Lease then Buyout - Contract Explanation

Is it mandatory to pay the first month's lease up front? I thought this was negotiable. The dealer is telling me otherwise via text. I was told I can roll it in with the other payments. Should I do this since I will.buyout?
The amount I owed to drive away included the first month's payment. I've never heard of that being negotiable.
Is there such a thing called a lease buyout packet from Kia?
What do you think that is? I've never heard of that. Kia puts up the buyout amount on your account online and it changes each month into the lease. Kia does not advertise/encourage doing the buyout of a lease. But they don't put up a stink about it.
 
Is the sales tax already included in the buy out quote
 
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Is the sales tax already included in the buy out quote
I remember yes, to that. Any liens or other unknown charges that you incur, Kia says that those are (of course) not included. It's in the print at the bottom of the buyout page.
 
I remember yes, to that. Any liens or other unknown charges that you incur, Kia says that those are (of course) not included. It's in the print at the bottom of the buyout page.
It’s been a huge PITA dealing with lenders on this buyout. 3 lenders were easy and one is specific for details asking about taxes and crap. I have to deal with the local dealership in my state because KIA finance is not license to do so like Florida. Now the dealership says I have to finance through them or I’d lose my warranty on the buy out. Is he bullshitting or what? Plus I still have to pay more sales tax and fees to the dealership. This has been an aggravating and worse experience that I already regret getting the Stinger.
 
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It’s been a huge PITA dealing with lenders on this buyout. 3 lenders were easy and one is specific for details asking about taxes and crap. I have to deal with the local dealership in my state because KIA finance is not license to do so like Florida. Now the dealership says I have to finance through them or I’d lose my warranty on the buy out. Is he bullshitting or what? Plus I still have to pay more sales tax and fees to the dealership. This has been an aggravating and worse experience that I already regret getting the Stinger.
Warranty part is BS, as your still the original owner.

you should not have to finance through the dealership
 
Warranty part is BS, as your still the original owner.

you should not have to finance through the dealership
I paid taxes on the lease contract as indicated in section 11 Line B. Dealership said it was not included and I have to pay another $500 in taxes and $39 tag fee. Kia Motor Finance cannot do ANYTHING at all here (spoke with 3 different reps) because they are not licensed in the state and that I have to deal with the dealership since they are doing this on KIA Motors Finance behalf.
 
State one pay state sale taxes for car in the lease
State 2 still gets taxes for home of the car in the lease but I guess is not included because
State 2 get property taxes for car leased
State 2 gets sales tax for car getting bought out in the lease buyout
State 2 get property taxes again for car getting bought in lease buyout

is this right or all wrong. That is A LOT of taxes that puts the car in very expensive territory
 
I've never read of anyone paying the fees/taxes more than twice doing buyout. Most States do not hit you twice.
 
Hi! I just leased a 21 GT2 AWD with the intent of buying it immediately per this forum. My question:

Since I have to pay registration twice.. once from the initial lease, then again when I do the buyout, I'm considering waiting until month 11 to execute.

The math: my rent charge is 117/mo. If I finance for 72 mos the monthly interest the first 11 months averages 116/mo.

The question is: if I am going to have to renew registration after 12 months any way, wouldn't it make sense to do the buyout near that point? Or am I missing some risk that I'm just not seeing?

TIA

Dan
 
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Hi! I just leased a 21 GT2 AWD with the intent of buying it immediately per this forum. My question:

Since I have to pay registration twice.. once from the initial lease, then again when I do the buyout, I'm considering waiting until month 11 to execute.

The math: my rent charge is 117/mo. If I finance for 72 mos the monthly interest the first 11 months averages 116/mo.

The question is: if I am going to have to renew registration after 12 months any way, wouldn't it make sense to do the buyout near that point? Or am I missing some risk that I'm just not seeing?

TIA

Dan
How much is registration? Ten more months of lease rent is $1,170. I doubt that registration x 2 comes anywhere near that. But even if it does, why pay lease rent on top of registration x 2? Buyout is most valuable the earlier the better.
 
How much is registration? Ten more months of lease rent is $1,170. I doubt that registration x 2 comes anywhere near that. But even if it does, why pay lease rent on top of registration x 2? Buyout is most valuable the earlier the better.
Probably in the 700-800 range.. but wouldn't the finance charge (interest) on the loan offset the $1,170? It would be $1160 over that same period of time... or am I missing something?

Thanks!
 
Probably in the 700-800 range.. but wouldn't the finance charge (interest) on the loan offset the $1,170? It would be $1160 over that same period of time... or am I missing something?

Thanks!
Ah hah, yes, you bring up the often not compared difference between lease completion and buyout with a loan. Unless the loan to do the buyout is at a considerably lower interest rate than the lease rent amount, it really doesn't make sense to do the buyout at all. I always think of cash to do the buyout, because that is what we did. The buyout is only about one thing: getting the largest amount off MSRP by taking Kia's largest incentive; then getting the car owned outright as soon as possible. Anything that takes a loan or takes longer, is just diminished returns.
 
hmmmm got a weird question

so i looked at my lease buyout amount originally it was 21,885 like 1-2 months ago

finally have the funds to finish it off and now its 22,205?

does it go up every month?
 
hmmmm got a weird question

so i looked at my lease buyout amount originally it was 21,885 like 1-2 months ago

finally have the funds to finish it off and now its 22,205?

does it go up every month?

don’t know.

but doing the buyout part... you do not need to payoff in full. Can get a traditional car loan through a bank or a credit union
 
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Hello again, so as you know I went with the 2021 GT2 lease for 24 mon and 12k/year. Today I received my paperwork from KMF and it got me thinking again on when I should plan to buyout the lease. I was searching and searching on here and I guess I'm not plugging in the exact terminology because I cant seem to find the threads I was reading last time about the buyout strategy. I also began to worry about my taxes on my contract because I feel like the total amount was included and now i wonder if i got shafted because in other readings maybe they should have only taxed me on the lease payment and not the total agreement price? Just when I thought I finally understood all this new jargon I'm doubting the numbers I agreed to.
 
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Just be aware that your credit is going be hit twice by Kia. One for dealership and one for Kia finance.
Yep, that's some BS. makes absolutely no sense. My credit score went down by 31 points!! Now when I buy out the lease shortly there will be another hard inquiry. That's a sh_tty move on KMF part. They most definitely can use the dealerships pull especially since its been less than a month since it was originally was pulled. RRRggg.
 
If it was within 45 days the multiple hard pulls should not have compounded the hit to your credit report Will Multiple Credit Inquiries Hurt My Credit Score?

That said you also took out more debt and now have an additional non-trivial payment on your debt/income ratio, the hard pulls alone was unlikely to take 31 points.
 
hmmmm got a weird question

so i looked at my lease buyout amount originally it was 21,885 like 1-2 months ago

finally have the funds to finish it off and now its 22,205?

does it go up every month?
Say what? How could that be? A payoff would I presume because of daily interest but not the actual loan amount right?
 
If it was within 45 days the multiple hard pulls should not have compounded the hit to your credit report Will Multiple Credit Inquiries Hurt My Credit Score?

That said you also took out more debt and now have an additional non-trivial payment on your debt/income ratio, the hard pulls alone was unlikely to take 31 points.
That's a great point, wasn't figuring on the additional debt to income ratio. I appreciate the clarification.
 
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