MY2019 Build 2019....Supposedly

[nerdfrenzy]

Just want some thoughts on this one.

When I ordered the car last month I insisted that it was to be a MY2019 build 2019 and was assured that it would be.

I picked up my Stinger GT a week ago and only popped the bonnet today looking at how I can remove the KIA badge easily so it can be replaced with the "E" badge that I have. Under the bonnet there is a sticker saying "Built Oct 2018". It seems to me that the car isn't a 2019 build. Or is it just a sticker for the bonnet itself.

Any thoughts?

 

[DCBStingerGT]

Any thoughts?

Firstly, Welcome to our stingerforum, looks like your Stinger was Built in Oct 2018, but it's model designation is MY19, which should have the updates that the first versions like mine didn't get, like ambient interior lighting, bezel less screen and Michelin tyres. The MY19 like yours started about June to July 2018, your Stinger is not a 2019 build, unfortunately.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

I agree, your car is an MY19 but 2018 build, if you specified that at time of ordering & you have that in writing then it looks like a trip back to the dealer for a “please explain”.
Sorry you didn’t get what you ordered.

 

[Ozstung]

So yours is a My2019 just not built in 2019. Its not something that would worry me.

If you could just put your city and state location in your avatar it helps with notifications etc. Ps. Welcome.
Pss. What spec, colour and trim did you opt for?

 

[PxbVic]

I doubt that any build year 2019 cars would be here yet. The MY19 car with build date after September 2018 is the MY19 car. They arrived in September, and there hasn't been another shipment yet in 2019. I believe the next shipment will be around May but the cars will be the same. The next build where the car would change will be the MY20 in September 2019. That's just the way car companies work. There will be no difference in the car built between September 2018 to September 2019 they are all MY19.
My GT is 4 weeks old, it is an October 2018 build car but it's compliance date is Feb 2019. Compliance is when the car is taken from available company stock stored here in Australia and released to be registered. A google search for "car compliance date" will reveal all.

I don't think there is an issue with your car it's a MY19 car and that's from Sep2018 to Sep2019.

 

[Coast GT]

I doubt that any build year 2019 cars would be here yet. The MY19 car with build date after September 2018 is the MY19 car. They arrived in September, and there hasn't been another shipment yet in 2019. I believe the next shipment will be around May but the cars will be the same. The next build where the car would change will be the MY20 in September 2019. That's just the way car companies work. There will be no difference in the car built between September 2018 to September 2019 they are all MY19.
My GT is 4 weeks old, it is an October 2018 build car but it's compliance date is Feb 2019. Compliance is when the car is taken from available company stock stored here in Australia and released to be registered. A google search for "car compliance date" will reveal all.

I don't think there is an issue with your car it's a MY19 car and that's from Sep2018 to Sep2019.

Have to disagree with you slightly on the model year (MY) being from September to September. One of our former forum members got her car in July and it was an MY19, it had all the inclusions those of us who bought earlier didn’t get, specifically the ambient lighting, bezel less screen etc. As far as we could tell at the time she was the first Australian forum member to get an MY19. Can’t remember her build date, I have a feeling it was May/June. I was a bit annoyed at the time as I bought mine in the last week of June but it was an April 18 build date and I didn’t get all the good stuff. So close but yet so far.

 

[Ozstung]

Have to disagree with you slightly on the model year (MY) being from September to September. One of our former forum members got her car in July and it was an MY19, it had all the inclusions those of us who bought earlier didn’t get, specifically the ambient lighting, bezel less screen etc. As far as we could tell at the time she was the first Australian forum member to get an MY19. Can’t remember her build date, I have a feeling it was May/June. I was a bit annoyed at the time as I bought mine in the last week of June but it was an April 18 build date and I didn’t get all the good stuff. So close but yet so far.

I think hers was built June and still had the continental tyres. Pilots were fitted to vehicles from July onwards.

 

[PxbVic]

I think hers was built June and still had the continental tyres. Pilots were fitted to vehicles from July onwards.

Continental Tyres were MY18 Michelin Pilot Tyres are MY19.

 

[Coast GT]

I think hers was built June and still had the continental tyres. Pilots were fitted to vehicles from July onwards.

Yeah they told her it had pilots but when it turned up it had continentals. Tyres are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, it had the ambient lighting, bezel less screen, and the stainless steel inserts in the boot which none of the MY18 had

 

[Barple]

Continental Tyres were MY18 Michelin Pilot Tyres are MY19.

Ozstung is right in saying that there was a small number of MY19 with Continental tyres. I actually saw one sitting at a dealer just 2 weeks ago and couldn't quite understand what I was seeing because it had the bezel-less screen, but also had Continentals. I didn't investigate further and check under the build date under the bonnet though.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Build date can be really close to purchase. My18 February build, and I bought it a month later. I don't think shipment to here or there makes any difference. Built in S. Korea, shipped to Oz or the US, either way.

 

[OzStingerGT]

I doubt that any build year 2019 cars would be here yet. The MY19 car with build date after September 2018 is the MY19 car. They arrived in September, and there hasn't been another shipment yet in 2019. I believe the next shipment will be around May but the cars will be the same.

Not sure your info on shipment timing is correct. There are a number of Jan19 and Feb19 built ones available on Carsales currently...

 

[ShannonC]

@Hemz has a MY19 built this year. He picked it up just over a week ago.

 

[Sime]

Why is this build date for MY19’s so important to some people ?

 

[PxbVic]

Have to disagree with you slightly on the model year (MY) being from September to September. One of our former forum members got her car in July and it was an MY19

OK so KIA's cycle goes from July to June or whatever (I quoted typical Asian/Japanese manufacturer time lines but July/June is the same) the fact remains the same, the car build date is when the car comes off the line at KIA in South Korea. The model year is when that variant of the car is going to be sold or badged in a given market, so it sounds to me that a MY19 car could be built from July 2018 onwards to June 2019.

My point was there would not be any build 2019 cars in Australia yet. If this is what the dealer said, then the dealer was most probably wrong, remember he's a salesman and will say what is required to sell the car to you. Considering the size of the market and the number of cars that were already here from last year. There may be several shipments a year but the fact remains with any car built internationally, the time between build and actual local market sale could be as much as 6 months, because of market size and time to freights a car to that market.

Also RORO (roll on roll off) ships typically hold between 5000 and 8500 cars depending on the size of the cars, from south Korea the KIA Stinger might only represent 10% of the cargo of any given ship, considering it's a niche market car compared to say a KIA Sorento or KIA RIO, and these ships will also be carrying Hyundai cars. Given that Australian's have purchased about 2000 Stingers in a full model year MY18 (USA reports 10,000 units sold in a full model year MY18), (Yes per capita Australians by more stingers that Americans) I would think there would be 3 or 4 deliveries a year to Australia to maintain market demand but to not flood the market like Holden did with the Captiva (there are thousands of MY17 Holden Captiva's in yards un-complianced in Australia today, they are going to be uplifted to the next MY by Holden to try and clear them).

@nerdfrenzy Your car is MY2019. The date it was built is irrelevant, but I would not expect to see a built 2019 car for a month or 2 yet it's just too early in the year.

The continental tyres wore out too quickly, Michelin with the Michelin Pilot won a tender for tyres and were a better tyre for the updated KIA in terms of wear. MY19 being the first update from new in MY17 I don't think there was any change of the car from MY17 to MY18, but I think we all agree there was from MY18 to MY19 (tyres, Bi-modal exhaust option, badge design changes, interior mood lighting as standard, etc).

According to reports, the latest approved rear tyre for Australia is the 275/19-30 Aspect Ratio at no extra cost I would expect to see these on the first 2019 build cars in the market. If the reports are correct there is also a Biermann Edition coming this year, with heavy focus on springs and roll bars, other details are scant at this time. They are actively going after the Germans.

A good overview of how the industry works: https://www.motorama.com.au/blog/bu...en-build-date-compliance-date-and-model-year/

 

[PxbVic]

@Hemz has a MY19 built this year. He picked it up just over a week ago.

The sticker under the bonnet or the chassis label in the door jams will confirm that then. If this is true then the first build 2019 cars have landed in Australia. but they will still be the same as the MY19 from July 2018 onwards, with maybe only the one exception and that is the 275/19-30 rear tyres as standard.

 

[PxbVic]

Not sure your info on shipment timing is correct. There are a number of Jan19 and Feb19 built ones available on Carsales currently...

Don't rely on Carsales the build date field is free text and can be put in by the dealer. It is not authoritative like the label in the door jams. For example there is a black KIA Stinger in South Australia with a build date of July 2019. It really should be a DeLorean

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Kia-Stinger-2019/OAG-AD-16899167/?Cr=4

 

[AV8R]

Ask the insurance companies about build dates. Thats what they go by for insurance purpose. One year difference makes a different premium. To me the build date is its birthday not when the complaince plate was put on it.

 

[Coast GT]

OK so KIA's cycle goes from July to June or whatever (I quoted typical Asian/Japanese manufacturer time lines but July/June is the same) the fact remains the same, the car build date is when the car comes off the line at KIA in South Korea. The model year is when that variant of the car is going to be sold or badged in a given market, so it sounds to me that a MY19 car could be built from July 2018 onwards to June 2019.

My point was there would not be any build 2019 cars in Australia yet.

@nerdfrenzy Your car is MY2019. The date it was built is irrelevant, but I would not expect to see a built 2019 car for a month or 2 yet it's just too early in the year.

The continental tyres wore out too quickly, Michelin with the Michelin Pilot won a tender for tyres and were a better tyre for the updated KIA in terms of wear. MY19 being the first update from new in MY17 I don't think there was any change of the car from MY17 to MY18, but I think we all agree there was from MY18 to MY19 (tyres, Bi-modal exhaust option, badge design changes, interior mood lighting as standard, etc).

I’m well aware of the difference between build date and model year. It’s pretty self explanatory that build date is when it comes off the production line.

Your assertion that there’s no 2019 built cars in Australia is wrong based on actual forum members owning cars with 2019 build date.

The model year runs pretty much in line with the financial year which is partly why they have all the EOFY sales to offload old stock, see my previous post between mine & FitR6 buying in June & July respectively and getting and MY18 & MY19 respectively.

The build date is not irrelevant when it comes to resale because regardless of the MY when you try to trade a dealer will only look at when it was built. It also has an impact on insurance

As for the Continental tyres, Australia was the only market that had them fitted. Changing to the Michelin tyres just brings us in line with the rest of the world, in the same way that the inclusions in the Australian MY19 cars brings us in line with everyone else. All they did for the Australian MY19 was give us what they should’ve given us the year before that all other markets got. Just as the US MY19 is getting the 360° camera to bring them in line with everyone also. To say that the Continental tyres wear out too quickly is a bit hard to prove, sure each brand has a different reputation but all of the Australian 2018’s had the Continentals and unless I’ve missed it nobody so far has complained about their tyres wearing out. Most of the older Stinger owners on here (purchased late17/early 18) only have about 20-30,000km on their cars so you’d expect the tyres are still good.

Lastly there was no MY17. There was build date 2017, but they are all MY18, they didn’t hit the market in Australia until about October 2017. They were timed to hit after Holden stopped production of the Commodore to target the larger rwd market. There has been no badge design changes between MY18 & MY19, not sure what you’re talking about there, and the Bi-Modal exhaust has been an option from day 1, it isn’t an option exclusively to the MY19. There was supply issues with the bi-modal early on but it’s always been an option.

Hope that clears some things up.

 

[AV8R]

And... kia started building car late jan early feb of the new year and it takes a iut a month to get here on the boat.