, what's relevant is how it feels on the street, not shaving tenths of a second off Nurburgring lap times. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Nissan has addressed most of the things whiners carped about. The interior is refreshed with higher quality materials. Seemingly most importantly to the complainers, the infotainment system now has a nice, big, colorful, modern screen and interface. The engine is now the turbo 3.0, I personally would prefer the previous generation N/A 3.7 for its more linear power output, but the whole world is going turbo these days for the perceived fuel mileage benefits (at least the way turbos game the EPA rating system), and it does have more power than the previous engine.
Styling is purely personal and subjective, but I think the Z's lines are smooth, svelte, and timeless. They captured the spirit of the original 240Z with a design that will probably still look good in 30 years. You can't say that about the over-wrought, contrived, somewhat distended semi-bloated BMW-in-drag Supra.
The result is a 400 hp, manual transmission, rear-drive sports car that will probably sell for around $40k (maybe low-mid $40's out the door). That, my friends, is a bargain these days.
What's the competition? The Supra 4 cylinder is even more expensive, has less power, and most importantly, doesn't have a manual transmission. The Mustang GT on paper can be had for a similar price, but only in a stripped-down version and with significantly lower build quality and reliability. The Corvette is more than double the price, and even that can't be had with a manual anymore. The BRZ/86 is a great car (I own one), but with about half the power, is in a different class.
The sports car segment has been shrinking for years as people increasingly flock in lemming-like droves to SUV/CUV boxes. Outside of Mazda and the Miata, it's hard for any manufacturer to make money with a sports car these days. We should thank Nissan, and Subaru/Toyota as well, for letting just a little passion come into the decision-making process instead of bean counters run the show, and making the Z and the BRZ/86 at all.
We are driving (no pun intended) inexorably to a soulless, bland, anodyne, boring future of battery electric boxes and autonomous transportation pods. The Z and BRZ/86 are probably the last of their kind. It's unlikely there will be new generations after these. Once the internal combustion engine, and especially small, affordable, manual transmission sports cars are gone, they won't be back. It's last call for sports cars. Appreciate and enjoy them now while we can.
Maljey
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Eh, when I had my Camaro I very much appreciated the blind spot mirrors I added to it.
Yes, I adjusted the normal mirrors to the correct placement. However the bind spot mirrors gave even more security/safety. It's no different than someone driving a box van which has the additional blind spot mirrors built in from the factory.
Can you get by without the blind spot mirrors? Sure. You can get by without some fancy blind spot detection system as well.
The mirrors are a very good (and cheap) substitute when someone doesn't want to pay for a higher trim car model with the detection system built in.
Maljey
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I guarantee the new Z will smash the Stinger GT at any performance metric. It might be close at 0-60, but that will depend on the weight of the Z.
Otherwise the Stinger loses.
GenesisG70
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But the front looks dull that is undeniable and very objective a sharp design and a rounded dull design is not personal or subjective, no matter how awesome of a sports car is if the design language doesn't match the performance its a no no for car enthusiasts.
GenesisG70
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The Nismo package 0 to60 its in the 4 sec. The Z has been around for decades the Stinger for few years, they brought a dull looking semi fast sports car ND they had decades to make it right but they didn't.
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AtomicGTL
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doubtful. Itll be close but not smash in any metric.
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GenesisG70
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A square is a square a round line is round nothing subjective or nothing personal and the ne Z is square and round.
Maljey
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The Z only needed more HP to be competitive today. It's still a great platform overall. It just needed that HP bump to be more competitive with the modern pony cars, which will presumably share the same price range.
Maljey
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Haha nah bro. Get back to me when we see the new Z and Stinger GT compared on a road course.
AtomicGTL
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