New Stinger Recall

[SKStinger]

Interesting to note is that Kia decided to reduce the fuse rating to 25A to match the wire rating, vs upgrading the wire to match the 40A fuse. This thought process suggests the HECU was designed to only pull 25A max and that their wiring fix and fuse rating reduction is still ample power for the unit (we hope... the original oversizing the fuse doesn’t give me much faith in their electrical engineering department).

Pulling more than 25A will now indicate a faulty unit. I don’t foresee popping fuses or having troubles unless your HECU fails, and if it does, this recall just potentially saved you a car fire. A device that shorts or fails can draw as many amps as it likes until a fuse pops or a wire burns up. Popping fuses still sucks and shows you still have a problem. So far, 99% of us are ok but is it a ticking time bomb?

As said in the earlier posts, its way more expensive to replace units. They’d also have to apply this wiring and fuse fix too while in there. Fix wiring, let fuses pop, replace as needed.

This tells us that 99% of us folks who are just fine and haven’t popped the 40A should be fine with the fuse kit fix. I’ll be getting this done in 2 weeks and will buy a few extra 25A fuses as spares. The moment I pop that 25A I’ll request a new HECU.

Agreed. The fix does provide good peace of mind.

I’d rather do this work myself though and id like to order the kit from the Dealer. I hate that they are going to pull apart more than they have to and that someone other than me is messing with that rat nest of wires. Sure they’re liable if they mess something up but trying to trouble shoot what went wrong in that mass of wiring is something I’d rather avoid if possible.

 

[Stock_stinger]

Aha. So, you think there could be a direct cause and effect from the earlier TSB for the wiring harness. But that was only a physical flaw, nothing to do with electrical overloads burning the wires. I like my theory better: still waiting for someone who thinks that they know, to answer that question: why would a limited run of vehicles have this issue, and not before or after that limited (2019) run? What changed?

as far as i can see all the HECU uunits are quoted as 2017 production date but i highly doubt it. could have ban a bad batch or source of material

Interesting to note is that Kia decided to reduce the fuse rating to 25A to match the wire rating, vs upgrading the wire to match the 40A fuse. This thought process suggests the HECU was designed to only pull 25A max and that their wiring fix and fuse rating reduction is still ample power for the unit (we hope... the original oversizing the fuse doesn’t give me much faith in their electrical engineering department).

Pulling more than 25A will now indicate a faulty unit. I don’t foresee popping fuses or having troubles unless your HECU fails, and if it does, this recall just potentially saved you a car fire. A device that shorts or fails can draw as many amps as it likes until a fuse pops or a wire burns up. Popping fuses still sucks and shows you still have a problem. So far, 99% of us are ok but is it a ticking time bomb?

As said in the earlier posts, its way more expensive to replace units. They’d also have to apply this wiring and fuse fix too while in there. Fix wiring, let fuses pop, replace as needed.

This tells us that 99% of us folks who are just fine and haven’t popped the 40A should be fine with the fuse kit fix. I’ll be getting this done in 2 weeks and will buy a few extra 25A fuses as spares. The moment I pop that 25A I’ll request a new HECU.

bingo. they are eliminating fire hazard and waiting for the red flags to show what hecu units are in need of replacement

Agreed. The fix does provide good peace of mind.

I’d rather do this work myself though and id like to order the kit from the Dealer. I hate that they are going to pull apart more than they have to and that someone other than me is messing with that rat nest of wires. Sure they’re liable if they mess something up but trying to trouble shoot what went wrong in that mass of wiring is something I’d rather avoid if possible.

do not talk to service. go straight to the patts department and quest the part # 91KITJ525LQQK

also looks like theyll sell them here (i order there alot)

91KITJ525LQQK Genuine Kia Wiring Kit

Genuine 91KITJ525LQQK Wiring Kit fits Kia models. KiaPartsNow offers 91KITJ525LQQK for $17.78.

www.kiapartsnow.com

 

[turboAWD]

Sorry, don't have time to watch the whole video now - are you using the supplied parts, or doing your own fix, Stock_Stinger?

How will you tell Kia that the recall is done?

 

[Stock_stinger]

Sorry, don't have time to watch the whole video now - are you using the supplied parts, or doing your own fix, Stock_Stinger?

How will you tell Kia that the recall is done?

i used the actual recall kit. you link the kit with a vin when ordering (possibly not online but my way through a contact i gave my vin). then ill talk to my service manager and let him know its done. best bet is to tell your dealer (if your not good with them personally) that you had another shop do it that was closer to home or a friend

 

[SKStinger]

as far as i can see all the HECU uunits are quoted as 2017 production date but i highly doubt it. could have ban a bad batch or source of material



bingo. they are eliminating fire hazard and waiting for the red flags to show what hecu units are in need of replacement



do not talk to service. go straight to the patts department and quest the part # 91KITJ525LQQK

also looks like theyll sell them here (i order there alot)

91KITJ525LQQK Genuine Kia Wiring Kit

Genuine 91KITJ525LQQK Wiring Kit fits Kia models. KiaPartsNow offers 91KITJ525LQQK for $17.78.

www.kiapartsnow.com

Thanks. I’ll ask the parts guys. I can’t order from that website as they don’t ship to Canada.

 

[cncBilly]

Thanks. I’ll ask the parts guys. I can’t order from that website as they don’t ship to Canada.

Keep us posted pls.

 

[Cowboymarc21]

I have my recall repair appointment at the dealer this Friday. I am relieved to hear the “fix” is somewhat simple an non evasive. I had fears of sliced up wiring everywhere.

Suffice it to say, I will stress to them that I want to ensure the job is done with the utmost care.

Thanks for the excellent explanation and information

 

[Fredman]

This is about enough reason for me to buy that new portable oscilloscope I always wanted. Would love to chart data over weeks time and see what those two wires are pulling for current while 40 amp fuses are still intact - I’d do some aggressive driving and try to get all circuits in HECU to simultaneously trigger.
I think this would shine some light on things...

 

[BUZSTINGR]

Might be an idea.

 

[Fredman]

Might be an idea.

Yes if it were capable of continuously recording data over time from two separate channels. My DC amp clamp wont do that...

 

[G-782685]

The oscilloscope idea is brilliant. I guess it would be good to get a good sample of data for all driving styles and see what the results show.
Please advise if you end up doing it

 

[StingertimeNC]

so, does this HECU not really constantly running? Basically only kicks in when using ABS? if so, not using ABS would keep the wires from overheating right?

 

[Stock_stinger]

so, does this HECU not really constantly running? Basically only kicks in when using ABS? if so, not using ABS would keep the wires from overheating right?

It's always ready to go and monitoring. It's used for a bunch of stuff. Stability control, abs, launch control, auto hold and so on.

 

[StingertimeNC]

so apparently there's nothing we can do to lessen the risk until it is fixed, short of not driving it.

 

[Johnnys Stung]

so apparently there's nothing we can do to lessen the risk until it is fixed, short of not driving it.

Correct. Drive it, be mindful of any smells or the dash lighting up with traction/stability/ABS lights. You’re 99% likely to not have a problem.

 

[HDTurbo]

True, but...

 

[Johnnys Stung]

True, but...

LOL. Yes we are only aware of six, there may be more. I just called my dealer and the parts are in, getting it done next week. My dealer apparently is highest in the NY/NJ/CT ‘tri-state’ area for customer service, fingers crossed

 

[HDTurbo]

Fingers and others things crossed here, too! I do tend to side with stats, but might put a smoke detector under the hood! Mine's a 2020 and I didn't get a notice...

 

[clemson85]

I have my appointment for the recall fix on January 5th 2021. I will be fowling the thread for others that had the recall repair done this month.

 

[DS876]

I have my recall repair appointment at the dealer this Friday. I am relieved to hear the “fix” is somewhat simple an non evasive. I had fears of sliced up wiring everywhere.

Suffice it to say, I will stress to them that I want to ensure the job is done with the utmost care.

Thanks for the excellent explanation and information

Did you get a letter from Kia Canada saying the recall is a go? The only letter i got was the first one saying that a recall is in development.